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Elodin
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posted February 14, 2012 12:55 AM |
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Quote: @Elodin
Quote: When posting in the thread that is about contraception let's please stick to the topic and not derail the thread. Thank you.
Elodin, who voted you moderator?
Here's an idea: leave the moderating to the actual moderators. And if anyone on this forum is guilty of provocation, it's you, so stop accusing others of throwing stones when you've got an effing ballista raining hellfire down upon everyone and everything around CONSTANTLY. I let the perpetual little jabs at atheists slide, but if you really want me to get tough and dirty and start handing out penalties every time I think someone's religion has been insulted, I can make your flood protect rise in a hurry.
Dig?
Of course I was not trying to moderate, merely making a request. You will note I used the word "let's" meaning let us (a word that includes me) stick to the topic of the particular thread and not derail it. I had already started that thread because it was off topic in another thread and I did not want to be accused of being off topic in my response to the inaccurate statements made about Catholicism and its official teaching on contraception. So when JJ made personal comments about me in the thread rather than responding to him there I responded in the feedback thread.
I have no problems with the SAME standards being applied to one and all. If atheists call Jesus a fairy tale (which you yourself did recently), religions superstitions or delusions, or other negative comments about religions/religious people, people should be free to make similar comments about atheism. There can be no actual debates if one side of the debate is restrained in what they are allowed to post and the other side can freely post whatever they want.
I disagree that I provoke anyone. I do use similar language to my opponents in debates.
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Corribus
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posted February 14, 2012 03:06 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 17:21, 14 Feb 2012.
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You can disagree all you want, but it's my opinion that counts here, isn't it? You get a level playing field and then some.
Now, unless you have some actual feedback, I'll ask you to refrain from posting in this thread.
Grazie.
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Aculias
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posted February 14, 2012 04:10 PM |
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Ya just got PWNED Elodin HAHA.
I agree with Coribus 100%!
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mvassilev
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posted May 20, 2012 04:13 AM |
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I'm a bit tired of my views being dismissed as "poetry".
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted May 20, 2012 01:55 PM |
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I agree, they're far too cynical to be poetic.
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Corribus
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posted May 21, 2012 05:29 AM |
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Well what, you want me to penalize him for calling your views poetry? I've already let diablo slide for far more than that. He doesn't seem to get it through his skull that we're supposed to treat each other wish respect here. My guess another warning isn't going to change that. Some people are just born to be without manners.
*shrug*
Besides, I'm not sure how calling someone's views "poetry" is supposed to be an insult. Given that poetry is supposed to be beautiful and with deep, carefully constructed meaning, I'd take it as a compliment.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted May 21, 2012 11:51 AM |
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I believe Mvass is far more concerned with his posts and point being 'dismissed' rather than what word was used/implied.
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Corribus
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posted May 21, 2012 03:11 PM |
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Well if you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later. -Mitch Hedberg
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Adrius
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posted May 21, 2012 03:38 PM |
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The OSM is sucking the compassion out of Corribus ^^
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Corribus
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posted May 21, 2012 05:29 PM |
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This place would suck the compassion out of Mother Teresa.
<peck, peck, peck>
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted May 21, 2012 07:35 PM |
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True, but to be fair, you didn't have much to start with .
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Corribus
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posted May 21, 2012 08:58 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 21:11, 21 May 2012.
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I have a lot of compassion for all kinds of people. I'm generally a loving, good natured individual.
Now get the snow out of my feedback thread unless you've got something constructive to add.
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mvassilev
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posted May 21, 2012 09:59 PM |
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Fair enough. Next time someone refers to my views as "poetry" (in the negative sense), I'll ignore their posts entirely. Let it be known.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 21, 2012 10:28 PM |
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Is that a promise or poetry?
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted May 21, 2012 10:32 PM |
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Both; now make yourself scarce, lest you invoke the master's whip.
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Mytical
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posted May 25, 2012 10:10 PM |
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It not only sucks the compassion out of a person, but any positive emotion. It is an abyss..and you know what they say..stare at the Abyss long enough, and it stares back at you.
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Corribus
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posted May 25, 2012 10:23 PM |
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Mytical has inspired me to change my custom status.
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Zenofex
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posted June 01, 2012 04:32 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 16:33, 01 Jun 2012.
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All right, I actually want to know why my post was deleted and that of Elodin wasn't? In my opinion both are off-topic, why the selectivity?
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Corribus
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posted June 01, 2012 05:03 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 17:05, 01 Jun 2012.
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Very well.
The topic of the Nanny State thread is the perception that government intrudes into citizens' lives.
Elodin's post is on topic:
Quote: I don't understand why anyone who has a choice lives in a liberal state. I just don't get it. Do such people just NEED others to run their lives?
It's not really my place to define exactly what Elodin meant, but I think it's pretty clear that Elodin was saying he doesn't understand why people who have a choice would want to live in a US state that is run by democrats, who he perceives (rightly or wrongly) tend to pass unnecessarily laws which intrude on a person's right to live the way they want to live. He asks whether people who do choose to live in such US states feel the need to have laws passed that govern how they act in their daily lives.
It is pretty clear this is on topic, and it's certainly not spam.
Your post (and I'm paraphrasing here because I didn't copy it before I deleted it) was something like this:
Quote: Everyone would move to Iran if you weren't about to declare war on it.
Assuming that "you" refers to the US and not to Elodin as an individual, your post:
(1) Has little if anything to do with government laws that intrude upon our daily lives.
(2) Is a directed jab at the US or US foreign policy, which is as irrelevant as it is irreverent.
You may criticize the foreign policy of the US or other nations (respectfully) in threads dedicated to such a topic. However I would be neglectful of my duties to allow people to derail threads whenever they see opportunities to make snarky comments about countries, societies or policies they don't care for. Such activities go against the rules I laid out quite some time ago about responsible posting in the OSM, the fourth of which I will repost here for your convenience:
Quote: 4. Trolling. Are you posting off-topic one-liners with the obvious intent to derail discussion? That won’t be tolerated. Let me be clear – intent is the key word here. This is supposed to be a fun place and some spamming, throwing of good natured barbs, sarcasm and jokes are tolerable and actually desirable. But if you’re consistently trying to be a jerk and don’t contribute anything else… well, now you know what will happen.
As to why I deleted the post: originally I chose to leave it there and just kindly remind you to please stay on topic in the future. You are not a habitual troll by any means and as I said I'm not going to delete or forbid every bit of sarcasm or off-topic posting that appears. I also do not believe you were intentially trying to kill the thread. That said, you elected to make a fuss over my reminder, which required an additional explanation by another moderator about why your post was off topic, and even then you wouldn't leave it alone. So what we ended up with was eight or nine posts which had nothing to do with the topic at hand.
This is the very definition of derailing a thread, and so I elected to delete everything, including the original, off-topic post.
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Zenofex
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posted June 01, 2012 05:25 PM |
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OK, but that is not my point. Elodin's post may be slightly related to the topic but it completely lacks any constructive content and is his usual trolling about all things "liberal" and "leftist" while the topic is hardly about the liberalism or the political left in general. If you think otherwise, I'd like to read your arguments about it. If you don't, please explain why his trolling is more worthy of remaining in the topic than my alleged trolling - which was supposed to just ridicule his post and had nothing to do with the US foreign policy.
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