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T2_2112
Supreme Hero
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posted September 05, 2007 01:16 AM |
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3DO drop Forge , and replace with Conflux . May be they have some reason
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dmad
Known Hero
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posted September 05, 2007 01:19 AM |
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omg, it's one of the artists who create the HoMM III Graphics... 
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted September 05, 2007 05:23 PM |
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Do you think you are still going to use this ? (i have found something like this in the official site of the Forge):
Commander
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Ayreon
Famous Hero
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posted September 06, 2007 05:57 PM |
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i don't think so, i think they'd use a more futuristic commander...
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Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
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posted September 06, 2007 07:36 PM |
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I think they will use this one or a newer version of this
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted September 07, 2007 11:51 AM |
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Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
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posted September 07, 2007 12:11 PM |
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Level 1: Grunt and Foot Soldier - Goblis with guns - ranged attacker. Will be as strong as any other level 1 creature.
Level 2: Cyber-Dead and Cyber-Zombies - Zombies with rotating chainsaws for hands.
Level 3: Pyros and Pyromaniacs - Humanoids armed with backpack flamethrowers.
Level 4: Stinger and Bruiser - Ogre with a rocket launcher - ranged attacker. Damage as strong as any other level 4 shooter would do.
Level 5: Jump Soldier and Jump Trooper - Flying Minotaur with a jet pack and a razor claws for hand-to-hand attack.
Level 6: Tank and Heavy Tank - Half-mechanical-cyber-Naga-tank, hand-to-hand only.
Level 7: Juggernaut and Dreadnought - Purelymechanical creatures with some serious firepower, hand-to-hand.
And commander
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idiotpariah
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 07, 2007 12:49 PM |
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Thanks for the pictures. Not had an update from Zielvitz in a long long time, he still kicking?
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Ayreon
Famous Hero
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posted September 07, 2007 04:50 PM |
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or sleeping... haven't seen the last of him yet i hope
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Zielevitz
Promising
Famous Hero
Resistance is futile!
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posted September 08, 2007 03:06 PM |
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The 'commander' creature is not really commander but a bruiser. Stinger has not been shown yet. Naga-tank is first draw of this creature. There is a new version of it 
The 7th level creatures will be most propably replaced by others. Current ones just don't fit.
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted September 24, 2007 01:43 PM |
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I put the things i know about the Forge:
STORY OF THE FORGE
The story behind the Forge closely follows the conclusion to Might and Magic VII, more in particularly the ending to those heroes who succeeded on the Path of Darkness. Archibald's former advisors regroup, discovering a mysterious and powerful ancient artifact known only as the Heavenly Forge. Armed with this power, the advisors can create an entirely new base of operations, known as the Forge, a futuristic wonder world of cogs, wheels, and factories capable of creating fierce robot warriors that wield powerful hi-tech weaponry. Archibald's advisors pitch their camp at their new base of operations and begin to build. Their object is nothing less than the conquest of Erathia.
A little more insight on how powerful this mighty creation is (was), is the history behind the weaponry which was manufactured in Forge factories. As you can see, Might and Magic VII opened up a lot of references to the Heavenly Forges. Examples of these weapons are below:
Sublime Spear - A smithy symbol and date stamp indicate this spear was made in the magical forges of Governor Padish 12 years before the Silence.
Golden Chain Mail - A very rare suit of armor turned out by the Heavenly Forges of Governor Padish before the Silence. The armor was originally worn strictly by the Governor's highest military officers as a badge of office. It is not just for show; this chain mail is lighter, stronger, and more supple than any other chain in the world.
Governor's Armor - Owned by Colonial Governor Padish at the Time of Silence, this fantastic armor has resurfaced in many of the great treasure hoards throughout history. Like most creations turned out by the Heavenly Forge, it is nearly indestructible, and its like can no longer be made by any forge in the land.
Majestic Shield - The dark, golden color of these shields is actually a flaw. About 50 of these sheidls were turned out by the Heavenly Forge as it began to fail. Although imperfect they are second only to shields built by the Forge in its prime.
Believe me when I say this, that all of these weapons and armor are state of the art as well as being beautifully manufactured. This is also straight evidence that the Forge is not just about creating cybornetic monstrosities, that is Archibald's dream.
So why was this dreamed creation of power pulled from the Might and Magic universe? Proceed onto the Fate of the Forge for more info.
FATE OF THE FORGE
Not to sound bias, but the typical Heroes fan aware of the implement of the Forge, was totally against the idea. The Forge represented a clash of fantasy and science fiction. Something the Might and Magic universe has had a long time. It is practically tradition. Heroes of Might and Magic lacked on the sci-fi portion of this universe, which was one of the main reasons NWC considered adding this town into the series.
As I stated before, the typical majority of heroes fans had opposed the Forge, were outraged with it, and some even took drastic action. Early reviews of Armageddon's Blade featured only artwork of the units and a few sketches of Forge buildings. Despite having no screen shots of anything sci-fi at this particular moment, fans around the world began posting their honest thoughts at the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Board. Most of which desperately begged NWC to reconsider their actions, and the immediate removal of the Forge. Others threatened that they would boycott the game if the Forge were implemented, and still others found some of the sketchs so obscene that they argued that the Forge was 'untasteful' (see the Naga tank).
Only weeks after the sketches and artwork were released by Gamespot, an article by Michael Mullen was spotted on the very site that had first distributed the images (see Links for the full story.). Mullen had stated that through sources at 3do, NWC, and Greg Fulton, that the Forge was basically history. Removed due to the uprising against the Forge.
The following week, Greg Fulton posted a FAQ on the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Board. The FAQ pertained to questions Greg asked himself with completely honest answers. In the post itself, Greg basically explained why the Forge was removed and where NWC was going with Armageddon's Blade. He let us know about the e-mails he had received from many fans. He also made note that some had concerns implied politely, while others reacted foolishly; some with death threats. We have to understand how much Greg and his team sacrificed in the removal of the Forge. Besides losing en entire town, heroes, units, a story, and other such of that nature, the team had lost a lot of time and work which is now considered 'unnecessary.'
I do admit that the Forge could have been legendary if given the chance to see the light of day. Will we ever know for sure? Looking at these past events, I doubt we will see the Forge or any science fiction for that matter in the Heroes series for awhile, if not ever.
WHAT IS THE FORGE
FORGE is a futuristic, high-tech town.
Might hero is Cyborg and Magic Hero is Technician.
Town:
Buildings:
Mage Guild:
Building Zombies:
Market:
Castle:
Town hall:
Building of the Graal:
These are the creatures ?:
FORGE creatures:
Level 1: Grunt and Foot Soldier - Goblis with guns - ranged attacker. Will be as strong as any other level 1 creature
Level 2: Cyber-Dead and Cyber-Zombies - Zombies with rotating chainsaws for hands.
Level 3: Pyros and Pyromaniacs - Humanoids armed with backpack flamethrowers.
Level 4: Stinger and Bruiser - Ogre with a rocket launcher - ranged attacker. Damage as strong as any other level 4 shooter would do.
Level 5: Jump Soldier and Jump Trooper - Flying Minotaur with a jet pack and a razor claws for hand-to-hand attack.
Level 6: Tank and Heavy Tank - Half-mechanical-cyber-Naga-tank, hand-to-hand only.
Level 7: Juggernaut and Dreadnought - Purely mechanical creatures with some serious firepower, hand-to-hand.
This creature is going to be replaced according to Zielevitz.
FORGE creatures were planned to be stronger compared to other towns, but more expensive and perhaps lower in population. Also, given that the Forge was an evil alignment town, it would unbalance the game: 4 evil towns, 3 good and 2 neutral.
When it was announced that the Forge was pulled out of the game to be replaced with an elemental town, one of the 3DO editors posted the following:
WHY DID YOU PULL THE FORGE?
- Reason One: As much as I thought the actions of many fans showed a lack of vision and an inherent distrust for a company who have given them hundreds of hours of quality gameplay, I still didn't want to fight our fans.
- Reason Two: There wasn't enough pro-Forge activity.
HOW FAR ALONG WAS THE FORGE TOWN?
A first draft of the town screen was finished and awaiting revision. We also had a first draft of each creature and its upgrade and were proceeding with revisions. All but one map for the campaign was finished.
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Asheron
Famous Hero
Ancient
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posted September 24, 2007 01:54 PM |
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So does this means they have goblins in line-up or it just looks like goblin? Is this town meant to look like mix of other towns? (this is a question with no sarcasm in it,just wondering )
btw that Naga has a gun why is it melee?
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted September 24, 2007 01:58 PM |
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The members of the WOG site still don't reply 
You are sure you cannot update this site ?:
Wog
There are even links that do not work.
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idiotpariah
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 25, 2007 04:14 AM |
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@Magister,
Why not try asking on the yahoo wog usergroup run by Fnord (Timothy Pulver) he is a member of the original team (and certainly the most active).
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Ayreon
Famous Hero
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posted September 25, 2007 11:07 AM |
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Edited by Ayreon at 16:37, 25 Sep 2007.
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btw that Naga has a gun why is it melee?
maybe a close range paintball-gun
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idiotpariah
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 25, 2007 12:12 PM |
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Magister, you have your prompt reply
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Magister180888
Known Hero
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posted September 25, 2007 12:58 PM |
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I have sent to:
h3nl , liquidsky , treupp , cool (his e-mail doesn't work), d.averbeck , onurb666
I have just sent something to Fnord.
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DKnight
Adventuring Hero
in Bloodhunting session
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posted September 25, 2007 11:45 PM |
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Why r u going to replace juggernauts they're nice...
and there is only one flying creature...
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Alustor
Famous Hero
ooo da :)
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posted September 26, 2007 05:50 PM |
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Quote:
The members of the WOG site still don't reply
You are sure you cannot update this site ?:
Wog
There are even links that do not work.
this is the new wog site http://wog.celestialheavens.com/
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DKnight
Adventuring Hero
in Bloodhunting session
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posted September 27, 2007 01:54 PM |
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The site is closed somehow only about and downloads section...
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