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Jebus
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posted September 02, 2005 05:41 PM |
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Pandora,
(Im sure you knew I'd have something else to say  )
a member who choses to spam by either flooding a thread or forum with multiple posts in a short time or creating endless threads can do so with 90sec flood anyways... we've seen it. (so I don't really buy into the flood for "no spam" arguments that I've heard this far)
And as much as I can understand your point that it is there to reduce spam, I've never said we need to get rid of flood (as Ive mentioned before).
Im just find it ironic that if you're penalized, your flood goes up but when you do well, it doesn't come down (until of course your 8th star). Having said that, 8 stars can seem like a huge obstacle to obtain... but after 3 stars, having a flood at 60 sec would at least be a recognizable reward for the small victories I've had.
Now you've also mentioned that getting rid of flood was a motivation for you to "post quality" and that if I keep up with posting humour, I'd eventually be rewarded.
After the multiple arguments in regards to the lack of appreciation humour gets around here, Im doubtfull that that will change (even if I DO kiss up to RSF! ).
Lastly, after 1 year, I've received 3 stars for the EXACT type of post or behaviour that I was against:
posting whinny, emmotional, Im a victim threads or
complainning that a member got a qp when I felt I should have gotten one too!!
Is this the type of behaviour we want to encourage??
We shouldn't need merit badges to demonstrate that we are responsible posters!! and if we get out of line, the system is there to reprimand us.
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Lord_Woock
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posted September 02, 2005 07:35 PM |
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Actually, humour does earn QPs. Look up Oldtimer and Bort for fine examples.
It's just a tough route, with the above people's igenuity to compete with 
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Jebus
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posted September 02, 2005 07:45 PM |
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Actually, humour does earn QPs. Look up Oldtimer and Bort for fine examples.
It's just a tough route, with the above people's igenuity to compete with
I think I might have to just to understand what's considered humourous around here!
(all the people that think IM funny aren't mods! 
well except Conan... but we all know what friends giving friends QP's amounts to! )
BUT FOLKS!!!???
THE TOPIC IS FLOOD!!!
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pandora
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posted September 02, 2005 08:46 PM |
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a member who choses to spam by either flooding a thread or forum with multiple posts in a short time or creating endless threads can do so with 90sec flood anyways... we've seen it.
I agree, anyone with the intent of harming the forums can certainly do this. But how many people who may have felt just a rush of silliness were stopped by flood? I am not talking about the serious offenders - those people exist and we have to deal with them as they come, but I'm referring to average Joe poster.
Its similar to, for example, gun laws. Sure, someone with murderous intent can find a means to gain a firearm and go kill someone else. However the laws are not as such that just on a whim, anyone can simply walk into a store and pick up a gun - so even though the laws are not going to eliminate violent crime with firearms, they will certainly slow it down, act as a deterrant and at least stop some of the crimes that might have been committed in a moment of clouded judgement.
With regard to the QP system, you will notice that the face of the modsquad has changed recently. News mods have been added which will a) result in more people to award QP and b) more time for existing mods to go over posts and evaluate for QP. So lets just see how it goes
And yes Jester, I think you're funny - even if in a juvenile, typical male goofball kinda way hehe Just find a way to get that funny out of the Wastelands, without spamming the other forums... Quite the task, eh? Are you up to it?
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Jebus
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posted September 02, 2005 09:04 PM |
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Its similar to, for example, gun laws. Sure, someone with murderous intent can find a means to gain a firearm and go kill someone else. However the laws are not as such that just on a whim, anyone can simply walk into a store and pick up a gun - so even though the laws are not going to eliminate violent crime with firearms, they will certainly slow it down, act as a deterrant and at least stop some of the crimes that might have been committed in a moment of clouded judgement.
And yes Jester, I think you're funny - even if in a juvenile, typical male goofball kinda way hehe Just find a way to get that funny out of the Wastelands, without spamming the other forums... Quite the task, eh? Are you up to it?
And in the states all you'd have to do is go to your local branch and open an account and get a free riffle!
(but are we ACTUALLY comparring spamming to gun control?? and many would argue the gun registration laws as prevention but we won't here)
Unfortunetely for me, my humour is sporatic and spontaneous... Im just gonna post my best material in a
"Jebus journal" (sorry for the europeens that that term hold different meaning!  )
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pandora
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posted September 02, 2005 09:12 PM |
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No, I was just trying to illustrate my thinking. And as you should know by now, I'm in Canada... we don't even get a toaster when we open a bank account, they can harm us if we stick a fork in em, or drop them in our bathtubs...But believe me, you don't want to start me talking about what I really think of guns and gun laws
You know that I agree with you on several levels when it comes to QP's. The problem lies in finding the right balance.
To me the revival of the QP system as a very active part of HC would be a great thing, so long as it reflects a genuine raise in quality
I know it seems like nothing gets done and mods don't care.. but you'd be surprised at how much we actually do discuss, I'm optimistic that things will get better in the future
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2XtremeToTake
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posted September 02, 2005 09:48 PM |
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The problem is that so many things have already been done here, that if something else comes up like it, it is either attacked as a Ripoff of another thread, or ignored and the old original thread revived.
People like Oldtimer, Bort, and everyone else with 4 or 5 stars have taken all the ideas so no one can use them. It might sound harsh but thats the truth, they might not have done it knowing that, but theres only so many ideas people can have.
Take my Caption-Ized thread, I figured it was a QP-worthy game, but then Pandora said it was a copy of a thread PrivateHudson made once, which I still haven't seen yet.
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Jebus
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posted September 02, 2005 10:13 PM |
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I know it seems like nothing gets done and mods don't care.. but you'd be surprised at how much we actually do discuss, I'm optimistic that things will get better in the future
you're starting to sound like Val with his "here we go another admin bashing" thread!
I've never felt that the mods DONT do anything...
But the standard of the top 2% gets a QP doesn't give you guys much room to work with!
2X makes a good point...
it's tough to find something that has NEVER been done in the last what, 7 years?? but we need to stop looking at qp's for threads, and start looking at posts instead.
(I remember suggesting that QP's should go to the post and not to the poster... then maybe after you have like 15 or 20 good posts, you could get rid of your flood.)
I think the -10 seconds per qp would be a reasonable adjustment.
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pandora
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posted September 02, 2005 10:18 PM |
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Just bumped Private Hudson's Caption Contest thread for you 2extreme
Btw I wasn't implying that you did anything wrong by making the thread, I just said you could have continued Private Hudson's game, that's all.
I don't know how it can be said really that all the ideas are taken. I mean, that could apply to games and such yes - but as for just being creative I dunno... I find it hard to imagine that someone else had a great idea about a post claiming that elves fill their underpants with butterscotch only to find that.. DAMN! it's been done
The whole reason that those posts were so much fun is because they were just silly ideas that popped into someone's head that they thought they'd put down in text for our enjoyment, its not like there's any particular formula that needs to be followed.
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2XtremeToTake
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posted September 02, 2005 10:51 PM |
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Also, people here have become so frightened about spam, that half the great threads here (Elves/butterscotch, Only Naked girls) that if they were to be done today they would be immediatly bashed and buried in the VW.
If you notice alot of QP's given to people like Bort would now be considered spam if something like that was to be brought up.
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Jebus
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posted September 02, 2005 11:26 PM |
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I find it hard to imagine that someone else had a great idea about a post claiming that elves fill their underpants with butterscotch only to find that.. DAMN! it's been done
The whole reason that those posts were so much fun is because they were just silly ideas that popped into someone's head that they thought they'd put down in text for our enjoyment, its not like there's any particular formula that needs to be followed.
yeah but keep in mind not everyone enjoys that type of humour... sure silly can be fun, but we're full of silly in the wastelands (well along with the rest of the baggage).
I doubt very much you'll ever find me post an "midget mudwrestling against purple fairies" thread anytime soon...
maybe my next post will me "the dark side of dairy-Jebus's journals of lactose intolerance" or something...
but then again, do members really want that? 
(actually im sure with the amount of freaks here...)
I guess I just need to nominate members with my sense of humour for modship and start infiltrating the squad!
(wasn't this thread about floodP?)
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pandora
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posted September 03, 2005 12:07 AM |
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Also, people here have become so frightened about spam, that half the great threads here (Elves/butterscotch, Only Naked girls) that if they were to be done today they would be immediatly bashed and buried in the VW.
If you notice alot of QP's given to people like Bort would now be considered spam if something like that was to be brought up.
I agree with you completely on that, in fact I tried to bring it up before but the message was lost... still thinking on how to deal with that
I would actually love a return to that type of "spam", the problem is how to regulate it and keep it fun for everyone. Its nearly impossible to explain what I mean, and by being unable to define it... well it becomes a whole big mess, now doesn't it?
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2XtremeToTake
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posted September 03, 2005 04:42 AM |
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How about my Jebus/Lactose thead, it is good spam right? right? right!?
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Jebus
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TheJester akaJeebs akaJebfoo
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posted September 03, 2005 05:54 AM |
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How about my Jebus/Lactose thead, it is good spam right? right? right!?
yeah....(clears throat)
uh ... it was great.
(but one should never mock something they don't understand..)
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