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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted March 15, 2006 09:02 PM |
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Please note that the effects of attack and defence are two times stronger than in HoMM3, and a wizard hero tends to go towards knowledge a wee bit more than a warlock.
I believe that a barbarian would make a good main hero for a wizard town, or any other for that matter.
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 16, 2006 04:51 AM |
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anyway evil warrior is right. ghosts own both titans and dragons for free anyway. and titans. and phoenixes. etc...
i remember i played pirate utopia and there was this barrow mound that let you recruit ghosts. it was guarded by a crapload of ghosts. so i sent in my army and dragons and claimed it as my own. sure i lost a crapload of my own dragons, but i got a handful of ghosts in the process, making it MORE than worth it. so the first thing i did was fight a horde of goblins. i had paralyze and mass slow at my disposal and let my ghosts do all the work.
then i fought halflings. and archers. whenever i fought enemy heroes i went straight for their level 1 unit. pretty soon i had a stack of 1k ghosts in under a week. this number grew exponentially each battle....
in other words, ghosts broke the game, and thankfully they removed it from heroes forever.
but this whole phoenix is the best intrigues me.
phoenix only have 100 hp in heroes 2 if i remember correctly, and are only immune to elemental spells. while i agree going first is invaluable, what exactly are you going to do?
the only really valuable spell imo is mass haste. sorc is good because it revolves around getting first strike. with ultra fast phoenix, and very fast druids and grand elves, you can put a huge dent in the enemy army before they have a chance to react. so mass haste would let you get three attacks in before they could react. however, if you are going against enemy titans or dragons, this won't be terribly helpful. if you fly your phoenix over, they will get DECIMATED. you could target weaker units, but either way, once you fly the phoenix over, all their army units will swarm the phoenix and basically eliminate them after the first round.
a chain lightning would be helpful, but only if it was a week 2 or week 3 battle and the armies are still small and it could turn the tide of battle. otherwise it would be a waste.
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 16, 2006 08:53 AM |
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Titans in Heroes 2 still are the best unit.
GO THE TITANS!!!
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 16, 2006 04:32 PM |
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We already know, william, we already know.
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As for me, I like sorceress, becuase the 2 power is quite much for the beginning and its nice to actually be able to cast lightning every turn with sorceress huge knowledge. Warlock can have lightning for 2000 dmg, but he is going to cast it less times than a smart sorceress.
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Meph
Adventuring Hero
Rampaging Rampart
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posted March 17, 2006 12:17 AM |
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Few weeks of building Titans vs. few weeks of accumulating ghosts. Shall we see who wins?
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Some get a sexchange.
Mephala got a racechange
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 17, 2006 01:19 AM |
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I would still beat you with my Titans
Want a match tonight 17 march
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 17, 2006 09:45 PM |
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the problem with ghosts is, very few maps actually have the ghost dwelling. so unless you can get it early on, they aren't going to come into play. now if you want to make a map where i start out with a nearby mound, then its over.
lets see, titans which grow 3 a week, or ghosts which if played right, can grow exponentially daily. hmmm.....
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 17, 2006 10:09 PM |
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William, you are asking for bashing with texts like that.
It is just that other players might think that you are a bit chicky, or even cocky with confident texts like "I can beat you".
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In one month and a pocket full of cash you would have 12 titans at most. After 1 week and a bit of luck you would have 200 ghosts. Your titans seem to be puny against about 1000 ghosts in one month.
Well, if you still don't believe, prepare a map with barrow mound close to one town. We'll see. We'll see.
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I still think that phoenixes r da bomb! Unless you play against warlock...
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 17, 2006 10:26 PM |
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Phonixes are the bomb Supersonic? I have my doubts about that! Yes thet are fast, cheap, can hurt more then one creature at a time with fire breath and have a very good growth rate, but still they lack a lot in skill and damdage. Their stats are lower then of some of the other 7th level creatures, and they have only 100 HP. Their low HP and relatively low skills make them easy targets for other creatures, not only 6th or 7th level ones, but also for stacks of sturdy lower level creatures. I know from experience, that a weeks growth of master swordsman can beat a phoenix. You will also need plenty of mercury for the Phoenixes you know. When rating 7th level creatures, the Rank is like this:
1)Titan \ Black Dragon
(let it stay a draw, we don't have to start the "who's better" arguement again).
2)Bone Dragon.
3)Phoenix.
4)Paladin (crusader)
5)Cyclops.
And lets not forget the best of the best, the one that realy kiks everybodies butt!
(so good that it throws the game out of balance thus it rarely appears on maps). THE ALL MIGHTY GHOST
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 18, 2006 12:51 AM |
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Ghosts are not one of the most strongest units u know, Titans are lev6 in Heroes 2, Ghosts are not.
Titans will destroy anything that gets in there way.
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 18, 2006 01:56 AM |
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do you even know what the ghost special ability is?
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 18, 2006 01:59 AM |
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Yes I do know what it is.
whatever units they kill become ghosts.
I still think that they are useless and thats MY OPINION.
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 18, 2006 03:37 PM |
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Useless?! I can't say that a unit that has the ability to feed on the enemy's dead is useless. Yes, the ghost may not have the best stats of it's level, but their ability certainly compensates for that. The ghosts are not level 6, but they are strong in their own way
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 18, 2006 07:23 PM |
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I think William just needs attention. We know william, you are the best player. You and your titans beat everyone. Not even a full warlock army can beat you. Happy?
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Ghost rock, but, as you all said, it is hard to achieve them. BTW, is it possible that wandering ghosts join you?
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 19, 2006 01:20 AM |
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Why do u post comments like that for, do u all hate me or something.
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angelito
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
proud father of a princess
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posted March 19, 2006 01:34 AM |
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There is no need to comment every post which is against the own opinion. Everyone has his own opinion, and thatīs ok like this. If u donīt share the opinion of someone, just donīt reply.
This is ment for all guys, who think they should "judge" other newcomers posts.
Think about it, and let all guys tell us their story.
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Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 19, 2006 03:25 AM |
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Thanks Angelito for that. I appreciate that.
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 19, 2006 03:05 PM |
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Yo William, no offense O.K? Angelito is right, you don't judge a person, you judge his actions. And don't think that somebody is judging you because of your opinion, or hates you! nobody here hates anyone cause' if were to hate somebody we wouldn't be here at HC!
And as for you Supersonic, please try being more polite, as you may hurt someones feelings with what you say, I think you hurt williams feelings by being a bit to harsh with him. Even If you are right, sometimes it is better not to show your disscontent and be nicer. You shouldn't insult a member just because he ha a different opinion than you. Just because William thinks that his Titans are invincible is not a reason to smack him.
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 19, 2006 06:47 PM |
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OK. No offense. And people ask me why i think this is the funniest community ever...
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If you start with upg. cloud castle, in one month you'll get 12 titans. If in week 2 you get some ghosts, by the end of the month you will have 300. Let's do calculations.
No attack/defence/spells.
The average damage of ghosts is 5, the average damage of titans is 25. Titans start and shoot ghosts. 300 dmg + 80% is 540 = 27 ghosts dead, 273 alive. Ghosts fly and smack titans for 1365 - 35% = 887. 2 titans are dead, one is battered, and there are two more ghosts. Titans retaliate for 250 + 80% = 450 dmg. 253 ghosts left. Titans attack for 450, 23 ghosts perish. Ghosts retaliate for 747 dmg, which kills 3 titans that join ghosts. Follow me? 7 titans, 233 ghosts. Ghosts attack for 757 dmg (because there are three more), that kills 2 titans, 5 alive, those 2 titans join ghosts. Titans retaliate for 225 dmg and then attack for 225, 450 in total, which kills 22 ghosts. 213 ghosts retaliate for 692 dmg, which kills 3 titans. 216 ghosts attack for 702 dmg, which kills the remaining titans. Sorry, ghosts RULE! Titans suck.
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 19, 2006 09:21 PM |
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First of all, Supersonic, keep the "no offense" attitude for as long as you can, as it will only do us all good.
Secondly, I don't think Titans suck. Yes, when comparing that way ghosts are the strongest creatures, no arguement here. They can defeat any creature because of their ability. But as we all know, not many maps have them, it is almost impossible to get wondering ghosts to join you (even with expert diplomacy) and the number of maps with ghost dwellings is even smaller. So if you see ghosts, take'em as fast as you can, don't be cheap, just take'em!
By the way, if any of you are still making maps for HOMM II, can you please make one that has borrow mounds?
Maybe a good map like "journy through the underworld" or something of that style. I have the editor and the game, but I do not know a thing about map scripting and event making, so I can't really make a good one (If I could I would have posted it a long time ago...).
If you also agree with me, maybe we can post a request on the map heaven guild forum...
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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