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Fofa
Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
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posted March 23, 2006 11:33 PM |
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That is what leveling up your Sorceress and giving her good artifacts is for. 
I like all of the Sorceress troops (except the Dwarf/Battle Dwarf) best actually. I've always liked fast towns more than other kinds of towns. That and kicking someone's butt to whoever insulted them as 'girly town' is a good feeling. 
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 24, 2006 10:18 AM |
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man, just chill out, listen to what people are saying, and keep an open mind. but seriously, if you really are 15, you really need to learn how to discuss stuff on an internet forum in a mature way and not get upset over stuff like this. i think everyone is looking forward to doing a ghosts vs titan showdown.
whoever is making the map, make sure not to give the ghosts too many advantages (such as tons of peasants nearby) or else it will just be slaughter....
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 24, 2006 10:21 AM |
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Ok i'm calm.
So what you are saying is that I shouldnt have too many low level units, because they will be turned into ghosts.
I should stick to my Titans or other lev6 units that I have.
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted March 24, 2006 04:41 PM |
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What I really liked in Heroes II were the crusaders. The dudes looked cool in the golden armour, and they could do some damage. Definetly not the best unit, but I liked em anyhow. For best unit, black dragon definetly gets my vote
Crusaders had a potential of being the most damaging unit in the game. 10-20 base damage, double hit = 20-40 damage, 2x damage vs undead = 40-80 damage. If you add luck on all hits and morale, one Crusader could potentially do 160-320 damage
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TNT_Addict
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Beautiful Liar
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posted March 24, 2006 08:23 PM |
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Crusaders had a potential of being the most damaging unit in the game. 10-20 base damage, double hit = 20-40 damage, 2x damage vs undead = 40-80 damage. If you add luck on all hits and morale, one Crusader could potentially do 160-320 damage
Don't forget that crusaders and cyclopes growth is 4 a week twice as the other 6th level units  .
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Russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted March 24, 2006 08:46 PM |
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Don't forget that crusaders and cyclopes growth is 4 a week twice as the other 6th level units .
Ya, well, 4 vs 3 doesn't really compensate for 300 HP titans and black dragons have  Even 4 crusaders have less HP than 1 of them HOMM2 well really sucked. HOMM3 citadel/castle is a much better idea.
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 24, 2006 09:07 PM |
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True, they all really sucked. However crusaders are nice, expecially when you can have them like first week.
BTW: paladin dwelling is the only one that can be built without level 5 dwelling. This means that you will build them earlier. You can crush your opponent earlier.
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted March 24, 2006 10:06 PM |
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Also those "Creatures u love most"-threads are normally a pain in the ass for me, i put my little nostalgic line under it:
My most loved creatures in H2 were the "One-Eye-Laser" Cyclops. It was fun whne they hit the opponent with this glowing stream and nasty sound "bzzzzzzz".
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meph
Adventuring Hero
Rampaging Rampart
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posted March 25, 2006 04:41 AM |
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Crusaders are the best.
When playing vs. Necropolis, that is
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 25, 2006 05:16 AM |
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Crusaders are a good unit.
they have an attack skill of 11 and a defense skill of 12.
they have a damaga of 10-20 and they are cheap to buy.
They have 2 attacks, they are immune to curse, and they have 2x damage vs undead.
This makes them a strong unit to have, but they don't have much health so when they are attcking Bone Dragons, then it may be a little challenge, but it should still be overall, pretty easy fight.
Now on to the Titans.
The Titans cost quite alot to buy, but their strength is worth it.
They have an attack and defense skill of 15, making them more powerful than Crusaders. They have alot of health, and their damage is 20-30. Their minimum damage of 20 is 2 times more powerful than the crusader.
Their maximum damage is 3 times better than the the minimum damage of the crusaders.
The Titans have 16 shots, as they are a ranged attcker, and they are immune to mind affecting spells, they have no penalty for attacking adjacent units, and they are capable of defeating Dragons in one on one combat.
Thus making the Titans more stronger than Crusaders.
The Black Dragons however have a much higher max damage than the Titans.
They have a damage of 25-50. They do however have the same health as Titans. But they do however have a lower attack and Defense skill than Titans being only 14 for both of the skills.
They are immune to all spells, their attack affects 2 hexes.
In Battle the match could go either way, as Titans having a attack and defense skill of 15, and Black Dragons of having 14, and their Damage is 20-30.
It could go either way, mainly because of the unpredictability of the damage thing, and because of both having different attack and defense skills.
Also another thing, Genies also have the same damage as Titans of 20-30.
They don't have the attack or defense skill as Titans do making them weaker in the section. The Genie flies, and 10% halve enemy unit, making them quite strong with this excellent special ability.
Also in Heroes 1 the best unit was probably the Dragon.
It had a good damage of 25-50, it has a attack skill of 12 and a defense skill of 12.
It's attack spans 2 hexes and it immune to spells.
It didnt have that good growth being only 1 per week but it had good HP of 200.
The Cyclops was another good unit IMO.
It had a better growth of 2 per week.
It had a damage of 12-24 and a attack skill of 12 and defense skill of 9.
It had a HP of 80.
it had 20% chance of paralyzing the enemy unit, and it's attack spans 2 hexes, making them an alright unit.
Another good unit was the Phoenix in Heroes 1 as it was the second most powerful unit in the game.
It had a damage of 20-40, nearly the damage of the dragon.
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 25, 2006 10:08 AM |
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BTW: have you all noticed, that in homm2, units for Knight, Barbarian, Sorceress and Warlock have not changed since homm1 (only upgrades added) ?
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 25, 2006 10:33 AM |
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First of all guys, stop being so harsh with William, that is not the way fo HC. William, you should keep the "Titans rule..." sentince as your signature, it's more effective like that. As for units, the crusaders are the best IMO when playing against necro. Their growth rate, cheap cos, low construction requirments and abilities make them perfect as undead killers. You can get plenty of them before the Necro hero will even get liches, not talking of Bone Dragons. So when going against Necro take Knight.
The Phoenix is fast and if used with armagedon can easily win you battles, but still the best units of the game remain the Titan & Black dragon (lets not start an arguement which is better and leave it at this tie), if talking about the ones you can always recruit, and the all time ruler, the Ghost (if you can get it!).
P.S: is there a map ready for the multiplayer game?
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 25, 2006 10:40 AM |
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Well, crusaders are quite strong, especially when a lousy hero with 5 spell power kills 2 with lightning bolt, but if you are playing against necro, don't hesitate - pick warlock. 
Map is almost ready. Where should I submit it?
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 25, 2006 11:04 AM |
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Well done Supersonic! I think you can post the map on age of heroes, mapheaven or the heroic corner. If you have a page of your own, you can post it there, with a download link.
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 25, 2006 01:07 PM |
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crusaders get pwned by lightning bolts
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meph
Adventuring Hero
Rampaging Rampart
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posted March 25, 2006 03:29 PM |
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It's the low HP that makes Crusaders being on the low end of the LV6 Food Chain. Sadly.
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted March 25, 2006 06:24 PM |
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If talking about sounds, the best one is the Vampires "Blah" when attacking, that's for shore.
The Crusaders, like the Cyclops lack HP, thus are vulnarable to direct damage spells (especialy lightning bost). You should cast anti magic on them, but don't be to hasty with such a desicion cause' you may want to bless or hasten them. Only use anti magic on them if facing a strong magic hero.
By the way, I think that the Cyclops's laser attack is cool, too bad it isn't a 2 hex attack like in HOMM I.
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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supersonic
Famous Hero
being digested. E=mc^2, s=vt
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posted March 25, 2006 06:44 PM |
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If talking about sounds, the best one is the Vampires "Blah" when attacking, that's for shore.
The Crusaders, like the Cyclops lack HP, thus are vulnarable to direct damage spells (especialy lightning bost). You should cast anti magic on them, but don't be to hasty with such a desicion cause' you may want to bless or hasten them. Only use anti magic on them if facing a strong magic hero.
By the way, I think that the Cyclops's laser attack is cool, too bad it isn't a 2 hex attack like in HOMM I.
It is, old sport, it is...
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william
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
LummoxLewis
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posted March 26, 2006 12:34 AM |
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yes I agree, Crusaders are a good unit to have especially when playing against Necro, but there low HP is the bad thing about them.
They are weak compared to every other lev6 creature in the game.
But the 2 main creatures that stand out are the Black Dragons and Titans.
I read something that the Titans can beat Black Dragons easily in hand-to-hand combat.
Also Titans have higher attack and defense skills, the sAme HP, and they look really cool.
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csarmi
Supreme Hero
gets back
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posted March 26, 2006 04:44 AM |
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Black Dragons beat Titans easily in combat, they have about the same stats, but do much more damage.
There is even a rumour about it (a black dragon east a titan for breakfast, or smth like that)
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