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william
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posted September 22, 2007 02:52 PM

Well each race is the best but each for different reasons.
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posted September 22, 2007 10:46 PM

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However, my base will be protected with SCVs to counter Zergling Rush or early Zealot Rush.
Are you mad? SCV's don't stand any chance against zealots. Zealots have 100 life and 60 shield, there is no way even 10-15 SCVs can handle this. They only deal 5 points of damage.

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-- I agree with you.
-- And especially since most players who want to make a Zealot rush start with 2 (or in very rare cases 3) Gateways ... and if 2 (or 3) Zealots start killing your SCV-s there's NO WAY the Terran has a chance to survive......

I already said, 5 min, on the clock, 8 gateways pumping zealots at you.
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posted September 23, 2007 12:41 AM

Long live Zerg!!!
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posted September 23, 2007 11:27 PM

First a question: is SC still just as balanced with Brood War?
I play Brood war all the time, It feels just as balanced as the original but I dont quite know...

Anyway. I like all the races equally, but if one...gah! Well gotta be the humans (I love the human comments, especially the bikers rude ones) Because I love harrassing the enemy with valkyries + wraiths combo and with a group of APC (for repair of valks and wraiths) + medics and marines to keep the APC alive, keeping two flanked groups of those in areas near threats that can take care of the aircrafts. But at the same time making sure the ground help dosent get raped too!

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posted September 28, 2007 10:26 AM

i picked zerg, they're the funnest to play with (in my opinion) and sound the stupidest

brood war is still balanced i think, it gives terrans a medic which helps them heal (zerg already heal and protoss have shields) valkeries and devourers give terran and zerg much better anti air (protoss just own the skies) and i love lurkers, they make it a lot easier to take out siege tanks and those caterpiller things. although, dark archons a bit overpowered, allowing protoss to play as the other two races as well as their own. a bit sucky but its kind of fun in one on one when the terrans expect aircraft and end up getting destroyed by siege tanks instead

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posted September 28, 2007 06:43 PM

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posted September 29, 2007 03:02 AM

hmm i think zerg rules
whats your playing style with them?

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posted September 29, 2007 12:56 PM
Edited by skullman at 12:41, 23 Oct 2007.

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hmm i think zerg rules
whats your playing style with them?


I usually use Hydralisks and Gurdians


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posted October 10, 2007 09:34 PM

i prefer protoss. 2 teams of dark templars and 2 fleets of scouts and a fleed of carriers are the easiest way to victory. heh, i remember those days back in student dormitory when we played SC few hours at evening every day...good old days
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posted October 24, 2007 10:20 PM

Well I haven't played starcraft a lot but when I was gaining the very little amount of experians that I have I played protoss cuz zerg is ugly and terans look boring.








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posted November 30, 2007 11:21 PM
Edited by DKnight at 02:48, 08 Jan 2008.

Here's a SC/WC forum.We are 25 members and it used to be a school/WC/SC forum but since its dead and admin wants to revive it he told me to post it here.(btw im a mod)

http://www.newphew92.proboards22.com/index.cgi

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posted December 15, 2008 10:51 PM

Because of a discussion in a different thread which was kinda off-topic, I resurrected this one (I couldn't find a better Starcraft thread for general discussion, so please point me to it if it exists)


My build order for Protoss against AIs:

Train Probes until you can build up the Pylon (something around 8), then build the Pylon.

Continue building Probes until you have 50% more than the number of minerals you have. And in the mean time build 2 Gateways (when you have money for each of them).

Train Zealots as fast as you can from both Gateways, and build a third one when having enough money.

This way you'll have a lot more than the AI when it attacks.

Another alternative I like is to build a Forge instead of the third Gateway, a Pylon in front of my base and then two Photon Cannons there as well. Well in time you'll also be able to place the third Gateway for this strategy.


As for VS human opponents, this strategy is not that useful. Instead, build only 2 Gateways and limit your number of Zealots (at this time) to around 8. Place the Forge and the 2 Photon Cannons to have a good defense against a possible rush, and also build up the Assimilator (and fill it with 3 Probes). Since nobody would fight against two skilled human players when having no ally, you don't have the danger of being finished by a quick rush from multiple opponents, as in the AI case.

Tip: Build High Templars as fast as possible against a human, they are extremely useful and counter lots of nasty tactics the AI doesn't use.
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posted December 15, 2008 10:53 PM

Against humans, reaver rush FTW

I'm not that experienced with it though. I'm pretty bad, even though I stood up against some pros for 14 minutes

but yeah definitely I'm not that good vs humans.
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posted December 15, 2008 11:07 PM

My BO with Protoss exactly. I just do it a lot slower it seems.
So your secret is actually huge apm.
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posted December 15, 2008 11:17 PM

You knew this al ready yet you posted there. You're an evil spammer.

Anyways. In my games AI starts amassing troops but it doesn't seem to attack anymore. Only sends mages or groups of five or four last level flyers.
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posted December 16, 2008 01:40 PM
Edited by Asheera at 13:42, 16 Dec 2008.

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You knew this al ready yet you posted there. You're an evil spammer.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean here?
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Anyways. In my games AI starts amassing troops but it doesn't seem to attack anymore. Only sends mages or groups of five or four last level flyers.
Exactly. After their second attack it's an instant win.

This is a poorly made AI in my opinion.


And btw are you sure you place enough Probes at the Minerals? By 50% more, I meant that if you have 8 Minerals (usually there are 8), you should send 12 Probes to gather minerals. Believe me, when I was a noob I was only sending eight and the difference between 8 and 12 is simply huge, in terms of strategy.

If I told you that I managed to get High Templars and research Psionic Storm as well, before the Terran attacked me with the first attack (Terran attacks a little later than Protoss btw), would you believe me? (and yes, it's a true story)
Of course, I used the VS human strategy there (I was 'training' myself)
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posted December 16, 2008 01:46 PM

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Believe me, when I was a noob I was only sending eight and the difference between 8 and 12 is simply huge, in terms of strategy resources.

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posted December 16, 2008 02:06 PM

I do. I just play slower it seems. Not everyone has lightning speed. I haven't played StarCraft that much, well, actually I have but I always play games with no strings attached be it against human or computer. I don't stress over being good.

I can get high templars before terrans attack but I can't build forces and do that. Besides, terran attacks are pitiful against protoss. They are just too weak. With some scouting they are toast.
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posted December 16, 2008 02:09 PM

I can't believe how many people underestimate the terrans, it's the most advanced race, they have the hardest combos to handle, but they are unstoppable when played right. Yes 3 zealots could easily defeat 20 SCVs in normal combat, but play the SCVs right against the Zealots you could take 10 (It would be VERY hard, not impossible though). 12 tanks could take ANY land force when played right, invisible is exception. Wraiths can easily destroy equal numbers of scouts or more. The Science vessel can "kill" any protoss unit and damage ARMIES of zerg. The EMP will remove shield AND remove energy, usually >half total "life" removed and the templars and alike are useless. The SV also have Detector, 2-3 SVs and 'bout 6 could wipe out a big protoss base with 36 scouts or 50 dragoons or infinite zealots . They are not as good at killing zerg as Protoss, but since they have wrauths, valkyries and goliaths they could take out any aerial force from zerg and the tanks could destroy anything that doesn't fly. terrans can turtle against any zerg player and destroy any protoss. Their biggest weakness is invisible units, their detector are too expencive compared to the other races (doesn't a Science Vessel cost 375 gas and (not sura at all) about 150-200 minerals / an overlord costs 100 mineral / observer cost 25 minerals and 75 gas (I'm not 100% certain, especially not the SV)).
I can honestly say that the Terrans are the BEST RACE, but the hardest to master, I can also honestly say that I've never seen any one truly master them. They are the best but hardest.
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posted December 16, 2008 02:11 PM
Edited by Asheera at 14:11, 16 Dec 2008.

@Joonas: Weak? Without High Templars or Photon Cannons, it's pretty tough. Are we talking about the whole squad of Marines + Firebats + Medics? I just hate those Medics, they are so overpowered...

Oh and I have High Templars + 8 Zealots + 2 Photon Cannons when the Terrans attack, or something like that.

And I understand perfectly about that high speed... I don't like it either, it's the one reason I don't like Star/Warcraft that much, especially in multiplayer (at least in Singleplayer you can change the speed whenever you want). Once I lost a game not because I didn't have enough army, actually I would have won easily, but I lost it because I couldn't cast all those spells in time (Disruptive Web, Psionic Storm, etc) (against a Terran, Disruptive Web is excellent at taking out Siege Tanks)
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