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RTI
Adventuring Hero
Now known as Rarensu
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posted September 01, 2006 08:31 AM |
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perhaps instead of naming them something real (and therefore cliché), you could take something real and change the spelling (this is always a hit in fantasy novels). For example, vanguard might become v'angard.
Because the orcs are supposed to be tribal, them having non-english names for things seems perfectly reasonable, and the players would still be able to figure out what it means.
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A Proponent of Spelling, Grammar, Punctuation, and Courtesy.
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted September 01, 2006 02:44 PM |
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DWARVES GOT BEAR RIDEEEEERS!!!!!!!! 
Gosh I just want to run naked through the streets from hapiness.
Ok, maybe not. But still, bear riders... Another thing stolen from Warhammer and yet fantastic.
But who on Earth came to the moronic idea of including fire mages into the dwarf faction? That's wrong... Just... wrong...
Anyway, I really appreciate what you guys have done to make the orcs fit into Heroes V again, but the cold, cruel fact is that Nival was quicker. I just don't realise why they didn't include orcs at all. We can still hope that they are planning to put the orcs as a surprise faction which can't be seen yet, but the odds are really not in our favour.
However, our work must not be futile. We will finish this Stronghold in any way we can and then send it to Nival. Don't forget that heroes III and IV had two expansions. 
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 01, 2006 03:21 PM |
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Shaman and mystic for names one huge bird.
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vigant
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 01, 2006 04:52 PM |
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Quote:
But who on Earth came to the moronic idea of including fire mages into the dwarf faction? That's wrong... Just... wrong...
How many times do i have to tell you people - dwarves worship Arkath!
ARKATH - THE DRAGON OF FIRE!!!
I'm not overreacting am I? 
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 01, 2006 11:28 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 01:20, 02 Sep 2006.
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WE KNOW THEY DO!!! We are thinking of alternatives. I have changed Berserkers to Vanguards and Shaman Elders to Shaman Mystics in the MASTER POST. I have also moved the caster ability to the Mystics and removed War Charge but added Unlimited Shots and no Range Penalty for the Shamans. As far as spells go for the shamans, I have only added slow. That leaves us with two more spells. Suggestions people?
I've also added the stats of the creatures to the Master Post. The Master Post is on PAGE 8. It's the longest one there is...
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 02, 2006 09:22 AM |
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Spells..hmm...hmm
weakness(adv.)?stonepikes(exp.)?
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Unixmage
Known Hero
Demon Slayer
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posted September 02, 2006 11:03 AM |
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Not really an orc fan but I would have preferred them to those goofy bearded overconfident shrimps!
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted September 02, 2006 12:52 PM |
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Shrimps?
Stone Spikes would be an ok spell, I think. Weakness is classic
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 02, 2006 03:35 PM |
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Now that we done got the units and stats finalized (shaman mystic spells done too), anyone wanna make any comments on the master post? If not let's round up the Barbarian/Overlord/Chieftain Hero and I think we're all set to send it over to Nival.
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 02, 2006 04:52 PM |
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Master post ok.
Barbarian or chieftain for hero with attack(45%) main, defense30% second, spellpower(15%) third and knowledge(10%) last????????
Comments?
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted September 02, 2006 09:19 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 21:23, 02 Sep 2006.
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I just noticed how the campaign will have to be changed a little, as well as the storyline. Basically, every "Dimorgh" word should be changed to "Ancestors".
I finished the credits, tell me if I missed someone.
YE OLDE STRONGHOLD CREDITS
Alphabetically for each section
Creature lineup & abilities: Baklava, SBlister, WarOverlord
Creature Stats: GnollMage, SBlister
Creature Descriptions: WarOverlord
Timeline & Campaign ideas: Baklava, WarOverlord
Hero Skills & Abilities: SBlister, WarOverlord
Racial Ability: Baklava, WarOverlord
Interesting “Shrimp” Metaphore for Dwarves: Unixmage
Other ideas and support: Actionjack, Alcibiades, Crashnburn, Daystar, FriendOfGunnar, JoonasTo, RTI, Vigant
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 02, 2006 09:21 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 21:27, 02 Sep 2006.
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Anyways I'm gonna add the Barbarian/Chieftain to the Master List soon...
Thanks Baklava...
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted September 02, 2006 09:24 PM |
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Sorry... I fixed the credits now
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 02, 2006 10:00 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 20:10, 12 Sep 2006.
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ok this is VERY VERY IMPORTANT.
We need:
1. New Hero ability for Sorcery for the barbarian/chieftain. The one's previously suggested were not up to par. COMPLETED
2. The dwarf unit is now Stormlord so we can revert back to Warlord. COMPLETED
3. Baklava, I need you to write up a description for the Bloodlust ability. COMPLETED
4. CrashBurn, you'll need to explain ambush.COMPLETED
5. War-Overlord, you'll need to do both Pillage and the Ultimate and name the ultimate. COMPLETED
6. Beginning stats for the Hero. COMPLETED
7. Do you guys wanna do 10 specializations for individual orc heroes. Like Furious for Agrael and Paragon Knight for Godric, to name a few examples...COMPLETED
8. I think we can leave Nival to the naming of the Orc heroes.COMPLETED
9. Go over the stats and see if anything needs tweaking. And select the resource used to purchase the behemoth. I suggest Crystals because sulfur has already been used by two creatures (black dragons/devils), gems by two (angels/green dragons). Leaving crystal and mercury by one each. seeing that mercury doesnt really go well with the behemoths, I suggest Crystals. COMPLETED
Alright, we are nearly complete people. A lineup of the specialty buildings is also in order but that will come once we finish off with the Hero. Look foward to hearing from you all.
ps - The MASTER POST has been updated with the Hero now.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 02, 2006 11:55 PM |
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Important stuff;
1. Ancestral Teachings:Cuts interval with 50% for casting Spiritcall.
I also think we should find a replacement for Blazing Weapons, because I based that on the Fire Dragon. Bonecrusher, stack breaks enemies bones, thus rendering it immobile(small chance(I just made this up, don't kick my ass if it sucks)). It might also be a good idea to change the berserk ability of the Vanguard, seeing that something of the like will be used for the Dwarves.
2. I vote Chieftain. Mainly because barberian is a derogatory name for someone viewed as uncivilised and because a Chieftain is a community leader, who would be a natural choice for a military leader.
5. (I don't exactly understand what kind of description you're looking for but I'll try)
Raiding: For every creature killed a certain amount of gold is stolen/raided of their corpse. The amount of gold raided is dependant of the level of the creature; level 1> 1-3 gold; level 2> 2-5 gold; level 3> 4-8; level 4> 6-10; level 5> 9-14; Level 6> 12-17 gold; Level 7> 15-20 gold. The estimate amounts of gold raided should be calculated and shown with the estimate of kills.
Ultimate - Uncontrollable Rage: The Hero recieves the ability to cast Bloodlust on all friendly stacks (including summoned stacks).
6. I say the Hero starts with 4 attack and 1 defense.
7. I wouldn't mind doing some of the Unice hero skills.
8. I was actualy looking forward to thinking up some names and bio's for some of the heroes.
9. I vote crystal, I agree with SBlister and the Behemoth has had Crystal in the past before.
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 03, 2006 12:59 AM |
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To War-Overlord:
1. I love both the skills. Bonecrusher and Ancestral Teachings are awesome names. I have a feeling they are gonna give Cleave to the Dwarf berserkers, so lets just keep berserk to the vanguard, though an alternate name would be nice.
2. I'm with you on Chieftain. Chieftain 2 Barbarian 0
5. Thanks for the descriptions. I will add em right now.
6. Cool.
7. Alright. Just include Shaman's Chosen.
8. You know what, if you wanna write bios, be my guest man. I thought everyone would like a break from so much creation. Looks like everyone is giving 110% into the creation of our stronghold.
9. Crystal 2. will be added.
Thanks war-overlord.
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 03, 2006 03:45 AM |
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For the list of Dwarf abilities go:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=19313&pagenumber=6
Apparently the dwarf berserkers have something similiar to our Vanguard berserk. Hmm... We need to find something to replace it then...
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted September 03, 2006 12:12 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 12:15, 03 Sep 2006.
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(STRING) Bloodlust
Activated combat ability. Each turn a unit under the Chieftain's/Barbarian's command has the option to attack the nearest enemy unit by dealing (STRING)% more damage, available only once per unit. At this level, (STRING) can use this ability.
First string means basic, advanced, expert etc, depending on the situation, second one is the percentage for that level, and third one means who can use that ability depending on the skill level. I used strings because it would be too long if the complete tables are written.
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 03, 2006 06:34 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 16:09, 04 Sep 2006.
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I thought it'd be easier if I make a new post since there are some new issues I wish to bring up:
1. The berserk ability for the Vanguard has to go, seeing how they have been given to the berserkers. My ideas are either First Strike or Cleaving Attack (used by the Vindicators of the Renegade faction).
2. If we do use First Strike, then we have to remove it from the Defense abilities. I vote for Tribal Tattoos... Orcs get tattoos into their skin rending them with some kind of effect. What effect I'm not quite sure. Ideas anyone?
Other issues that need finishing:
1. CrashBurn, you'll need to explain ambush.
2. Do you guys wanna do 10 specializations for individual orc heroes. Like Furious for Agrael and Paragon Knight for Godric, to name a few examples... War-Overlord says he's interested. I am too.
3. War-Overlord wants to do the bios for the 10 orc heroes. Anyone interested in helpng him?
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 03, 2006 11:13 PM |
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As I have feared we have to replace Berserk, but since this is an activated ability I think it should be replaced with one. I've got an idea, but it should be added to the Veteran Vanguard or it won't make much sense. Bladewhril: The Veteran Vanguard starts spinning with his blades(Sabre and Axe), becoming a whirlwind of steel. This ability renders the unit immobile until it's next turn, but it will damage anything that passes or stops on any adjecent tile, retaliontion will be done at double strenght; Only usable once every battle.
I'll also try to do two hero Bio's and the uniqueir ability.
Raxxon
Raxxon has been gifted with shamanistic powers since birth. Being tutored by the Shamans of his tribe, Raxxon quickly became a powerfull shaman and was the youngest Orc ever to become a Mystic. During his years on the Shaman's Council he became famous for being a inspiring teacher and a dazzlingly fast spellcaster. Eventualy he left the Shaman's Council when he became the chieftain of his tribe. Even now his reputation inspires other Shamans to amazing feats.
Ability: Shaman's Chosen, applies the benefits of Sorcery to Shaman Mystics and gives Shaman Mystics Haste spell.
(Starts with Basic Bloodlust, Basic Sorcery and Mana Regeneration)
Herocnar
Herocnar is a seasoned warrior and has seen more battles than he whises to tell about. He was the commander of the Ravager under the famous hero Worgack and during these years he pushed himself and his ranks to amazing lengths. Herocnar retired after Worgack's legendary campaigns. Over the years no other commander has organized the Ravagers as effective as Herocnar, which led to the reinstatment of Herocnar as a commander.
Ability: Pack Leader, Specialises in Wolfriders. Wolf Marauders and Wolf Ravagers gain +1 to their attack and defense for every two levels of the hero, starting on the first level.
(Starts with Basic Bloodlust, Basic Leadership and Basic Attack)
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