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vhilhu
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We are NOT schysophren
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posted October 17, 2006 10:49 PM |
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Tidal Leciathan sounds too plain for me. its like "wave leviatan" or "pond leviatan". why not leave it wyrm -> leviathan?
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted October 17, 2006 11:00 PM |
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Dragonbreath
Famous Hero
Me like dragons!
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posted October 17, 2006 11:12 PM |
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Tidal Leciathan sounds too plain for me. its like "wave leviatan" or "pond leviatan". why not leave it wyrm -> leviathan?
If you read the thread earlier, people stated that wyrms were extict in the H5 world. I also do not see how a wyrm or leviathan can spellcast.
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actionjack
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted October 17, 2006 11:13 PM |
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Uh.. exscuse me.. but what would be the "reason" for needing a lv 7 caster?
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Dragonbreath
Famous Hero
Me like dragons!
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posted October 17, 2006 11:25 PM |
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Early in the thread WarOverlord said he wanted this town to be unique, and since there are no spellcasting lvl 7s, he wanted one.
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vhilhu
Famous Hero
We are NOT schysophren
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posted October 17, 2006 11:31 PM |
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Edited by vhilhu at 23:33, 17 Oct 2006.
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maybe then for something completely different than leviathan... a humanoid?
Pagan Spirit -> Pagan Deity
i mean humanoid so that he has 1 head and 1 torso. maybe also lots of hands + floating.
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Dragonbreath
Famous Hero
Me like dragons!
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posted October 17, 2006 11:36 PM |
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Since nagas are water creatures(read the thread before saying, "why are they in a swamp then?!") WarOverlord wanted a water creature, and got the leviathan. A random desert creture does not fit in well with a swamp town.
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crepus
Adventuring Hero
Nuclear Power Plant
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posted October 18, 2006 12:46 AM |
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My vote is for Leviathan - Ancient Leviathan, the great-great-great-great-grandfathers of the youthful and reckless leaviathan 
Because, as far as I remember sifting through your Orc town, that Behemoth wasn't called ancient at all, was he?
By the way, what would his spell be?
Hero:
Zher-Otonine, female naga.
Always the gambler, Zher-Otonine studied the ways of fortune for many years, developing a knack to always be the lucky one in the end, leaving her game opponents misfortunate sods. Not until she entered the hight ranks of the military did she reveal that she could siphon off enemies fortune, an ability she now uses to increase the luck in her troops while decreasing it in her enemies.
Fortune taker: Hero has the chance to steal luck from random enemy creatures for the rest of the battle, adding them to random own troops. The higher hero level, the more luck will be stolen. Does not work if all enemies have luck -5.
Basic Luck, Basic Light Magic
My thought on the development: At level one she has a 50% chance to steal one point of luck, then adding 2% per hero level. At level five she gets a 30% chance for a second theft, at level ten for a third and so on, making her end up at level forty with two luck always being stolen, and additional luck points taken at 90, 80, 70, 60, 50, 40 and 30% chance, potentially stealing totally nine luck points from enemies. This hero special is basically one of the abilities I put in my Hive town, but it works equally well here.
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Mater tua criceta fuit, et Pater tuo
redoluit bacarum sambucus.
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actionjack
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted October 18, 2006 12:47 AM |
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whats wrong with having a lv 6 caster and a lv 7 brute unit?
else would just exchange Wyrm with Priestess... but I think that would break up the overall flow of exisiting creature line ups. (as they would in serious lack of low level shooter)
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crepus
Adventuring Hero
Nuclear Power Plant
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posted October 18, 2006 01:24 AM |
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Sifting through the Master Post...
...I have a few remarks.
I think the Mark of Wrath ability the High Archon or whatever her name will be, should not make attacking enemy suffer from a random Destructive Spell. I would prefer it to give High Archon a free shot at the enemy instead. Or if it has to be a spell then I say Eldritch Arrow alone. Spell suggestion: Archon gets adv. Haste and basic suffering, High Archon gets exp. Haste, adv. Suffering, adv. Deflect Missile and adv. Eldritch Arrow.
If the Ancient Leviathan is to be a spellcaster as well then my vote is for Expert Cleansing, Expert Righteous Might and (possibly) Expert Decay.
As for the race special, I really think much of Alcibiades
Quickening abilities, are usable. A sorcery special so to say. And waaaaaaaaay better than hydromancy.
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redoluit bacarum sambucus.
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actionjack
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted October 18, 2006 02:23 AM |
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Here is a nice pic of Leviathan-type of beast that I found...
(see link for the original post)
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1062900&postcount=59
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted October 18, 2006 03:59 AM |
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Edited by SBlister at 04:09, 18 Oct 2006.
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Hydromancy is more original. But thats just me... Quickening could be used as a secondary ability. What is the Sorceress' primary attribute? Knowledge or Spellcasting?
Archon 4 Priestess 0 Theocrat 2 I like it.
I was thinking that if we do use hydromancy there would be a building destined for this. We shall see. Pool of Shalassa as a Tear of Asha building? Hmm... if we dont use hydromancy then i say yes. if not i would like to reserve the name "pool" for this building. i'm against the level 7 caster. lets keep it at level 6. My original idea for the Archon's Wrath ability was what u suggested Crepus. If you prefer it that way, I'm with you on that one.
Name suggestions:
1. Archon - High Archon
Heirophant - Archon
2. Swamp Hellion - Swamp Leviathan
(That is if wyrms really are extinct. and if they are, could some please show me where its written that they are extinct.)
Will contribute more when I have more time.
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted October 18, 2006 11:02 AM |
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Hierophant sounds nice. But what's a Hellion?
Zher-Otonine needs a name change. How about just Zher?
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Dragonbreath
Famous Hero
Me like dragons!
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posted October 18, 2006 01:44 PM |
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Well, if you don't want a lvl 7 spellcaster at least give more spellcasting units. One spellcaster for a magic-oriented town? The Preatorians could cast teleport, maybe. The zelots could cast too, though they would have to be low-level spells like Eldrich Arrow.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 18, 2006 02:58 PM |
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Time is short now, so I'll make it brief.
I will be on vacation untill coming tuesday. Have fun while I'm gone and don't agrue to much amongst yourselves.
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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Golemcrafter
Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
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posted October 18, 2006 04:54 PM |
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Could somebody say, what the Hydromancy ability is?
If you still need an extra building look at this:
Bridge of Sighs:
The swamp hero's and the friendly creatures' movement increases by 20% and decreases the speed to all enemy units by 20% during a town capture. (This ability is not the same with teh Stable in the Haven town, because there, the hero gets only an extra bonus to his movement, moreover, only to the end of the week.)
Actually, when do you want to post your ideas?
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astaunding.[...]It must be
recognized that his mind was
able to picture every single
detail of his faction
accurately, something most of
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted October 18, 2006 05:39 PM |
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Hydromancy is more original. But thats just me... Quickening could be used as a secondary ability. What is the Sorceress' primary attribute? Knowledge or Spellcasting?
Archon 4 Priestess 0 Theocrat 2 I like it.
I was thinking that if we do use hydromancy there would be a building destined for this. We shall see. Pool of Shalassa as a Tear of Asha building? Hmm... if we dont use hydromancy then i say yes. if not i would like to reserve the name "pool" for this building. i'm against the level 7 caster. lets keep it at level 6. My original idea for the Archon's Wrath ability was what u suggested Crepus. If you prefer it that way, I'm with you on that one.
Name suggestions:
1. Archon - High Archon
Heirophant - Archon
2. Swamp Hellion - Swamp Leviathan
(That is if wyrms really are extinct. and if they are, could some please show me where its written that they are extinct.)
Will contribute more when I have more time.
yup they are extinct and it is mentioned at least in one of the timelines also.
use knowledge as primary since all other skills have 2 faction with them as main if you coun't stronghold .
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted October 18, 2006 07:03 PM |
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HYDROMANCY. What happens is this. The Sorceress (Hero) has a pool of hydromantic powers. This pool has a certain number of points in it according to the following:
Basic - 30 points
Advanced - 50 points
Expert - 70 points
Ultimate - 100 points
Now the hero has these points. what this ability allows is for creatures to drain certain amount of points from the heroes hydromantic pool to do certain abilities as listed below:
1. Water Shield - Gives 100 extra HP to the stack (10 points)
2. Water form - Allows stack to teleport to another tile (2 points per tile teleported)
3. Cleansing waters - Removes enchantment (3 points per level of enchantment. aka 3 points to remove a level 1 dark/light magic spell, 9 to remove a level 3 spell)
4. Healing waters - Heals stack (1 point per 5 HP healed). Better used for high class creatures. does not ressurrect.
5. Imbuing Waters - Replenishes mana (1 point per mana). Usable by the Archon-Queen (new name for priestess/high priestess)
6. Tidal Wave - Stuns enemy stack (10 points per hit)
Visually we can see water being drawn from a mystical source and used to gain the abilities. Each ability will look different visually.
I think we can add a few more abilities to the above. I personally think this is as good as it gets. What do you think?
Hydromancy. To those of you who havent see it before, what are ur thoughts?
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But what's a Hellion?
A Hellion is another name for beast. So technically anything could be a hellion.
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baklava
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted October 18, 2006 07:39 PM |
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A Hellion is another name for beast. So technically anything could be a hellion.
 I'll be honest with you, I don't like it. I would like to see other peoples' opinion about this.
Have a nice trip WarOverlord.
And I think it would be better to drop the "swamp" prefix in front of leviathan, so that it's leviathan - upgrade: <insert cool prefix here> leviathan.
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted October 18, 2006 08:51 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 20:55, 18 Oct 2006.
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Well if the wyrms truly are extinct and both creatures have to be named leviathan, I would suggest Leviathan-Ancient Leviathan as well. There's no other name to call these creatures. Everyone says the Wyrms are extinct but i have yet to see any proof. I reread the timelines and they shed any light on the matter. So I ask: where did you guys read this information?
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