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Darkeye
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posted April 14, 2007 05:43 PM |
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yeah, don't forget the renegade inferno with my fallen devils and uber infernal heroes like santa claus!
Yes, that Fallen Devil is clearly my Favourite  - Helping old ladies across the street 
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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted April 14, 2007 07:53 PM |
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Edited by dschingi at 19:54, 14 Apr 2007.
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yeah, don't forget the renegade inferno with my fallen devils and uber infernal heroes like santa claus!
Santa as an infernal hero, huh?
Wait for my Sylvan army headed by the Tooth Fairy!
Oh wait, is that the Easter Bunny coming from the left? ... aaahhh
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emilsn
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posted April 14, 2007 09:08 PM |
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yeah, don't forget the renegade inferno with my fallen devils and uber infernal heroes like santa claus!
Santa as an infernal hero, huh?
Wait for my Sylvan army headed by the Tooth Fairy!
Oh wait, is that the Easter Bunny coming from the left? ... aaahhh
OMG!! Just like in HoMM 4 with all those Old man and biker thing  Someone make mods like that ... Awesome humor .- Tooth Fairy! EAT TOOTHS!! 
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Ellderon
Adventuring Hero
Lightbringer
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posted April 14, 2007 09:50 PM |
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Interesting..you all assume that the alternate upgrade must have the same base - (or in other words, if the normal unit is mounted, the other possible upgrade must be mounted too) Why?
Why couldn't a skeleton be upgraded into a skeleton rider or skelton archer?
Or why not upgrade the Cavalier to either pladin or crusaider (one on foot, other on horese)?
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TheDeath
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
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posted April 14, 2007 09:52 PM |
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Personally the main reason is because Nival will probably not bother to make other models, so they will just change the texture (i.e the 'shape' is the same, the colors and textures are different)
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ZombieLord
Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
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posted April 14, 2007 09:55 PM |
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Yeah, I don't think they'll bother creating new models when a simple retexture would be enough (in THEIR oppinion)
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted April 14, 2007 10:08 PM |
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I guess it will be like that..
Oh, maybe they'll add some minor elements.. like the horns for vindicators, and so on.
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ZombieLord
Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
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posted April 14, 2007 10:09 PM |
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Those things are called 'attachments', and yes, I think they will that.
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Ellderon
Adventuring Hero
Lightbringer
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posted April 14, 2007 10:10 PM |
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Edited by Ellderon at 22:14, 14 Apr 2007.
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That would be lazy indeed.
But some minor changes to the model is all that is needed really.
Think about it - tehy have quite a nice number of models allready. Jsut pick one (even from a differetn faction), add/remove a few thing, give it a new texture - and presto - you have a new unit.
Not that it would be too hard to make mounted/unmounted units..since, well, they DO have the model of the horse and paladin as separate - they would jsut need to give the paladin model some new animations.
By the same logic, you could put any dismounted unit on a horse, since both models allready exist.
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Darkeye
Promising
Famous Hero
of the Deep
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posted April 15, 2007 09:57 AM |
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But an upgrade from small to large creature is unlikely to happen...
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted April 15, 2007 04:24 PM |
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Mounted to unmounted = Not going to happen why? Lets take Cavalier, they were TRAINED to ride Horses, then why would they just throw that training away and learn to fight with a 2 hand sword ? .. And yes large to small not going to happen either.
But ofcourse we could hope for some new thinking from Nival and make new designs. but the odds are like 1 to 10000000000000000000000000000
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Ellderon
Adventuring Hero
Lightbringer
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posted April 15, 2007 10:44 PM |
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Since when does size automaticly equal strength?
And FYI - knights were trained in everything - fighting on horse and on foot with a large variety of weapons.
If they want to specialize in something later, that is theri porogative.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted April 16, 2007 10:10 AM |
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Since when does size automaticly equal strength?
In this case, it's the weight; Cavaliers can deliver a fatal blow because they can reach high speed on the horses, and they are quite heavy. From a simple physical formula E=mc^2 you can guess that they can hit much, much stronger than any infartry can
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Ellderon
Adventuring Hero
Lightbringer
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posted April 16, 2007 12:17 PM |
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True..especially with hammers or maces..which are kinetic-kill weapons. That adds even more to the damage.
But it does have it's downside.. Slowing down or stoping once you got some momentum takes a lot more time than you're udes to. Turning and aiming is also difficult.
And last but not least - if your horse dies it can chrush you....or the ones behind you will chrush you, as tehy can't stop on a dime..
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted April 18, 2007 02:55 PM |
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I would see Eathquake/Summon Elementals/Bless/Righteous Might spell in Horde spellcasters
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted April 18, 2007 04:28 PM |
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Academy:
1.- Gizmo?- prototype of Gremlins - He would be able to attack bad dudz with fluffy balls and when he would be attacked with cold spells there would appear some gremlins' unites 'round him. The number of unites and number of gremlins in each woudl be equal to no. of Gizmos.
2.-Temple Guardian- Gargole with no wings. Very slow, but with very big def and total immunity to magic attacks...
3.-Exo-skeleton- alternative version of golem. It won't be able to move unless someone or something sit in it... It will improve skills of unite which would use it...
4.I have heard about Battle Mages which won't be able to cast anythin' but their shootin' attack will be much more powerfull...
5.Master Djinn- less def and less attack, life and 1 initiative point, but you would be able to ask him to make your wish come true with 30% chance to succes. You could ask him to make you to win the battle 4 egsample.
6.Rakshasa Holly Cow- Mysterious blue gost of Holly cow. Caster...
7.Gigant- no shooting ability, but very fast unite.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted April 18, 2007 04:48 PM |
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Fortress:
1.Shieldwielder- 2 shields; attack with one of them and bashes evil dudz. Also all the creatures around shieldwielders' unite gets +1 to def for 4 shieldwielders in unite.
2.Double-spearwielder- has two spears and can attack two hostile unites.
3.Bear Chargers- 100% chance of Paw Strike if unite covers 5 squares while movin' and Jousting abillity.
4.BEARserkers- lycanthrope; ability to change himself into werebear- gain more life, better dmg, att and def. and Paw Strike ability...
5.Rune Magi- similar to rune patriarch, but 25% magic proff only, and reduces all runes price.
6.Hamma Tunda- Thane with two Hammers, who attacks with both of them at one time. No retaliation. 2XStorm Strike, but no Storm Bolt Ability...
7.Flying Fire Dragon- no commentz...
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 18, 2007 07:41 PM |
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Dungeon alternatives:
lv1: Rogue - Poisonous Attack, No enemy retalation. Increased stats.
lv2: Fury Nudist - For guys only. Wearing nothing but thongs this time
lv3: Minotaur King or Defender - Heavy Blow skill (Paw strike) or simply Bash.
lv4: Lizard Rider - Slower, Stronger and Enraged.
lv5: Chaos Hydra - Mutch lower health, increased damage and initiative.
lv6: Shadow Biatches - 2 choises. Better spells whit little more magic oriental creature or increased stats in exchange from spells. No meelee penalty or yet even better Imbue/Whip Strike ability in range attack! I would like Imbue system for creature.
lv7: Red Dragon - Allmoust sure it's gonna be Red Dragon.
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Lesij
Famous Hero
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posted April 21, 2007 12:42 PM |
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Alternative to Blood Furies- Harpies, Blood Fury with small dragon wings and bird-like legs. Maybe caster???
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted April 21, 2007 01:48 PM |
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wanna heavy cavalry! with jousting, armoured and no reatiliation or kind of pikemans, fairy dragon for sylvan...
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