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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
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posted March 12, 2013 07:28 AM |
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Not 50, I remember when I played first time, got in tavern all AI heroes with 99 spell power, in one week of 7 daily Armageddon he was reduced to only dragons, while main did other quests. Also with 2-3 phoenix we can make him kill his own units. Once the manticores are dead, another group of dragons takes their hex, so the slaughter continues.
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted March 16, 2013 12:26 AM |
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I dont see any problems with that battle if ench are the only ranged stack he has. Just summon elementals untill they waste all shoots and Dragonmaster himself wastes all his manas. Depends a lot on what spells he uses but in theory this doesnt seem hard.
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted March 16, 2013 06:35 AM |
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But then how will you kill him after he wastes shots and spellpoints? For some reason when you would resurrect even once he would fly out, when against Conflux I used this strategy and was able to get away with one or two Resurrects on my Titans. So if you want to Resurrect then you have to protect them with Forcefield. But then, one Fear and it is over, and Azure Dragons cannot be killed quickly.
Ghost Dragons? But then you would need Prayer AND Haste to outrun the Azure Dragons. You don't have time to cast those behind a Forcefield. In fact, you don't even have time to cast one spell. Turn 1: cast Forcefield (you must cast it before Resurrecting anything or he will fly out). Turn 2: cast Resurrection, and then the Forcefield disappears at the end of the turn and you will be killed by Azure Dragons at the start of the next turn. Because he has +4 speed, the only thing you have faster is Phoenixes, and they are vulnerable to Fear (no Azure Dragons of your own...).
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted March 16, 2013 09:14 AM |
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Damn, i forgot, that you cant have your own azures in that battle.
If so, i think its possible to have 2 stacks of archdevils and 1 stack of shooters inside the forcefield, you only need to cast prayer to outrun dragons. the chances that both devils skip the same turn because of fear are very low.
Lets say you ressurect phoenix, then you are faster than him so you can ressurect at the end of a turn and then put force field again. Shooters kill asures, then, if they run out of shoots, you can clone them and keep on shooting.
Of course i'm not sure about that cause i didnt play this battle myself. its just a theory
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Maciek
Known Hero
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posted March 16, 2013 01:48 PM |
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So you have Phoenixes and Clone and he has First Aid Tent?
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted March 16, 2013 10:15 PM |
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So you have Phoenixes and Clone and he has First Aid Tent?
Yes. Planning some bug abuse? ;P
EDIT: I tried what you implied and yeah, he was defeated very easily (although it kept crashing, took a while for it not to do so). Kind of lame though.
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Damn, i forgot, that you cant have your own azures in that battle.
If so, i think its possible to have 2 stacks of archdevils and 1 stack of shooters inside the forcefield, you only need to cast prayer to outrun dragons. the chances that both devils skip the same turn because of fear are very low.
Lets say you ressurect phoenix, then you are faster than him so you can ressurect at the end of a turn and then put force field again. Shooters kill asures, then, if they run out of shoots, you can clone them and keep on shooting.
Of course i'm not sure about that cause i didnt play this battle myself. its just a theory
Then you might as well do the way I did it with Behemoths, because it requires less luck and is much faster (no waiting for shots/mana wasting required). I used 3 stacks of ArchDevils (2 is still 1/25 chance they both get fear) + Behemoths in the upper right corner of the castle, after teleporting Behemoths in to kill the Enchanters. When you initially Resurrect the Phoenix there are two turns where you have a 20% chance of failing, which means a 64% chance of not failing on either... after all the time spent, failing would REALLY suck.
BTW, I can give you a save if you want to try playing it.
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted March 17, 2013 10:12 AM |
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Where can I download the map which dragonmaster has the azures? I checked my map from the editor too but the dragonmaster had only dungeon troops 
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted March 17, 2013 05:15 PM |
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Yeah, would be nice to try this battle Post the save and the map itself if you can, please.
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted March 19, 2013 11:29 AM |
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koelle
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 19, 2013 11:28 PM |
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hi guys,
where can i get the summon boat spell? just went to the open seas and got my ass kicked by teal player in castle.
donīt know where else to go without summoning boats here and there
regards
koelle
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted March 20, 2013 12:21 AM |
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You have to defeat Teal, then go the the shrine on the left.
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koelle
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 20, 2013 12:29 AM |
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thanks,
any strategic hints?
tried force field (no chance. get shot down before iīm in position)
tried blinding archangels and blocking his shooters (also failed - troops get teleported outsinde and kill me). seems to be the toughest fight so far for me.
reg
koelle
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted March 21, 2013 05:24 PM |
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To win this fight you need to survive for 7 turns and blind everyone, than kill'em all 1 by 1. Blind one of his shooters first (if you blind both he will rush out), then blind angels and griffins, and then everyone else. If you cannot survive that long summon some elementals and blind his shooters when all your regular troops are dead - he shouldnt rush out agains elementals only.
about saved game - thanks for posting but where should i put this file, dont have a "save" folder in my Heroes 3 directory
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cruel
Tavern Dweller
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posted April 01, 2013 06:30 PM |
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Edited by cruel at 18:32, 01 Apr 2013.
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Hello
I'd like to ask a few questions about this terrific map.
There are 3 saves from me, are the times when I killed pink main hero ( no casualties ) and 2nd hero granted are enough ok to go further ? Or I already have lost to much time. My army ( 2nd hero save ) is not enough to kill tower and Serena ( or it's possible ? ). How long can I wait for reinforcements ( and how many I should have ) ? There will be huge bonus in Le coin and bonus elves. Maybe some1 could give me some saves from this part ( entering tower etc ) and hints ? I don't think I will be able to finish this map, but I want to go as far as I can I play v2 version btw.
Thank you and sorry for my crap english.
http://speedy.sh/GjSSH/UTB.rar
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h3enthusiast
Hired Hero
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posted June 14, 2013 05:07 PM |
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Long time lurker, just registered to post here.
Completed UtB for the first time last night (instead of sleeping  ). I started off pretty well but my patience wore off a bit after a while and I massed troops for 2-3 months so that battles would go along faster = 11 months 1 week 4 days...
I feel like I've caught a few tricks along the way, however what I've learned most is that manipulating RNG can change everything in a fight.
For instance, I had most trouble vs. the Italians (rampart) because the main hero kept casting mass dispel. Changed a few troops around (split) and then he stopped, allowing for easy FF+haste on titans to kill him.
Thanks for the thread and all the helpful posts
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shugunhaha
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 25, 2013 02:50 PM |
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hello, it's me again.
I'm replaying this map but I got stucked with mr Heer K. S.
I had to change to WoG mode to make him attack my troop because in SoD mode he just ignore me...
I managed to defeat his troop but suffered a huge damage. I used Berserk on his troop (this spell effected on nagas, genies, Gargoyle) after blind arch mage. But I still got huge damage by titans and implosion.
All helps are welcome here
this is my savegame where I stucked
http://www.mediafire.com/download/d18365ca66zh3ek/unleashing_replay_4.GM1
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shugunhaha
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 25, 2013 03:04 PM |
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I have re-read Salamandre's reply on Herr K. S.
I wonder if there are other options (with minimal lost) or accept this huge lost of army? In my map, after defeating Herr K. S. I had to face another hero with 2k gremlins, 50 titans, ~150 nagas queen.
It's quite impossible for me in this fight.
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shugunhaha
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 25, 2013 03:11 PM |
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shugunhaha said:
hello, it's me again.
this is my savegame where I stucked
http://www.mediafire.com/download/d18365ca66zh3ek/unleashing_replay_4.GM1
this is the setting which I used to start the battle:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/iwquoa3kvy77ghi/unleashing_replay_4_temp.GM1
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h3enthusiast
Hired Hero
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posted September 26, 2013 04:53 AM |
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If you bypass him (see the Sanctuary), you can get Resurrection in the NW Tower town. You will lose a lot otherwise...
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shugunhaha
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 26, 2013 11:09 AM |
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If I pass by him, he will sail to the fortress towns and conquer them.
But the story doesn't come to an end, before I could get to the town to have resurrect spell, I have to fight with a pretty heavy army.
any idea?
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