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RoseKavalier
Admirable
Supreme Hero
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posted April 07, 2017 04:47 PM |
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Xyphistor said:
I really thought I had turned off all WoG options before starting the map, I guess maybe not... Anything else you can think of that's likely to bite me in the ass? 
Elixir of Life is bugged in WoG, restores 100% HP. Fix here, see some posts before for details.
Maybe Salamandre has added the fix to Safe SoD since then, I have not checked.
Besides Sylvan Centaurs and EoL, there's also another issue I'm on-and-off investigating but you don't have to worry about it in most cases.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted April 07, 2017 08:03 PM |
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Yeah, thanks for remembering it, I will add the fix then rerelease SoD mod soon in the era mods thread. Sorry for the delay, I was far away from Heroes.
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AdamK
Hired Hero
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posted November 26, 2017 07:16 PM |
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HI all,
now everything is working as expected
Utilized RK great add-on for HD mod and began this brilliant map from start.
Now with better army and MS management i could beat pink on 213.
Is this army enough for defeat Das Beer and set Gipilollas free? (check pics below).
Br,
Adam
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sadenygma
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 24, 2018 09:20 AM |
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hy
hy all ..
i recently found this map and wanted to play .. ok ..i have been playing for 15 months(game time).
ONE QUESTION : did the AI aka computer ever win ??
cause i lost to the computer .. and i think is a bug or somethin..ever seen that ??
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Zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted February 25, 2018 12:07 PM |
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There is timed event which free AI hero with DD and his orb of inhibition. He has legions of Azure Dragons. It is hidden time limit condition.
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sadenygma
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 26, 2018 09:08 PM |
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thank you .. i have discovered this using the map editor for heroes 3 .. but what i don't understand now is why ....cause i for one am not a pro player and can not complete the map .. in a longer time than 15 months ..and impossible in less .. thx
it was a nice map over all ... do you have any other recomandations for maps ?
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neoe
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 10, 2018 08:19 PM |
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Edited by neoe at 20:31, 10 Aug 2018.
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Hello,
I got into playing the map, going well so far, but seeing that I had too much army with me for the next opponents, orange and green, wanted to try the tactic of using the force field along with elf shooters and some genies.
But I am having the problem of casting the force field in the upper corner where shooters are and ammo cart.
I'm posting the images of the issue here https://imgur.com/a/tD4Z2vv
Since I never really used force field much, I am wondering is the issue technical or something else that I'm doing wrong? Do you have any advice?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 10, 2018 08:33 PM |
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If you need a fast two hexes creature behind the force field, do not bring an ammo card. There are ways to have infinite shoots, granted you have expert clone on your shooters. So first move would be to move archs near elves and cast force field. You can cast a second force field every 2 turns to fill the gap so no 1 hex unit can enter.
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Elfwood
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 31, 2022 10:14 PM |
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Edited by Elfwood at 07:26, 01 Feb 2022.
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defeat Sentinel
Thanks for many tips in this thread I finally beat the Dragonmaster in SOD version. The final fight against dragons for orb of inhibition is a cakewalk compared to DM.
Since I didn't see any suggestions about beating the Sentinel in this thread, I wanted to make a contribution.
NOTE: you need a few weeks of preparation after defeating the Dragonmaster to beat the Sentinel, so leave an Orange Dungeon unattacked so the Sentinel hero is not abandoned for having no town.
Sentinel stats: A99, D99, P99, K99, spell points 1000+
Spells: Armageddon, Implosion, Resurrection, Clone, Cure
Stacks: 9999 Titans, ammo cart, 9999 Black Dragons, 9999 Azure Dragons, 9999 Gold Dragons, tent, 9999 Phoenixes
The only way to beat Sentinel consistently (not relying on randomness of the RNG) is to first get rid of the Titan stack via hero bombs x5. This means you need to have El Trueno reach 90-90-90-90 to reach the external Tavern in the SW corner of the subterranean. Hire heroes that have Expert Air and Expert Earth.
a) hero bomb chain lightning to rid of ammo cart and tent
b) hero bomb with 2/3 single Phoenix stacks, 5/4 single Efreet Sultan stacks. Goal is to Expert Haste Efreet Sultan, so one of them moves before black dragons - who attacks black dragons from in between the titans and black dragons (where the ammo cart was), so the black dragon retaliation breath kills the titans. Each retaliation kills over 2500 titans, so repeat this step 4 times to completely wipe out the titans.
Once the titan stack is gone. You need a hero with Expert Tactics, Expert Wisdom, Expert Air, Expert Fire, Expert Water, Expert Earth. Preferably the hero also has Expert Offense. e.g. Bullhead
Your hero equips: Armor of the Damned, Orb of Vulnerability, Cape of Velocity (+2 speed), Ring of the Wayfarer (+1 speed), Necklace of Swiftness (+1 speed)
Your army has three stacks: 75+ Arch Devils, 4K+ Ancient Behemoth, 5 Phoenixes
Tactics phase: Move Arch Devils (AD) top left corner and Ancient Behemoth (AB) just below, so you can Force Field (FF) protect them from all the enemy dragons/phoenixes (you hero must not have ammo cart). Move your Phoenix nearby these two stacks, without hindering the FF.
1. Cast FF. Do nothing. Armor of the Damned casts slow to all enemy stacks (due to Orb of Vulnerability). Sentinel Cures his Phoenixes back to 25 speed.
2. Cast Expert Haste +5 speed, so your AD is 17 + 4 + 5 = 26 speed, which is higher than enemy Phoenixes. The AD gives you first turn every round to re-cast FF, unless they are struck with Fear (in which case you have to restart battle). Then wait AD, jump out to kill any enemy clones.
3. Cast FF again (since the first one disappeared). Bring AD back within the safety of the FF.
4. Cast Anti-Magic on AD so Sentinel doesn't Armageddon or Implosion them dead. Don't worry about Sentinel Armageddon or Implosion your AB (you can resurrect later).
5. Cast FF again.
6. Clone your AB (9 + 4 + 5 = 18 speed) as soon as its turn comes. Since enemy dragons are all slowed, the Cloned AB (13 speed) will act next, and they attack enemy Phoenixes. Goal: kill the enemy Phoenixes stack asap so your AD and AB are fastest two units on battle field, so the chances of both of them struck by Fear (thus losing the FF) is almost 0%. Repeat casting FF and Clone until the enemy Phoenixes are dead (takes about 3-5 Clone attacks). (Alternative: Expert Berzerk on a nearby enemy dragon to kill enemy Phoenixes)
7. Once enemy Phoenixes are dead - the battle vs Sentinel is won - you won't (almost never) have to restart battle due to Fear causing you to lose the FF. Expert Berzerk enemy dragons, until one stack remains, which is almost certainly the Azure Dragons - all the while your AB and AD hide behind FF. (Alternative: No Expert Fire Magic / Berzerk, just Clone AB and attack)
8. Blind, Slow, Berzerk the final stack of Azure Dragons.
9. Resurrect all your lost AB (AD are Anti-Magic'ed cannot resurrect).
10. Clone AB, then cast Haste, Prayer, Bloodlust, Bless (all Expert level). Move Clones next to blinded Azure Dragons.
11. Cast summon Air Elements (speed 7 + 4 + 1 = 12 > Azure Dragons slowed speed of 11). They are immune to Fear. Move them to next to blinded Azure Dragons.
12. Clone AB attack blinded Azure Dragons, then cast Blind again when Air Elements turn comes before Azure Dragons. Repeat until all dead.
The hero bombing of the Titan stack is cheesy but it's necessary, and since the map has a Tavern, it should be allowed to use hero bombs.
The fight vs Sentinel after killing the Titans is easy because Sentinel doesn't have a lot of spells - he keeps wasting turns casting Resurrect raising about 20-40 units, while you deal Clone attacks killing 3K-4K units.
Will post screencaps if requested.
Have fun kicking Sentinel's butt as revenge for Unleashing the Bloodthirsty map kicking your butt.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted January 31, 2022 10:32 PM |
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Well, it does still rely on RNG if you have to restart every tyime you get fear'd
I guess there is no helping these ultra hard maps for masochists...
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p0ttz
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 20, 2023 05:55 PM |
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The problem with this map is that there are several versions with completely different difficulty levels... The vast majority of the strategies are for the first version, so almost everything needs updating right now... It would be nice if someone made a walkthrough available... Me I finished the map already, but there is always something to improve...
Peace 
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted August 20, 2023 07:20 PM |
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p0ttz said:
It would be nice if someone made a walkthrough available...
It's one version but someone already did...
Glenn's Unleashing
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p0ttz
Tavern Dweller
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posted August 21, 2023 04:56 PM |
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Edited by p0ttz at 21:28, 22 Aug 2023.
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[url=null]null[/url] bloodsucker said:
p0ttz said:
It would be nice if someone made a walkthrough available...
It's one version but someone already did...
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOPMtitGErA&list=PL18SXpm11lDUjYP4nRrTn-ty54H-wN2xw]Glenn's Unleashing[/url]
On Youtube there are at least four UTB walkthroughs.
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNA8w40Z1qI]LEXIAV[/url]
[ URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uMmiwutti4]ROKKO[ /url]
For me these are the best, but what I wanted was for someone here to make a topic at the level of RoseKavalier in TEW.
I wanted to do it but I need time , but who knows ...
Thanks by the way !
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