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Star_King
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posted October 24, 2012 03:00 AM |
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Ask if you need any help, because I will assist you I am playing through this map for the first time too (I'm right after beating Teal).
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kalaxdg
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 29, 2012 09:11 AM |
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Quote: I believe he wanted to hide some event giving those and only accessible by fly/DD, then forgot. At my knowledge no one found them.
i replayed this map for the second time this week, and just wanted to point out that even if there's no event to give 60k resources for the AA huts, you can still get it easily. by the time you reach the trading post in southwest underground, you should have so much gold (like tens or hundreds of millions), to buy all the resources you need. done, 1800 archangels added to your team. they wont the final match for me this time 'round.
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted December 01, 2012 11:59 PM |
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Does anybody still have the save from Season's speedrun for me?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 14, 2013 10:39 PM |
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Playing again this map and defeated pink on 1.4.7. Not sure if it was a good idea to rush because I lost 200 elves from 500 to initiative/towers x4. Which could be avoided if I had some dragon flies.
But now I have 20 hydras. El Trueno is terribly bad built, not a single natural fighting skill.
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted February 15, 2013 05:47 AM |
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Good luck with Tower... I always wondered how Season beat them with minimal forces. I had to waste like a month waiting for reinforcements :/
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 15, 2013 03:06 PM |
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It can be done through editing towers spells. As El Trueno moves far away, it is possible to go first for resurrect tower (the well also is near) then just park inside, destroy catapult and cast air shield, but then no tower should have teleport or earthquake. If wizards have teleport any rush will be screwed.
Then the chinese have a special program reading battlefields obstacles on every map square. Thus they know exactly on which coordinates the battle will be optimal.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 15, 2013 10:52 PM |
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Got stuck 4.1.1 on Serena. She has sacrifice and will use it to resurrect titans again and again, her stats are twice mine. If Season did this fight month 2, I will go hang myself.
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted February 16, 2013 10:23 AM |
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I had won against serena but I don't remember what my forces were The fight was impossible to win in that situation for me, but it was possible if I let her attack me. I needed to let el trueno stay in the front of her and then ended the turn, then she attacked me. This will make her troops split differently, only 3 stacks
Anyway, I didn't manage to defeat Italians so I quit the map many months ago
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted February 16, 2013 10:25 AM |
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Btw, I remember that one guy played through the map in about 90 days and I'm really willing to see his walkthrough....
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted February 17, 2013 03:34 PM |
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I did that fight on 4.2.2, but with an army from month 3 week 4. Have you tried standing on Titan corpses to prevent their revival?
(To be honest another stack of Master Genies would have probably been better than Cyclops Kings, lol)
Only 27 spellpoints left, but that was enough to conquer the Stronghold (lost 5 Master Genies, whatever). But even if you don't have spellpoints you can have El Regueldo conquer the Stronghold for you without losing much time.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2013 03:39 PM |
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Had to bring more gorgons then it went ok. Lost a lot of time because second hero is moving slow. So fight was 4.3.x just because it took him 2 weeks to bring troops, while Trueno was taking a nap behind the monolith. Bad management.
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted February 22, 2013 04:10 PM |
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Hi! I just starded playing this map (conquered rampart at m1w2d3) and i got a question: am i supposed to abuse a double event bug and get troops right after a rampart twice? i mean, was this planned by a mapmaker, or not? maybe some ppl, who have already end this map can answer me.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 22, 2013 06:24 PM |
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted February 22, 2013 07:21 PM |
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Thanks man. The only reason i asked this is because i used to play some chinese maps in which mapmaker definetly wanted a player to abuse this bug
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted February 22, 2013 08:23 PM |
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Now that I think about it, I wonder if Season abused that in his speedrun (which you can do multiple times FYI - infinite elves)... would certainly be the answer to my question "how the hell did he beat Tower".
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted February 24, 2013 10:26 AM |
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My God! Just defeated Serena at month 3 week 1. Had only 1300 elves and some small supportive stacks, other troops are useless here. VERY hard fight, you need to be lucky to win this, but its possible for sure. And i'm not surprised Season could win that on month 2, its also possible, you only need to be even more lucky than me (and probably spend some evenings trying it)
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 24, 2013 10:42 AM |
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Screens! How lucky, give some details, with golden bow and 180 titans, she will eat 1200 elves in 2 rounds. Need gorgons, a lot of them.
Someone said that letting Serena attack will change her troops split. Tried several times and on 200% nothing changes.
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heroes_player
Known Hero
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posted February 24, 2013 12:00 PM |
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Well that's kinda of weird.. Maybe computer will act differently if el trueno has different troops, dunno. But in my battle every titan and naga and genie were in one stack so after this, the battle was piece of cake to win by blocking titans with one genie and shoot them etc etc..
Season was the player which I mentioned above. I'm really willing to know how he did it! I heard that he got armor of damned so it helped him through the unicorns at least... I also heard that he went through the town portal or something then got the win? Someone tells me plz!
I just completed the map 221 baker street and I would like to start a new thread for that just like Salamandre has done for some maps But the problem is that I would like to share where we can dload 22 baker street map cause I can't find it from maps4heroes nor celestial heavens. I myself dloaded it from maygwan's "top XL maps" pack. Btw maygwan has made really great maps I wonder when he will make new ones in the future
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Star_King
Known Hero
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posted February 24, 2013 03:45 PM |
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Upload it yourself to maps4heroes/mediafire/rapidshare etc
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The_new_guy
Hired Hero
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posted February 24, 2013 04:04 PM |
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Quote: Screens! How lucky, give some details, with golden bow and 180 titans, she will eat 1200 elves in 2 rounds. Need gorgons, a lot of them.
Someone said that letting Serena attack will change her troops split. Tried several times and on 200% nothing changes.
Well, first of all i let Serena to attack me and she definetly rearranged her troops and had only 3 stacks and not 7. Couldnt win if she had 7 stacks for sure.
Secondly she cant be defeated by a common block-ressurect-block again strategy or at least i couldnt win it like that. If you block she either clones her titans or summons elementals each turn. If you ignore them they'll kill you. If you shoot them you gonna run out of mana sooner or later (she has 999 manas and you have somewhat like 330-350).
Now this is how i won this battle:
Had 1300 elves, 2 enchanterers and 1x5 stacks of basilisks.
On turn 1 i cast slow and basilisks should stone curse titans and nagas (would be good if they curse genies too, but its almoust impossible). She blinds my elves and genies cast some spell.
On turn 2 i blind genies, she cant do anything now.
On turn 3 i cure elves. 1 basilisk blocks titans, everyone else surounds elves (to prevent her from teleporting troops next to them).
On turn 4 i was lucky cause my enchanterers casted bless, maybe i could win without bless, i'm not sure. I cast frenzy and elves kill more than a half of her titans. Now its a crucial moment. In my case she implosioned my elves (AI tends to use directly damaging spells when he feels he's loosing a battle). Then i finished titans on turn 5 with another frenzy and moved 1 basilisk over a titan's body to prevent her from casting sacrifice.
Then she teleported her nagas and killed my elves in 1 hit but it was already too late. I blinded nagas and ressurected elves, the rest is easy and obvious.
Once again a very luck based fight. Turn 4 is critical, cause she can cast many different spells - if she blinds my elves instead of doing something else... well probably you can still win by casting berserk on nagas to finish titans off but i'm not sure. It took me a lot of time to win this battle.
About screens, the only screen i got is a moment right after this battle - as a proof that i actually done it. Here it is
[URL=http://radikal.ru/F/s48.radikal.ru/i119/1302/fb/3d307eef4c00.jpg.html][/URL]
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