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The point is that I want to know the storyline but have been very bussy lately and don't have time to play, and hardly find time to enter here. So pls spoil.
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Darkavatar
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Overlord Divine
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The point is that I want to know the storyline but have been very bussy lately and don't have time to play, and hardly find time to enter here. So pls spoil.
Here is the prehistory:
In the beginning, there was nothing but the eternal Void. The Void spawned the Cosmic Egg, which, upon hatching, released two Primordial Dragons — Asha, the Dragon of Order, and Urgash, the Dragon of Chaos. (While Asha is a dragon, she is known in many forms by different cults; for example, the Necromancers worship a spider goddess form of Asha.)
Asha created the Earth, Ashan, and the six Elemental Dragons, among them Elrath(Haven), the Dragon of Light, Sylath(Stronghold), the Dragon of Air, Arkath(Fortress), the Dragon of Fire, Sylanna(Sylvan), the Dragon of Earth, Malassa(Dungeon), the Dragon of Darkness, and Shalassa(Naga), the Dragon of Water. They were worshipped by the mortal races of Ashan, while Urgash was the deity of the demon race.
Eventually, a war between the demons and the races of Ashan broke out. Sar-Elam, the first of the Wizards and the first mortal to reach Asha's conscience, sacrificed himself to seal the demons in an underground prison known as Sheogh. For his deeds, Sar-Elam became known as the Seventh Dragon, despite not actually being a dragon, and the year of his sacrifice started the modern calendar of Ashan, becoming known as the year 0 YSD, where YSD stands for "Year of the Seventh Dragon".
Almost at the same time as the Wizard faction, the Falcon Empire was founded by Falcon the Great; at that time, Sylath was its primary deity instead of Elrath, who is worshipped in its modern counterpart, the Holy Griffin Empire or Haven. This order lasted for about forty years, until the Wars of Fire in 28-40 YSD - the first demon incursion. Most of the Angels, servants of the Dragon of Light, perished in the wars, and the remaining ones took refuge in the Empire. Eventually, in 48 YSD, Emperor Brian Falcon gave absolute power to the Church of the Dragon of Light, renaming the realm "Holy Falcon Empire".
The elf race, which also suffered a lot in the Wars of Fire, retreated to the remains of their forests, burnt away by the demons, and started restoring their homeland - a process that took more than two centuries, eventually ending in 260 YSD, resulting in the creation of their kingdom of Irollan.
The year 62 YSD laid foundation Necromancers, who were originally one faction of the Wizards that seceded during the Schism of the Seven, a split between the followers of Sar-Elam; another faction went to the southern desert, where the Seven Cities, the first kingdom of Magic, was established. Necromancy itself, however, was not discovered until much later, namely 461 YSD. In this sense, the Necromancers are among the three younger political powers in Ashan, along with the dark elves and the orcs.
[edit] Later history: dark elves and necromancers
Shortly after experiments in necromancy began in the Seven Cities, the orcs - originally created by the Wizards to fight the demon army, but then enslaved - started a rebellion against their masters, which lasted from 467 YSD to 504 YSD reached the borders of the Holy Falcon Empire. As a replacement for the orcs, the Wizards eventually (in 512 YSD) created several beast-people species, including minotaurs, centaurs and harpies.
528 YSD marked yet another major schism in the history of Ashan, when Tuidhana, the ruler of a border territory between Irollan and the Falcon Empire, declared independence from the elven kingdom. This move proved almost disastrous 540 YSD|twelve years later, as Tuidhana's kingdom was caught in the middle of the War of the Bitter Ashes, a conflict between Irollan and the Empire. In a desperate attempt to ensure their own survival, Tuidhana's elves struck a deal with the Faceless, establishing a cult of the Dragon of Darkness, Malassa, becoming dark elves and retreating to the underground.
Eventually, the independence of the dark elves was recognized in 548 YSD by both the Empire, which paid extensive reparations to both elven factions, and Irollan. The newfound peace was called the "Peace of New Spring", but it did not last long. In 566 YSD, a massive fire consumed Syris Thalla, the capital of Irollan, killing the High King and Brythigga, the Mother of Elves. This day became known as the "Day of the Tears of Fire".
The dark elves were offered with an ultimatum: to be exiled, or to face death. Tuidhana chose the latter, not willing to leave her kingdom, but most of her people chose exile. Later, after it was discovered that the fire was set by a demon spy, the elves of Irollan declared amnesty on their dark brethren and offered them to return, but their apology was refused.
The last major faction to emerge in Ashan were the Necromancers, openly practising their dark magic in the Seven Cities, whose numbers were growing throughout 610-660 YSD. The coexistence of the Necromancers and the Wizards continued for over a century, until, in 751 YSD, a civil war broke out, lasting until 770 YSD, destroying the Seven Cities and devastating the land. Thus began the modern period of history.
[edit] Modern age
It was during the civil war in the Seven Cities that King Vaniel of Irollan died, succeeded by Alaron. The new king broke the elves' political isolation and re-established contacts with other factions, as far as aiding the Wizards in their wars against the Necromancers. Eventually, the Wizards won the civil war, and in 771 YSD, the Necromancers were banished to the inhospitable valley of Heresh.
The Wizards then established the second kingdom of magic, the Silver League, which housed the survivors of the Seven Cities. The Necromancers of Heresh attempted to take revenge during the War of the Broken Staff in 813-822 YSD, attacking the Silver League, but the Wizards emerged victorious, invading and ruining the Necromancer kingdom.
Soon, in 843 YSD, yet another eclipse followed, and the demons once again roamed free through the lands of the Holy Falcon Empire. This time, they stormed and captured the capital city of Talonguard; the ruling Falcon dynasty was all but destroyed, and Duke Ivan Griffin seized the throne, founding the Griffin dynasty and renaming the Empire itself "Holy Griffin Empire".
Relative peace lasted until the next eclipse in 951 YSD, which started the War of the Gray Alliance. By the combined might of the Griffin Empire (led by Alexei IV), Irollan (led by Alaron) and the Silver Cities (led by Cyrus), the escaping demons were driven back to Sheogh. Alexei, eager to defeat the Demon Sovereign Kha-Beleth, followed the demons through the closing gate between the two worlds, but Cyrus stayed behind, believing his attack to be suicidal. Alaron, doubting, eventually decided to follow Cyrus and not intervene, and Alexei's forces, left without support, perished. In an act of disapproval, the mighty Emerald Dragons left Irollan that very day, weakening the kingdom.
A part of Alexei's soul, however, was recovered and encased by Tieru into an artifact known as the Heart of the Griffin. It was given to Alexei's young son Nicolai Griffin, who remained on the throne until 969 YSD, when, during an unexpected eclipse, the demons interrupted the wedding ceremony of Nicolai and Isabel Greyhound, triggering what is now known as Queen Isabel's War.
Here is the story of heroes 5:
[edit] Haven Campaign
An unexpected demon invasion interrupts the wedding of King Nicolai of the Griffin Empire and Lady Isabel, and soon the forces of the Griffin Empire are at war with the demons of Sheogh. With Nicolai at the front, Isabel is sent, along with her the abbess Beatrice, to the Summer Palace, where they are guarded by Godric, the King's uncle. After much persuasion, Isabel persuades Godric to let her take part in the war rather than wait. Godric is to go to the Silver Cities to seek help from Archmage Cyrus, while Beatrice will go to Irollan to get help from Elven King Alaron. Eventually, Isabel raises an army, but when Beatrice returns to lead her to the Elven reinforcements, Beatrice reveals that she is Biara; a succubus, and assistant to a demon lord, Agrael. Although Isabel escapes Agrael with Godric's help, they are too late to prevent Agrael from killing Nicolai, who, with his dying breath, proclaims Isabel to be Queen in his stead.
[edit] Inferno Campaign
Although Nicolai is dead, Agrael has failed in his mission of capturing Isabel, and attempts to flee the wrath of Kha-Beleth, the Demon Sovereign. Intending to overthrow Kha-Beleth, he decides to capture the Heart of the Griffin, which Nicolai had used in their battle. When he reaches the mausoleum, he is met by a mysterious Elven apparition, Tieru, who reveals that the Demon Sovereign is attempting to summon an apocalyptic Demon Messiah. He instructs Agrael to meet him in the Dragonmist Islands, which can only be reached through the Elven land of Irollan. After a long march and battles with the Elves, Agrael meets Tieru, who tells him about the War of the Eclipse, where Kha-Beleth was banished, as well as the Demon Messiah's links to Isabel. Agrael admits that he questioned Kha-Beleth's plans because he has fallen for Isabel, and Tieru tells him that he must be purified of demonic corruption with the Rite of True Nature. Agrael agrees, and during the ritual, Biara attempts to steal the Heart, only to be sent back to Sheogh.
[edit] Necropolis Campaign
Meanwhile, in the Griffin Empire, Isabel's position as Queen is challenged by Archbishop Randall and other local lords, who begin a civil war. A mysterious necromancer, Markal, assists Isabel in her fight against the rebels. Markal reveals himself to be the former advisor to Nicolai's mother, Queen Fiona, and offers to help Isabel revive her dead husband with the Vampire's Garment. Although Isabel trusts him and helps him to gather its pieces, Godric is less gullible, warning Isabel that Markal had been banished years ago for his necromancy and treachery. Isabel ignores him, and as she and Markal gather the artifacts, she destroys former alliances with the Elves and the Wizards, whose leader, Cyrus, is killed by Markal for one of the artifacts. When Godric can take it no more, he keeps the last artifact and barricades himself in the Wizard city of Hikm. Markal retaliates by kidnapping his daughter as blackmail, and later defeats Godric, who is imprisoned. Isabel and Markal then begin their march to the Hall of Heroes.
[edit] Dungeon Campaign
In the Dark Elven nation of Ygg-Chall, Clan Shadowbrand is holding a tournament to choose their new leader. An unknown warlock, Raelag, participates and wins, becoming the Clanlord, and now seeks to unite the clans into a single state. With the help of another warlock, Shadya, he assimilates the other clans, except Clan Soulscar, who is discovered to be in alliance with the demons. Raelag then discovers that the Demon Sovereign has sent a demon lord, Veyer, to capture Queen Isabel. Arriving at the outskirts of Sheogh, Raelag routs Veyer and asks Isabel to follow him to Tieru, where she can be purged of the Sovereign's influence. Markal, however, convinces her otherwise and they continue on to the Hall of Heroes.
[edit] Sylvan Campaign
When Nicolai is resurrected, Isabel realises to her horror that the spell has damned his soul, leaving him as a vampire. Stunned by this revelation, she breaks down and Markal seizes the chance to declare himself ruler of the Griffin Empire.
When the Elven king, Alaron, takes in Griffin refugees, Markal's forces begin to raid Irollan, and the diplomat Findan is sent to stop the raids. He is later tasked to find the Emerald Dragons to turn the tide on the Undead, but returns to find Syris Thalla, the capital, besieged. Alaron dies in the siege, but tells Findan to seek Tieru. After defending the capital, Findan travels to the Dragonmist Islands, but is too late to stop Biara from killing Tieru, although the latter's spirit tells Findan about the Kha-Beleth's plan; the Demon Sovereign has placed a mark on Isabel so that she will bear the Demon Messiah. He also instructs Findan to get a scroll back from Biara, which, if used by a powerful mage, will be able to stop Kha-Beleth. The only such mage would be Zehir, the son of Cyrus.
After pursuing Biara and getting the scroll back, Findan returns to Irollan, where the Elves are now on the verge of victory, but now face a terrible foe in Nicolai, who is now a Vampire Lord. With the help of phoenixes, Findan 'brings the dawn', and puts Nicolai to rest. He then sets off to find Zehir.
[edit] Academy Campaign
With the Silver Cities shattered by Markal's invasion, the new Archmage Zehir seeks to liberate the Wizard nation from the grip of the necromancers and avenge his father, Cyrus. Swiftly, he rallies his troops and retakes the Silver Cities, before forging an alliance with Findan and Godric (whom they release). The trio manage to defeat Markal, and burn his body to ensure he cannot return as a lich. Determined to rid Isabel of demonic influence, they ally themselves with Raelag and Shadya and successfully get to Isabel, preparing to do the Rite of True Nature.
However, Shadya then reveals herself to be Biara in disguise, and seizes Isabel before fleeing to Sheogh, where the Demon Sovereign waits. The heroes travel there as well, and in an epic battle, they defeat the Demon Sovereign, who escapes with Biara. With Isabel free, they then return to their respective countries.
As Godric and Isabel survey the damage in their homeland, Isabel's eyes light red. It appears the demons are not quite defeated yet...
Here is the story of Hammers of Fate:
The story continues some time after the story in Heroes of Might and Magic V. Queen Isabel has returned to her empire, but the people speak of a changed queen, not the same one that went to Sheogh. Fryeda, the daughter of Godric, is sent of to stop "rebels" as Queen Isabel calls them. Freyda is tasked to retrieve the young prince "Andrei", and is sent on a chase to the home of the Dwarves, Tor-Hrall. There, Laszlo, Freyda's ally attacks the Dwarves while Freyda is at council with them. However, because of Wulfstan's kind heart, Freyda is let free. From this point on, Freyda no longer fights for her queen. She learns that her father has been kidnapped and rallies the help of Duncan, who assist her in getting a vessel to safely transport her to the empire.
The attack on Tor-Hrall leave the Dwarves slightly shaken. Wulfstan and his brother Rolf have opposing views, and thus Rolf allies himself with the Queen, while Wulfstan fights his own battles. As a result of this civil strife, Wulfstan ends up facing many Dwarves, however, plenty of those Dwarves tend to rally to his aid after realizing their own mistakes. As a result, Wulfstan's influence amongst the Dwarves grows. Eventually Wulfstan teams up with his friend Duncan and together they set a distraction to ensure the safety of Freyda's voyage. The city of Tor-Hrall is now recaptured in the name of Wulfstan. Soon after that, Laszlo is killed.
Ylaya is a Keeper of the Law and is told by the Daughter of Malasara to find out what rituals are being practiced by the Soluscar clan that do not heed Malasara herself. When Ylaya is discovered, she flees and seeks one who has been gone for many a month - Raelag. She finds him with Isabel and discovers that this Isabel is the real Isabel and the Queen is actually the succubus Biara, who has been spared on several occasions already. After making an alliance with Black Dragons, Ylaya brings down a great portion of the Soluscar clan, and the Dark Elf clans can thus be temporarily at peace. While that peace lasts, Ylaya and Raelag have one less enemy. Before the final battle, Raelag splits off from the group to achieve something that is to help in the war. Ylaya, Freyda, Duncan, Wulfstan and Isabel all meet up and combine forces to capture Tor-Hrall once and for all. The King Tolghar is killed during the battle and the Empire's forces are seen retreating.After the climactic battle, it is revealed that Archbishop Alaric will still serve Biara. Raelag is seen talking with Tieru about something in the east and it is assumed that this is a direct reference to the Orcs, who will be presented in Tribes of the East.
Here is the story of Tribes of the East:
The story begins with the character Quroq, an Orc, who takes over a renegade Haven city and begins to introduce worry upon the false Queen Isabel. The queen sends forth her most trusted servant, the corrupted Archbishop Alaric to ward off the Orc invasion. The actual events that happen between this and the next time we see the Orcs are unknown though Quroq is killed by Alaric at some point. Meanwhile, the Necromancer Arantir is driven by his master Asha (who is the lady of the dead) to fight against the demonic corruption in the Haven cities. He meets up with a novice Necromancer named Ornella, introduced to him by Giovanni the vampire. With Ornella at his side, Arantir sets out towards the city of Flammschrein, the holy city which has been desecrated by the demon Orlando. After killing Orlando, Arantir visits the graves of Flammshrein where he frees a fragment of the true Queen Isabel's soul. Upon doing so, the succubus impostor who had been taking the place of the queen is revealed and she is forced to take over the city.
Biara (the Succubus) uses the Heart of the Griffin, an artifact that sends demons to their hell, as a portal to the Haven city after having corrupted the Heart of the Griffin by means of a dark ritual.
Arantir also meets with the Orcs and arranges an alliance via the Orc shaman Kujin. At the same time (as it is revealed later), the young Orc Gotai takes lead of the Orcs and hopes to crush the demons. In order to do so, however, he must brave many trials, the first of which is to gather the support of various tribes. To do so, Gotai sends Kujin, who manages to assemble an army of Orcs. Gotai then chooses to respect the soul of Kunyak, the greatest of the Orcs who lead them to freedom, by going to his burial place in a wizard city. After doing so, he avenges the death of Quroq by killing Alaric. It should be noted that Alaric was no longer fighting for the false queen when he attacked Gotai, for his final battle took place after Arantir performed the rite by which Biara was revealed. It is shown that Alaric had actually gone mad and hoped to kill all the Orcs believing that it was all just an illusion and he still was to follow the wishes of his master. Though Gotai offers for Alaric to die honorably, Alaric shows no sign of sanity in his final moments.
After the death of Alaric, Gotai and Kujin arrange a meeting with Zehir, who allies with them for their common causes. Zehir begins by traveling to the duthcies where he must help Duncan and Freyda fight off the demon influence. He does not participate in the fight directly, but he performs a rite that separates demons from humans. After this event, the followers of the false queen realize their mistake and instead join Zehir. After Freyda and Duncan manage to fight off the demons, they agree to help Zehir in the final battle.
Zehir then travels to the mines where Wulfstan rules. The Dwarves who are in constant feud, wish not to aid Zehir. Wulfstan, however, tells Zehir that if he manages to find Arkath, the fire god of the Dwarves, then maybe the Dwarves can ally and aid Zehir. After finding the portal to Arkath, Zehir is intercepted by Wulfstan's brother Rolf, who has become deranged and bloodlustful since his last appearance in the previous game. Rolf attacks Zehir who overcomes him. After this victory, Zehir, Wulfstan and Hangvul, the other faction of Dwarves, confront Arkath. Arkath announces that Wulfstan is to be king and that Hangvul must compensate for betraying him. So it is that the Dwarves ally and aid Zehir in the next battle.
Zehir then travels to Talonguard, the capitol city of the Haven faction, now overrun by demons. While he makes his way past the guards that defend the way to the city, Zehir's allies destroy the surrounding Inferno towns and blockade Biara, who has excaped on multiple occasions already. These allies also include Ylaya, who makes a deal with Zehir early in his travels in which she joins him under the circumstance that he destroy the troublesome Soulscar clan, which he does. After all other Inferno towns are destroyed, Zehir besieges Talonguard and after winning, allows for the true Queen Isabel to kill her. Though Biara proclaims she has done her job, the others know she is bluffing, and that the demons are just as badly wounded as the Haven faction. The conclusion also suggests that the Dwarves, Orcs, Wizards, and Dark Elves as well as presumably Elves and possibly Necromancers (for whom Arantir is spokesman) are also allies. In this situation, the demons are thoroughly outnumbered by seven factions (Haven is included) to 1, which actually makes 7 of the 8 factions of the game "good" factions.
All this text I have copied from wikipedia.
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What is it exactly we have created. It is "New World Order".
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Daystar
Honorable
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Back from the Dead
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posted February 13, 2008 10:30 PM |
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I am offended by your signature.
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posted February 14, 2008 07:52 AM |
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Well, good someone says they copied the text from another place  I remember Skullman(i think it was) copy/pasted from age of heroes to get a QP
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Darkavatar
Adventuring Hero
Overlord Divine
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posted February 14, 2008 08:17 AM |
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I am offended by your signature.
Sorry. I shall change.
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What is it exactly we have created. It is "New World Order".
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Overlord of Tililea
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posted February 14, 2008 09:21 AM |
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Oh, I see. Thnx. Though I think that necromancers wouldn't stay in long after the victory - it was all because they hate deamons too - not because they love the other guys. So let's say it's 6/8 factions good.
For goodness sake serpent, don't quote monstrous posts just for that
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posted February 24, 2008 12:22 PM |
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Cool , I was recently playing back hommV and HoF champaign just to know the story but was stuck due to some stupid bugs on HoF. Now I don't have to bother about it anymore.
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posted February 24, 2008 02:22 PM |
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I bumped into every single known bug when I played vanilla and hof. Tote was mostly clean until I gotai when crazy on the last level. It's worth it to play for the storyline instead of reading it here though. I can't explain why, it's just different.
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posted February 24, 2008 02:24 PM |
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I must have been lucky, I finished both unpatched and never met anything game-breaking.
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posted February 24, 2008 03:11 PM |
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Well destructive runemage without any destructive spells in a map without town on heroic , I have no clue how to beat it.
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Overlord Divine
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posted February 24, 2008 04:31 PM |
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Only so you all know: My post showed the most important events in the story, but if you want to know the lesser events, i suggest that you play.
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posted February 24, 2008 07:32 PM |
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OK. I never played Dark Messiah OMM, so could you tell me what it is???
Is it an orc? O_O
It is half human/half demon O_O
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posted February 24, 2008 08:24 PM |
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OK. I never played Dark Messiah OMM, so could you tell me what it is???
Is it an orc? O_O
It is half human/half demon O_O
Dark Messiah is a game. The charachter you are is a half man and half demon that have the powers to open sheogh or seal it, and he is the son of Isabel Greyhound and Kha-Beletth (Demon Sovereign). I also suggest that you play DM, because its a good game.
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posted February 24, 2008 10:17 PM |
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K. I know whose child he is... But I would like to know something more about him. Could you tell me please?
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Endless Revival
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posted February 24, 2008 10:27 PM |
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I too suggest that you play it. Otherwise check wikipedia.
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posted February 27, 2008 09:41 PM |
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I have a question.Can someone tell me who exactly is MAster Phenrig from Dark Messiah?A demon in disguise sent by Kha-Beleth ,or an human accolyte to demons?
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posted February 27, 2008 09:47 PM |
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I always wondered this too, but he may be a normal human since he want to bring the crystal to menelag, but he may be a demon to, or. Well, I dunno
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posted February 27, 2008 10:06 PM |
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I think I've played Dark Messiah for about 50 times and never got bored.Now I am playing it still.
There are some questions that I have
1.Who is Master Phenrig?
2.When exactly does the game take place?Is SAreth aging proces accelerated?(Do demons age faster than humans?)
3.If Arantir did find the Skull of Shadows then he set up traps and put zombies to guard it,and with the aid of his orc friends(Kujin)he posted an orc outpost on the island as well.So what Arantir was actually doing is searching for the Dark Messiah to kill him and get rid of him once and for all all those years from Tribes of the East to Dark Messiah.After he thought he had done that,he proceded in locking Kha-Beleth forever?
I know that in a conversation between two necromancers on board Menelags ship,one says:"And to think they thought they whiped us out 20 years ago".Is that in the time of Queen Isabels war?
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted February 28, 2008 12:18 AM |
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Ubi's writer had commented on those. The baby was given to demon cultists but it is heavily implied phenrig was one anyway.
Sareth is about 20 which is about how much time has passed since tribes.
Actually I don't think Arantir had found the skull, it would make no sense to keep in hidden in a vault. The vault was made by Sar Elam followers some eons ago. If he had he would have proceeded with the plan. Also don't forget that he needed the Shantiri crystal to get there which the necromancers began to look for in the beginning of dark messsiah. Finally Arantir never was after the dark messiah, it was Sareth that kept getting in his path.
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posted March 30, 2008 10:31 PM |
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The Demon Wars are finally over.
So, what is the YSD of the end of Zehir's Campaign and end of HoMM5's scripted story?
Should HoMM6 continue with newest and more technologically advanced human-like factions as of the start of 12th or 13th century YSD of this magnificently large world of Ashan?
Since, the Silver Cities are the great winners of all conflicts until the end of all wars within the whole wide world of Ashan and, possess the gunpowder based weaponry and quite impressive robotics constructs such as Steel Golems. Even advanced animal molecular biology creations throughout the last millenia of existence of Ashan.
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