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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Poll: Best magic school
Thread: Poll: Best magic school This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV / NEXT»
V3Z0W
V3Z0W


Hired Hero
Griffin Eternal.
posted November 21, 2007 10:22 PM

It's hard to do that indeed but it's still the same and anyways I was talking about a per total analisis for the Light Magic not for the ressurection spell.I just said that is the most powerful one-it's only my opinion I doesn't bother me if you have another.
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emilsn
emilsn


Legendary Hero
posted November 22, 2007 08:37 AM

Hmm... 30% vs 43% ... Light vs Dark ... The good guys always battles against massive odds, so i guess we win anyway... No cookies can help  the power of haste + Helmar + Endurance + eternal light + Deflect missiles! .. I win
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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted November 22, 2007 09:10 AM

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Hmm... 30% vs 43% ... Light vs Dark ... The good guys always battles against massive odds, so i guess we win anyway... No cookies can help  the power of haste + Helmar + Endurance + eternal light + Deflect missiles! .. I win
YeaH! Light will prevail!!

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Jabarkas
Jabarkas


Adventuring Hero
posted November 22, 2007 09:48 AM

Another Dark-magic voter.

Prefer offense ahead of defense. Sure, a frenzy or puppeteer might be cleansed... but that is still one turn where your opponent danced to your tune. Afterall, he didn't cast whatever spell or spells that he built his army on, but was instead forced to counter your spell.

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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted November 22, 2007 09:51 AM

Divine vengeance is quite offensive, isn´t it?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted November 22, 2007 10:40 AM

The 1/3 of the times that you will manage to get it
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V3Z0W
V3Z0W


Hired Hero
Griffin Eternal.
posted November 22, 2007 01:16 PM

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Hmm... 30% vs 43% ... Light vs Dark ... The good guys always battles against massive odds, so i guess we win anyway... No cookies can help  the power of haste + Helmar + Endurance + eternal light + Deflect missiles! .. I win
YeaH! Light will prevail!!


It's good to see that my bros are on my side.Light rullz!!
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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted November 22, 2007 01:21 PM
Edited by Cleave at 13:24, 22 Nov 2007.

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I can get phoenix by week 2, is that early enough? Note that I will not go for guild 5 unless I want to rush and not all maps have mines with at least one pile of resources near you but it is possible. Chance to get it is 50% which is not bad at all.


Sure, that's very reliable since 50% is not such bad odds. After all, provided you get enough resources and skip building dwellings for high tier creatures or defenses or even the capital you can pull it of during the first week. All you need is an Expert in Summoning (gotta love XP obelisks) and a bit of luck to get Conjure Phoenix and not Arcane Armour (not that good since you won't have that many creatures by week 2 with a shiny level 5 mage guild).

Oh and 35 mana points is nothing, especially if your main hero is a Necromancer or a Warlock (yeah, I'm being sarcastic).

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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted November 23, 2007 05:38 PM

Actually dark is 10x better suited to battling greater odds than light is. Currently 17dark 11light. Imagine a battlefield with us 17darks vs you poor light users. The whole thing would be over in a few turns after you all kill eachother.

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V3Z0W
V3Z0W


Hired Hero
Griffin Eternal.
posted November 23, 2007 09:22 PM

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Actually dark is 10x better suited to battling greater odds than light is. Currently 17dark 11light. Imagine a battlefield with us 17darks vs you poor light users. The whole thing would be over in a few turns after you all kill eachother.


What makes you so sure?You have no arguments.
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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted November 24, 2007 07:54 AM
Edited by roy-algriffin at 07:57, 24 Nov 2007.

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Actually dark is 10x better suited to battling greater odds than light is. Currently 17dark 11light. Imagine a battlefield with us 17darks vs you poor light users. The whole thing would be over in a few turns after you all kill eachother.


Well if the light users are inept, Then yes that will happen.
However puppet master is a high level spell, Frenzy will get teleported to hit you instead and theres always cleansing,cleansing,cleasing and thats not even counting anti-magic
However when your talking 17 vs 11 i mean its unfairly outnumbered, But they could win if the ATB mess goes their way

That being said theres lots of perks to counter dark, Literally im thinking 3-5 with dwarven luck as a top one. And if your even thinking a battlefield with massive amounts of creatures for 11 light users x 7 and 17 dark users x7 then the light ones will own if all the creatures are at slightly above standard for light
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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted November 24, 2007 06:28 PM

Since we're talking about cookies I don't think any arguments are valid.
Fresh cookies that have been laid out at night. With a cup of dark chocolaty magic mmmmmm!

As a minor note:
Cleansing is AOE, mass slow isn't.
Light has deflect missiles, dark has mass confusion which is much more effective.
I haven't forgotten about frenzy-->teleport but since you're wasting time trying to cleanse all these mass spells (or worse no cleansing and casting you mass spells) there's window of opportunity (and more dark heroes) to cast at will.


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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted November 25, 2007 07:09 AM

Well, there is one spell thats a stop gap against dark. Magical Immunity.
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HartZa
HartZa


Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
posted November 25, 2007 11:16 AM

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Well, there is one spell thats a stop gap against dark. Magical Immunity.


AND Light magic too. But Dark ones will win anyway

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oscarius
oscarius


Famous Hero
*sleepy*
posted November 30, 2007 03:15 PM

Dark!!
Dark and destructive is better when fighting creeps with little army.
But in really endgame only light and dark is good.
(Sure phenix good but against 500 pala nah, Destructive lose it importance in late game, unless yu´re a warlock)
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lfernandes
lfernandes


Hired Hero
posted November 30, 2007 05:03 PM

My vote goes for Dark... I like destructive... it is good, but only playing warlock, I guess...

And weakness, suffering, slow, etc... are pretty good with any hero

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Lord_Evil
Lord_Evil


Famous Hero
Evil lolcat
posted November 30, 2007 05:10 PM

Dark magic is the best after that Light magic and then the rest.
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Moonlith
Moonlith


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
posted November 30, 2007 06:12 PM

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Wraiths are raised by raise dead and the latter is a case of unit resurrection which is a totally different case.


How come?The Archangel's ressurection is the same as the spell wich can be learned by a hero.


Wrong.

The Archangel's resurrection spell is completely different from the hero's. For one, it resurrects 100HP for each Archangel, and for another, it doesn't reduce the unit's HP by 10% like resurrection does.

I still say Dark kicks Light's ass any time

- Light is only effective when you have a large army, whereas dark is effective any time, no matter your opponent's army. Ever seen that clip where one with only 6 cerberi killed off 478 orso Archi Devils by using Dark Magic? Not a chance Light Magic can do that.
- Mass Confusion = ownage, cleansing only has an area effect.
- Frenzy / Puppetmaster force you to counter instead of buff you troops. If not, your buffed troops will annihalate themselves.
- Magical Immunity is a joke. Sure, cant puppet anymore, but you can't buff them anymore either. Magical Immunity is in that sense designed for might heroes.
- Resurrection won't be a life saver, it weakens your troops.
- Mass Decay is awesome x3

I'm not saying Light Magic is bad Just that Dark kicks its ass any day. At least in my opinion.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted November 30, 2007 06:19 PM

This one needs a light @ss kicking to come to his senses
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted November 30, 2007 06:22 PM

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Magical Immunity is a joke.


No it isn't.  It completely destroys inferno.

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