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posted July 24, 2008 05:27 PM |
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I don't think that "being treated like a person" gave anyone enough money to treat their sick kids, or filled their stomachs. "Being treated like a person" will not shield you from the rain, nor remove the rat infestation from your basement. "Being treated like a person" is nice, but if you want to be treated like a person, join some club. Jobs are for money.
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posted July 24, 2008 05:40 PM |
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Obviously you used extreme approaches, but you forgot to mention that cool new expensive car, or brand new TV, or a computer upgrade every 3 months... 
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posted July 24, 2008 05:42 PM |
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posted July 24, 2008 11:37 PM |
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The sheer fact you are rather treated as a number for more money instead of treated as a human which (according to you) leads to lower paychecks, is clear evidence of my statement that Western, materialistic Societies create disgusting mentalities.
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posted July 25, 2008 12:41 AM |
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posted July 25, 2008 12:53 AM |
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Uh, because you have no respect for your employees? Because you treat them like numbers? Because you have no dignity or honor, just material goals?
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posted July 25, 2008 12:56 AM |
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No, I mean if you're an employee.
And why is it that when workers strike for better wages they're considered to be right, but when CEOs raise their wages they're considered scum?
edit: "considered to be right", not "considered"
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posted July 25, 2008 01:13 AM |
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And why is it that when workers strike for better wages they're considered
Dunno, media attention?  beats me really
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posted July 25, 2008 02:10 AM |
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What's so disgusting about wanting to live better?
The disgusting thing is that you seem to think more money / matter = better life. It's not a matter of opinion here, it's a BAD outlook on life, fact.
There is more to life than just materialism. You seem to think a materialistic outlook on life is all that makes humans so great and wonderous and amazing.... It's disgusting and arrogant.
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posted July 25, 2008 02:11 AM |
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The disgusting thing is that you seem to think more money / matter = better life.
Maybe because it's true? Just look at America, and compare it to Sub-Saharan Africa. Don't tell me they live better!
Of course, I'm not saying that money is the only thing that matters, but it's far from being unimportant.
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posted July 25, 2008 02:55 AM |
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Maybe because it's true? Just look at America, and compare it to Sub-Saharan Africa. Don't tell me they live better!
I'd dare say many tribes in Africa live better when I compare their MENTALITY to retarded emo-geeks and spoiled brats that are the products of a western society like America. You don't see Anorexic teens or people like Paris Hilton there.
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posted July 25, 2008 02:59 AM |
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What do emos and anorexics have to do with Western culture? I mean, unfortunately they exist, but I am a proponent of Western culture, but I am neither an emo nor an anorexic. Although I suppose that the perception of Western culture has changed. I'm talking about real Western culture, before the emos and post-modernists took over. I'm talking about the European culture of the era just before World War I.
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posted July 25, 2008 03:36 AM |
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I'd dare say many tribes in Africa live better when I compare their MENTALITY to retarded emo-geeks and spoiled brats that are the products of a western society like America. You don't see Anorexic teens or people like Paris Hilton there.
Yeah, it's not like the mentality of people in Africa is responsible for the AIDS epidemic, or warlords, or genocides, or the trampling of womens' rights, or.....
Anorexia is so much worse than genocide.
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posted July 25, 2008 03:54 AM |
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As if America IS a democracy? LOL!
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posted July 25, 2008 01:42 PM |
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Well SOME western people CAN and ARE emo, for whatever reasons. I'm not saying all are, but you see there are some considerations, without going to extremes like mvass always likes to (not that it proves any point really). Usually the richer you are, the more arrogant you are, and the more you have, the more you want, without being more happy
What's the point in working to always get more, because once you have a lot you are bored too easily and want more and more? It's a bad mentality really 
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posted July 25, 2008 05:40 PM |
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Moonlith:
Well, the US is technically a representative democracy, but it could use a lot of improvements.
What kind of democracy uses as ridiculous system as the Electoral College?
What kind of democracy doesn't use some kind of proportional representation?
What kind of democracy can there be when voters are so flagrantly lead by the media and religious organizations?
What kind of democracy can there be when efforts like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are credible?
What kind of democracy has such uninformed voters?
What kind of democracy has torture centers like in Guntanamo Bay?
There can be a great deal of improvement. But technically the US is a democracy most of the time, since whoever a plurality of voters vote for gets elected.
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Usually the richer you are, the more arrogant you are, and the more you have, the more you want, without being more happy
Actually, there was some study, I don't where it was, but it showed that rich people were happier in general.
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posted July 25, 2008 05:42 PM |
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Well, the US is technically a representative democracy, but it could use a lot of improvements.
What kind of democracy uses as ridiculous system as the Electoral College?
What kind of democracy doesn't use some kind of proportional representation?
What kind of democracy can there be when voters are so flagrantly lead by the media and religious organizations?
What kind of democracy can there be when efforts like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are credible?
What kind of democracy has such uninformed voters?
What kind of democracy has torture centers like in Guntanamo Bay?
There can be a great deal of improvement. But technically the US is a democracy most of the time, since whoever a plurality of voters vote for gets elected.
It's called a human democracy
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Actually, there was some study, I don't where it was, but it showed that rich people were happier in general.
Please, tests on humans for me are less than 50% reliable almost all times. Not only that, but "happiness" is not by itself that concrete either. I don't place that much faith in such "studies", regardless of how good intentions the researches have here 
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posted July 25, 2008 10:57 PM |
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But technically the US is a democracy most of the time, since whoever a plurality of voters vote for gets elected.
American Presidents are mere puppets to give stupid people the illusion they are living in a democracy
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posted July 25, 2008 11:09 PM |
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TheDeath:
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It's called a human democracy
Come on! Some of those mistakes are not "inherent human qualities". Certaiinly some are difficult to fix (such as voter education), but others, like the Electoral College, really aren't.
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Not only that, but "happiness" is not by itself that concrete either.
Well, if people consider themselves happy, then they are.
Moonlith:
Well, one can view Bush that way, perhaps, and some of the 19th century Presidents, but certainly not all of them are pupppets.
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