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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: The Caesars tournament 2008
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted July 03, 2009 02:35 PM
Edited by infinitus at 14:37, 03 Jul 2009.

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Yeah, Fiur created hardcore version specially for the occasion to make it appealing for the Finals.

Sound very bad idea to me. Another modified map right before used in Caesars ... For this important event need 100% tested map, not beta map. Using beta maps in final of most important Heroes 5 competition  leads to big drama, examples - SQ vs Strider drama, Elit wand tragedy , etc ...
Hourglass or Genesis is solid choice for this event ...
P.S. Of cos 2m random realm is the best choice
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posted July 03, 2009 03:48 PM

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Yeah, Fiur created hardcore version specially for the occasion to make it appealing for the Finals.

Sound very bad idea to me. Another modified map right before used in Caesars ... For this important event need 100% tested map, not beta map. Using beta maps in final of most important Heroes 5 competition  leads to big drama, examples - SQ vs Strider drama, Elit wand tragedy , etc ...
Hourglass or Genesis is solid choice for this event ...
P.S. Of cos 2m random realm is the best choice


I dont like to intervene but... since I've worked a bit with the editor and made a "few" maps... to call that version of the map beta well  just bull****

and I've made my last map.......
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 03, 2009 03:50 PM

Infinitus apparently has not paid attention to how many versions it has been through. Hey so we can look forward to one more map in the near future?
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infinitus


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posted July 03, 2009 04:13 PM
Edited by infinitus at 16:32, 03 Jul 2009.

TW have also a lot of versions, still wand problem was bad surprise for Elit In my opinion map can be played in Caesars after at least 20 TOH games. Any modification of map can bring not only enhancements but also new bags and new imbalances ... Caesars are not the right place for experiments ...
I sure Giants are good map, as any other Fiur map, but using modified version of map influenced by one of finalist look not very good ...
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infinitus
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posted July 10, 2009 09:14 AM

The Caesars tournament 2008 is dead ?
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Elvin
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posted July 10, 2009 10:10 AM

Ves should probably force them to play one and save time. A year ago
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted July 10, 2009 12:11 PM

As I understand then now we are waiting for the map for the first game from Ves. Perhaps Jinxer and Fiur might help

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Towerlord
Towerlord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted July 10, 2009 12:39 PM

Why don't you play 2 games on Hourglass, 2 games on Twilight and in the end 1 game on random, if still necesary. Of course, you can also mix them ( like 1 Hg , 1 tw , 1 hg , 1 tw ).
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


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posted July 10, 2009 02:07 PM

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Why don't you play 2 games on Hourglass, 2 games on Twilight

Because neither of us want these maps. Besides, look at report statistics here:

Hourglass
Firedragon 74 games - Strider 0 games

Twilight
Firedragon 2 games - Strider 5 games

I have absolutely no desire or time to play-test HG. The best choice is as described several posts above by Ves - either unkown map of mutually familiar.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted July 10, 2009 02:27 PM

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Why don't you play 2 games on Hourglass, 2 games on Twilight

Because neither of us want these maps. Besides, look at report statistics here:

Hourglass
Firedragon 74 games - Strider 0 games

Twilight
Firedragon 2 games - Strider 5 games

I have absolutely no desire or time to play-test HG. The best choice is as described several posts above by Ves - either unkown map of mutually familiar.


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My clan have not only most points but have most total games too. So we are helped alot for activity and support new ppl. For example AL did alot games with Kispagat when he start in toh. In this time all refused to play him. Now compare it with 50 games total from Strider for all time. I don't want to comment him personal...but he is not model.
I can understand if Ves decide do not give any reward but CANT understand why he will give reward on Strider and not us. It's simple not fair to all community.

P.S.
Now we have two rewarded peoples. Most honourable and most dishonour Balance in rewards


Now you have longest Caesar in ToH and all clan turnament season 2 is dead. Keep support inactive ppl and give them prizes.
Lets see if they can finish Ceasar2008 before 2010

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Towerlord
Towerlord


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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted July 10, 2009 02:56 PM

well ... I considered TW your best known map , since you played it recently and with succes, and you mentioned he doesnt want it earlier.

what i meant was favourite map vs. favourite map(or most played map) ... 2 games each... so you could go for Dead Man's lake or something instead ?!
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted July 13, 2009 07:37 AM

firedragon emailed me that I can pick the map for this Caesar's finals.  Strider:  Shall I go ahead and do so?
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted July 13, 2009 08:48 AM

Yes, Ves. Please, do so. Below is the quote about map selection criteria.

If that doesn't take too much of your time, pick a large map (in terms of final around week 4-5) as that is the mutual agreement with Firedragon. I'm sure that Jinxer knows all about TOH maps and might consult on the longevity of any.

Thx

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Why don't you play 2 games on Hourglass, 2 games on Twilight

Because neither of us want these maps. Besides, look at report statistics here:

Hourglass
Firedragon 74 games - Strider 0 games

Twilight
Firedragon 2 games - Strider 5 games

I have absolutely no desire or time to play-test HG. The best choice is as described several posts above by Ves - either unkown map of mutually familiar.

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Jinxer
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posted July 13, 2009 08:06 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 20:08, 13 Jul 2009.

I still vote " DarkRealm "  

Even tho FireDragon claims to have played it 2 times.. that is not enough to be considered an advantage. Just my 2 cents
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Fraudatio
Fraudatio


Famous Hero
posted July 14, 2009 01:55 PM

In Favour of Dark Realm is also the fact that one can watch the opponent from time to time, so that we MAYBE (not that I would put a single penny on it) could avoid some drama.

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
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Endless Revival
posted July 14, 2009 01:58 PM

That is inevitable
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted July 14, 2009 11:53 PM

Well neither player has had a game with DarkRealm, so it can be a good map for them.  Any counter-arguments?
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Jinxer
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posted July 15, 2009 03:20 AM
Edited by Jinxer at 03:28, 15 Jul 2009.

I think only arguement that might be... is that FireDragon Admitted to Strider that he tested DarkRealm 2 times that was not reported for TOH so it didnt show up in his Maps page.

But I am MORE THEN SURE that Strider will want time to do homework studying on map regardless.  Besides 2 times testing on map is far from a serious advantage. Just means FireDragon gets 2-3 days off of doing his homework since he is already done it.  


*** And I will be available in MSN for any map Questions....And More then willing to help the 2 finalists out.
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted July 15, 2009 07:05 AM
Edited by Strider_HL at 07:07, 15 Jul 2009.

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Instead he changed the subject to Dark Realm that i had mentioned before. On May 28 when i got desperate and proposed Dark Realm again he claimed that he has played it many times and it won't be fair to me. Interesting hehe

As you can see then i was fine with this map long time ago even if Fire had played more than 2 times off the record.

All in all, i think that Ves has made a fair choice

I know that Fire plays a lot on Ubi server. I'd like to play all The Caesars Final games there.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted July 15, 2009 04:11 PM

Lets final DRAMA begin
Have full chips+beer set for it

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