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Aculias
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posted December 21, 2010 05:35 PM |
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The more i read MVass comments, the more i think MVass does not even know the female body!
I think he read about women & how scary then can be,so he decided to buy a blowup doll then date a real GF.
Got bored then Broke up 
That right hand must really be strong now, hey MVass?
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JollyJoker
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posted December 21, 2010 05:48 PM |
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God, I hate these infantile male macho jokes at the expense of people whose only fault is not to brag with fictional sexual adventures and just keep to the simple facts.
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JoonasTo
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posted December 21, 2010 05:57 PM |
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The more i read MVass comments, the more i think MVass does not even know the female body!
I think he read about women & how scary then can be,so he decided to buy a blowup doll then date a real GF.
Got bored then Broke up
That right hand must really be strong now, hey MVass?
I bet Mvass likes to even out his weaknesses and his ambidexterous by now. 
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posted December 21, 2010 07:34 PM |
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DF:
I haven't had any girlfriends since then, though I wouldn't say that's due to lack of "luck". I could probably get one the same way I got my last one if I wanted to - but that's not what I want.
Acu:
Huh?
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selcy
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posted December 22, 2010 01:04 AM |
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Mrs Palmer and her five friends lol.
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Fauch
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posted December 22, 2010 02:30 AM |
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I think mvass is quite clever on that point. you could do like doomforge and date hundreds of girls, but that would most likely only lead to intense frustration.
I do not want to search a girlfriend either. being alone isn't painful in any way. but thinking about it, trying to find ways to solve the "problem" is.
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posted December 22, 2010 05:04 AM |
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Mvass himself is the problem. It's not that he has an idea not to go and date hundreds of women like Doomforge, I honestly believe that he can't. He sees love as some sort of theory that needs to be researched about. Reading his posts it just seems like all Mvass has ever done is read up on it in books. It's not that hard to just go up to a girl and start talking to them and possibly evolving into a relationship. You don't need to try some stupid sort of Pillar Theory or anything. Just talking to them normally is a start. The way you are now Mvass, you will never get anybody and it was proven when you had that brief relationship. YOU are the problem, not others. I don't mean to be offensive or anything but yeah, you do have no idea about relationships and women in general.
This is just the way that I see things based upon what you write. It's just that you seem to me to be very socially awkward around women in that you have no idea what to say or what to do that is normal for most other people but instead have to make something and call it a Pillar Theory. Like I said, that's just what I gather from what I read. It may not necessarily be the case but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
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mvassilev
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posted December 22, 2010 05:53 AM |
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I don't think you're right, but I can see why you'd think that.
Let's remember how I got my first girlfriend. I went to a party, talked to her, left together, etc. Are you suggesting I couldn't do the same thing again? I definitely could. But I won't, because I know that someone similar to my ex would be near the upper end of the girls I could get at that party, and if that's the case, why should I bother? I might as well not have broken up with my ex if I wanted something like that. But that's not what I want.
I could go up and talk to some girl, but why would I? It's like throwing darts at a dartboard. I'd rather not have a girlfriend than have one I don't like, and I know I wouldn't like what I would get with that method. (Not to mention approaching girls with the ultimate intent of dating them seems to be rather strange and somewhat creepy to me. If I turn the chessboard around and think about what I'd think if a girl approached me like that, I don't find that idea particularly appealing.)
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Aculias
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posted December 22, 2010 06:07 AM |
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Let's remember how I got my first girlfriend.
At the party store. Blow ups are priced nicely I hear
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Are you suggesting I couldn't do the same thing again? I definitely could. Quote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I actually did laugh when i read that one LOL.
Almost as funny as hearing that you actually went to a party 
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mvassilev
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posted December 22, 2010 06:39 AM |
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Surprising as it may seem, I went to a party. I didn't enjoy the experience and wouldn't go to another one, but I did go to one.
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1910
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posted December 22, 2010 06:58 AM |
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That's the point in talking to them? If you don't talk to people then how could you possibly know if you will like them or not? That's the starting point of all relationships:
Talking. How do you judge if someone is what you're looking for? Looks or something else? And you went to a party? Big deal. That's not the only way you meet people you know? You go out, you socialise and by going out that doesn't mean it's limited to just parties. lol
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mvassilev
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posted December 22, 2010 07:14 AM |
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I understand that talking to people is how you get to know them, but you don't just randomly walk up to random people and talk to them. Nor do you walk up to girls with "Maybe I want to date them" already in mind. How do I judge if someone is what I'm looking for? By knowing them and by knowing what I want. That's why it's important to know people, which is a major component of Pillar Theory.
And of course parties aren't the only way to meet people. In fact, they're one of the worst (IMO).
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1910
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posted December 22, 2010 07:20 AM |
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How do you judge if somebody is what you're looking for? Like I said, by talking to them. Of course you don't randomly go up to them. If you're in College then that's one chance to talk to girls who may be in your class. It's really not that hard. That's how I met my first girlfriend. It didn't work well but that was more due to her weird behaviour than any fault of my own. We didn't meet at any party, we just talked all the time. That's how it should work. Not with any Pillar Theory or anything.
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posted December 22, 2010 07:26 AM |
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I agree, for the most part. You find out what people are like by talking to them in everyday life. You get to know them. Then you apply Pillar Theory as one of the factors to see if you should like them romantically.
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1910
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posted December 22, 2010 07:29 AM |
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No you do not apply Pillar Theory. There's no theory involved. You gradually get closer to them (if it's working and you two are compatible). You don't apply anything. That's my point. It's just a feeling you get. If you think it'll work, that's where you ask them out. That's what most normal people do. I don't know why you have to think you have to apply anything. It's just a simple thing that most people have no trouble with. 
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posted December 22, 2010 08:01 AM |
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Mvass is entitled to his own perspectives on love and relationships. If he's content with his dating theories and his current relationship status, I see no point in bugging him at length about it. It shouldn't matter if you have more dating experience and success than he does. Trying to push the issue is akin to getting Elodin to turn atheist. It's not gonna happen, or at least not by anybody here. Just let time decide if Mvass needs to change his perspective.
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posted December 22, 2010 08:03 AM |
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It's a discussion. I'm not trying to push him into anything. I disagree with his views and want to know why he thinks in the way that he does. What's so wrong with that? If Mvass saw a problem in me talking to him about it or was annoyed by what I was saying then he should be the one to say what you just did, not you. I also know that he is entitled to his own perspectives and opinions but what's the harm in discussing them? Like I said, if he has a problem with that or is annoyed with me discussing it in the way I am (which it seems like he isn't) then he should say so, not you. Enough said.
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posted December 22, 2010 08:22 AM |
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You gradually get closer to them (if it's working and you two are compatible).
Yes, of course that's a necessary part of it. But it's a mistake to use emotions as a tool of cognition. "Just a feeling" may get you in the door, but that doesn't mean you'll stay there or enjoy it. You have to think about it rationally, too, or otherwise it's either a crush (and probably won't last since your feelings will fade after getting to know each other better) or you just happened to get lucky. Better to ask yourself: is the attraction only physical, or do I actually enjoy talking to this person? Do I enjoy being around this person? Do I like this person? (Intellectual and emotional compatibility remain after the initial passion dissipates.) Am I likely to continue to enjoy it, or will I lose interest? If you answer successfully, you do indeed properly value that person - and congratulations, you just used Pillar Theory.
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posted December 22, 2010 11:36 AM |
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Actually I think your "theory" is great... for women. Attractive women. And handsome men, but not as much.
Why?
Because the chance of being "noticed" without effort from your side is directly proportional to your physical attractiveness.
Sad truth. Also, being a woman helps since it's men who are socially "assumed" the initiators of romantic encounters, and not women.
So, if you are at a, say, party, being an attractive women, alone, there's a MASSIVE chance a guy will take a chance and try to pick you up.
Now, conjure an image of not very attractive guy standing next to a wall alone on a party. He can like, stand there forever. No girl will ever talk to him. heck, even if he's good looking, the chances aren't that great. (of course this doesn't mean it can't happen, only that it's pretty rare to happen)
I don't like this social stigma of men being "predators", but whatever, it works, and it successfully diminishes the probability of success with your attitude, friend.
Not that I think it's a bad attitude. After a clusterload of failure, I actually consider random dating bad. And random picking up even worse, unless your ego suffers and you need to boost it by trivial pickups of every women you can manage.
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posted December 22, 2010 11:48 AM |
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You know what's depressing? Hearing pick-up artists talk about women.
Also, love is sometimes like voluntarily chaining yourself to a retarded leper.
 Baby, don't hurt me, don't hurt me... No more...
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