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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: TOH CUP
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Strider_HL
Strider_HL


Famous Hero
posted October 28, 2008 06:20 PM

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In fact I was close to wake up my family and the whole neighbourhood with my Tarzan-shout at 1.30 AM

hehe knowing that it meant so much to you soothes my regrets about the game - winning both battles and then simply committing a suicide by wanting to spare garg stack

Take care

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted October 28, 2008 06:59 PM

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In fact I was close to wake up my family and the whole neighbourhood with my Tarzan-shout at 1.30 AM

hehe knowing that it meant so much to you soothes my regrets about the game - winning both battles and then simply committing a suicide by wanting to spare garg stack

Take care


Well, for me undeserved money is the best, thats why I  play on the lottary. And it seems sometimes I win

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted October 28, 2008 07:37 PM

Just cheked replays.
1. Strider play academy very well. Almost like me
2. Both battles Strider did better. Second battle he was extremly lucky from teren and Kispagat n00bnes to split dragons. If Kis know academy power he will surrender 1st battle when he has 20 dragons!
3. You never can be sure how game will end befor its realy end.
4. So far i'm happy Strider loss game like it. Now he can understand how i was feel after every game with Kis from ceasar

P.S Hope you will make again good game like it.

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samiekl
samiekl


Supreme Hero
posted October 28, 2008 07:42 PM
Edited by samiekl at 19:47, 28 Oct 2008.

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econd battle he was extremly lucky from teren and Kispagat n00bnes to split dragons.

Yes,wanted to say that, plus hit-and-running with furies when he shouldn't have run, but overall he did a good job.
Another thing, after first fight if you used mentor for getting summoning (preferred) or destruction instead of logistics, you could have won it in the 2nd fight.

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted November 01, 2008 08:48 AM

Yesterday we started our game with Sir Gauvain.

Rules are:

No dv,
No mirror,
No mentored kamikazes,
No wyngaal,

We agreed that we play best of 3. First game on genesis. Second and third in Avalon.

First strike out was:

1. Ylthin vs Erling
2. Kilghan vs Sorgal
3. Telsek vs Havez

My older son asked me not to play with dwarfs now, so I stroke out first matchup. Sir Gauvain got rid matchup 3. So it was dungeon vs orcs. I have found Yrwanna in the tavern so changed my main instantly.

We are in week 3 now. This week is amazing, week of conjunction. Triple income from everywhere and triple amount of creatures!!!  

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted November 02, 2008 06:23 AM

And AGAIN... POINTLESS to even tell us what your Strike out heroes were... Next time please just list like this


Sylvan vs. Fortress
Orcs vs. Dungeon

etc etc etc etc

Since you never think you have to use the hero randomly generated anyways lol.

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted November 02, 2008 10:44 AM

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And AGAIN... POINTLESS to even tell us what your Strike out heroes were... Next time please just list like this


Sylvan vs. Fortress
Orcs vs. Dungeon

etc etc etc etc

Since you never think you have to use the hero randomly generated anyways lol.





I dont know how your tavern works, but when I start a game after strike out method, there are TWO other options to select from. Most of the times its one native, the other is different faction.

So, with strike out you select factions by 100%

AND

Main hero at least 33%. (Cuz if you are lucky, which you dont, but others may experience it, there could be two native heroes in the tavern)

I think in most maps changing main hero in day 2 is a huge handicap, but also possible.

I introduced this system for ceasar instead of full random to decrease the random factor, to decrease the chance of totally hopeless matchups. I think it became an exciting part of the games, but this method can not - and its not intended to - wipe out the random element.


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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted November 02, 2008 08:59 PM

you obviously missed my point COMPLETELY Kisp....

Let me try to explain the long way...


One of the biggest problems I see now adays is getting a good balanced town matchup and HERO matchup.. If you go all random... and are lucky enough to get towns that can compete with each other... then one guy gets Ossir or Ingvar... while other guy gets only crappy heroes... So end up with just as unbalanced of a game as you woud have had if you just went all random.

No imagine for a moment that WHEN you agreed to USE the Strike out system.. that in doing so.. you understood that you would be striking out the matchups BASED on BOTH the Hero and the town!!

Now you will beable to see that OSSIR vs. Raven matchup and strike it based on Bad Hero matchup etc.  But IMO that is where all the EXCITEMENT of the Strike out system comes in to play.. is knowing you have to USE what ever hero as your main that shows up in the strike out generation.

Otherwise I woulda say going all random would be just as easy.. Or pick towns and go random with heroes. No need for Strike out engine if noone gonna be BRAVE enough to use there generated Hero.

Just takes a bit more strategy and planning to make sure you strike out to get the best matchup is all.


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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted November 23, 2008 11:46 AM

Yesterday we finished out games with Sir Gauvain.

First game was in Genesis. It was orc for Sir and dungeon for me. At the end it turned out to be relatively easy victory, because orcs was unlucky to have shatter dark. I think, shatter dark is a must for orcs, cant risk it to live without it. But naturally when it is not offered, you can pray that your opponent cant have it also.

Second game was in Avalon. I must admit, that I was totally outplayed. My main hero was Deleb against dwarf. And, in fact I could no tell more. If I watched in the tavern, Ingwar, Karli and native hero in the map Nathir was shown as a main with good stats. I was a bit afraid, cuz it seemed to me that in every single turn my opponent uses brilliant chaining to take control of the map asap.

Also skilling was awful, I had all requirements of Urgash, but secondaries dont come. Later Urgash was not available anymore without mentor. I managed to collect all garbage  artifacts, and my stats were lot lower than my opponent.

But he made a mistake, attaking his third town without mana, and this mistake was fatal.

Thanks for the games.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted November 26, 2008 07:59 AM

Grats for won. Look like you was lucky again

I was sick last two weeks. Now i'm better and will try to end my games with lixue soon.

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted December 02, 2008 10:23 AM

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Grats for won. Look like you was lucky again

I was sick last two weeks. Now i'm better and will try to end my games with lixue soon.


Welcome back, and good luck for your matches to you and Lixue.

Try to finish it as soons as possible, to be able to finish the cup this year.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 14, 2008 02:31 PM

We just finish with Lixue. Game was on RMG/all random i get Haven he Inferno. Week 2 he suicide and game end accident.

Hope i can be match for you Kispagat

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 26, 2008 02:59 PM

We just end match with Kispagat. He won. Grats for get ToH CUP.

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted December 26, 2008 06:50 PM

So short comment, were are five star creep/final battle replays ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 26, 2008 07:49 PM

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So short comment, were are five star creep/final battle replays ?


I dont have replays and we dont have 1 real final battle but can do abit longer comment.

We play all games on HG all random.

Game 1 I was academy he haven. I dont have resurect and regen he have it. Week 3 double grow angels. Think he have pendal mastery so 120 Champion week 5. In final battle Ring+Staf. I was prepared to conter alot less army with  Lion's Spirit+ 2 wizards arts. In final battle he was +2 moral me +5 and he get alot more moral from me. This was most close and fair game from all match.
Game 2 Me Dwarf he necro. Week 2 -20% ini on all good races. With 7 ini on all my units was hard to creep. No resurect too. Week 3 did final battle. He has staf again.
Game 3 Me academy he Dungeon. He get from hut light magic and look he has regen or resurect. I dont have both befor kill monolit and get tome light. Final battle vs Staf+Ring+Fog Veil battle end befor my units get turn.

No way to beat his luck. My chances was zero all 3 games.

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted December 27, 2008 09:26 AM

Can't believe it ........
But we're used to kispagat's luck don't we
His appearance made me the 2nd luckiest guy , he steal my 1st spot

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted December 27, 2008 10:19 AM

Well, really not much to say. I dont remember 3 games in a row, which were that unbalanced. Even in second game, where with necro I suffered from lack of ore, it gave no huge impact on the game cuz Elit had same problem.

All 3 games I had staff, and 2 out of 3 I had ring of speed. In the first game it was still not enough to cover crazy wizard iniative, but amount of champions were too high.

(Note: In our first game, when I found ring and staff in the little island I asked him, whether we want to ban wearing both. His answer was no. He tought he can be more lucky than me, what a ridicolous idea )

I played with few mistakes, generally good level. With dungeon and necro week 3 day 6 final battle in front of blue town are quite impressive. (Not having extra turn with blue player)

But I admit this is usually not enough against Elit.

So toh cup is over.Thanks everybody to participate, I hope it was an intereting competition, and now we can be sure that there are quite cool players in german league also.


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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 27, 2008 10:28 AM

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Can't believe it ........
But we're used to kispagat's luck don't we
His appearance made me the 2nd luckiest guy , he steal my 1st spot


LoL i will cry for you! Its so sad to be second most lucky in ToH
From other side i have 28 loss from you and kispagat. Its from  44 total in ToH, so no mercy for you both.

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted December 27, 2008 10:41 AM

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(Note: In our first game, when I found ring and staff in the little island I asked him, whether we want to ban wearing both. His answer was no. He tought he can be more lucky than me, what a ridicolous idea )



My principles are for keep game natural and not ban much. Will be complete lame to tell "lets ban" if you have it. I want to challenge myself to the fullest, whether I win or lose.

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Kispagat
Kispagat


Famous Hero
posted December 27, 2008 10:42 AM

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(Note: In our first game, when I found ring and staff in the little island I asked him, whether we want to ban wearing both. His answer was no. He tought he can be more lucky than me, what a ridicolous idea )



My principles are for keep game natural and not ban much. Will be complete lame to tell "lets ban" if you have it. I want to challenge myself to the fullest, whether I win or lose.


Agree.

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