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william
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posted September 23, 2008 01:11 PM |
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Edited by william at 13:11, 23 Sep 2008.
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I don't see how XP could be slower when it doesn't use nearly as many resources as Vista uses. 
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del_diablo
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posted September 23, 2008 01:50 PM |
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* UAC on, I have root kits phobia 
I wonder, i do not find UAC to even be usefull. In 99% of the cases it will complain about software that you run, it will complain about installation, the running, then if its a online game.
Add on it lacks a easy safelist option, and if its allowed to run and got rootkit or someting the rootkit can easly take out your PC in 1 go. UAC is just a annoying bug, it does not do what its suppose to do: Keep you secure. Its a bad attempt to rip of Sudo from Linux.
In Linux you got the popup whenver you are doing someting(installing, and stuff), but not really when your doing non-powerfull stuff like running applications. Besides if i start editing my Linux i get the Sudo popupo once, then it will obey me for like 15min because i KNOW what i am doing.
And the fact i do not have to search for applications, i can just run it out of the box or add applications as i feel like it. And how the heck can spyware and viruses sneak into that when on Windows they did not build in equal features that forces me to look towards non-safe programs.
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TheDeath
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posted September 23, 2008 01:54 PM |
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* 32 bits. I do not own a 64 bit Vista yet and, unlike 99% of my fellow Romanians, I DO NOT use pirated software.
Of course since working in the gaming industry must give you access to "free" or very cheap systems or software
Oh William, there's more to Linux than that, but since you're not a programmer, I doubt you care about it's "open source" policy 
(and no I haven't used Linux at all  )
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william
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posted September 23, 2008 01:56 PM |
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I know that there is a lot more to Linux then that. what do you take me for, a noob? lol. I know perfectly well what linux is capable of and what the user can do with it.
PS: please check your hcm's TheDeath.
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del_diablo
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posted September 23, 2008 08:01 PM |
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I think i should have named the pool: Why are you not running Linux? 
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dimis
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posted September 23, 2008 10:00 PM |
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I wonder, i do not find UAC to even be usefull. In 99% of the cases it will complain about software that you run, it will complain about installation, the running, then if its a online game.
Add on it lacks a easy safelist option, and if its allowed to run and got rootkit or someting the rootkit can easly take out your PC in 1 go. UAC is just a annoying bug, it does not do what its suppose to do: Keep you secure. Its a bad attempt to rip of Sudo from Linux.
I was reading about UAC, and couldn't figure out what on earth you guys were talking about, until I googled it. lol From what I see, it was another attempt by MS to try to restrain their major weakness. But, hey, can MS actually achieve that? Then you won't have an MS os anymore, so we are not talking about windows. May be "doors"???
It's just sad that they don't force an administrator account for the various installations, and then each user can modify/customize its own program to his/her needs. But of course another parameter here, is the companies that create that third-party software that you install. If they fail to create something good, the user will end up blaming ms again.
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dimis
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posted September 23, 2008 10:04 PM |
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By the way ...
Does MS office behave well under UAC?
What about other suites made by ms? Cause certainly, if they can not produce something that behaves nicely with UAC at MS, then I guess, no other company can be blamed for creating software that does not behave well with UAC.
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del_diablo
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posted September 23, 2008 10:34 PM |
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Does MS office behave well under UAC?
What about other suites made by ms? Cause certainly, if they can not produce something that behaves nicely with UAC at MS, then I guess, no other company can be blamed for creating software that does not behave well with UAC.
UAC is a popup, it apperes everytime you run a program.
It asks: "Sure you wanna run this?", "Sure you wanna do this?" And gives you s YES/NO button, but it also lacks a "Ignore this application, and do not ask if i want to run this snow i run every 3rd minute".
Besides it tends to deny a program to do stuff with register files, actually if i remember correctly it tended to deny emulated(i need a better word for it) programs to make register files that are needed to run it.
So if your program is not using register files but rather INF and other stuffs for its setup it should work. But it will popup everytime you even attempt to run anything everytime. So its more painfull than it ever will become usefull. It also lacks details on informations on what it block, like full path and all files included in the procces and stuff like that.
The only good thing about it is that you can turn it permanently on after searching trough your PC.
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doomnezeu
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posted September 23, 2008 10:40 PM |
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Of course since working in the gaming industry must give you access to "free" or very cheap systems or software
Not really, no. There is a difference between "work", what I get to use there in the interests of my duties, and "home". For my personal needs, I must buy stuff like any other person.
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del_diablo
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posted September 23, 2008 10:52 PM |
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Of course since working in the gaming industry must give you access to "free" or very cheap systems or software
Not really, no. There is a difference between "work", what I get to use there in the interests of my duties, and "home". For my personal needs, I must buy stuff like any other person.
Then what software are you using? Just curios
PS: i even made a dam tread about software, why is people lazy?
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dimis
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posted September 23, 2008 11:52 PM |
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lol UAC seems like an interesting addition! 
And here are some programs that you can not find equivalent (yet) under linux:
Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, and some others by adobe which are so important for people who do video-editing for a living. I tried to force a friend of mine to migrate to linux once, and he tried it. But all the "equivalent" programs that we found there were simply not good enough. So, this guy uses windows for his work (and Heroes ) and for all other stuff he uses windows.
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del_diablo
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posted September 23, 2008 11:56 PM |
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lol UAC seems like an interesting addition!
And here are some programs that you can not find equivalent (yet) under linux:
Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, and some others by adobe which are so important for people who do video-editing for a living.
I think most of them work under Wine.
Myself i have problems with Paint.Net, since its .NET programmed. *evil look* But i'l make a workaround!(likely to ripping some .DLL stuff )
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Nikita
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posted September 24, 2008 12:59 AM |
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dimis
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posted September 24, 2008 01:04 AM |
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Yeah, most of them might work under wine. But the point is, how many mods does a typical user can handle? Besides, the whole idea is to work with something native for your system and do your work with the tools provided to you by the system.
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del_diablo
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posted September 24, 2008 03:34 AM |
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Besides, the whole idea is to work with something native for your system and do your work with the tools provided to you by the system.
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Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, and some others by adobe which are so important for people who do video-editing for a living.
*cough* Programs you listed for work is editor applications. Their only assosiation with a system is that they are capabel of running on it without reverse enginering or compiling.
Simply, their for Windows because heckalot of people use Windows. If 50%+ used Linux they would have been useable for Linux(by default), etc.
They are external software, not system software.
Besides, you can say all GNU software for Linux is the default software in way.
Besides, Windows suffers from crap default software(media player, paint, movie maker, etc).
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dimis
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posted September 24, 2008 05:15 AM |
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*cough* Programs you listed for work is editor applications. Their only assosiation with a system is that they are capabel of running on it without reverse enginering or compiling.
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They are external software, not system software.
That's exactly what I mean with the tools provided to you by a certain system. I don't mean they are "built-in" commands like "dir" or "ls". It's just that they are produced having in mind this kind of system; i.e. windows. Even open source programs require some minor modifications when you change platforms in order to compile them.
Bottom line, a typical user wants to do his/her job. He doesn't give a **** what the producers of a suite/program had in mind. So, the question is: "Can I do this in that system?"
And of course that's not the whole story, because the question is pretty much naive. e.g. you can reply "yes, you can!" but you won't inform him that he has to use wine so that he can do his work. Plus, every now and then a dll might be problematic. lol So, the real question is "Can I do something in this particular system (any system) by say, double-clicking an icon?"
And for most of the cases the answer is no if you don't intend to spend a significant part of your free time.
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mvassilev
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posted September 24, 2008 06:05 AM |
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Besides, Windows suffers from crap default software(media player, paint, movie maker, etc).
What, may I ask, is wrong with Windows Media Player? Paint isn't a serious graphics editing program, so it doesn't count. As for Movie Maker, I find it to be quite a good program.
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del_diablo
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posted September 24, 2008 06:34 AM |
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So, the real question is "Can I do something in this particular system (any system) by say, double-clicking an icon?"
And for most of the cases the answer is no if you don't intend to spend a significant part of your free time.
Actually, there is more than enogh ways of getting compiled done ready to install software if you ask me. The way you find .exe files ready to intall over the enire WWW. is a good example. I have also found similar things to Linux(but fewer), but most programmers seems to be completely ignorant when they create software and list download but not what OS it supports
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What, may I ask, is wrong with Windows Media Player? Paint isn't a serious graphics editing program, so it doesn't count. As for Movie Maker, I find it to be quite a good program.
Paint lacks pixel options and JPEG compression options. Alpah support or fixing the selection tool would have been nice to. Or maybe a decent color picker? I still hear about people using Paint for stuff, and i still se it all the time.
WMP lacks proper support to be a media player, a useable interface, a better way of adding music to the playlist. Only current way except doing those fool-arounds is to add files to the libary and that tends to lack a list of what it adds or updates, and i have to find where i shall set the libary tags too...... Stuff like Amarok is far superior.
Media Player got too many limitations for my choice, and it lacks certain usefull features and lacks certain formats to end up doing the end of the package in.
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dimis
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posted September 24, 2008 06:41 AM |
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Actually, there is more than enogh ways of getting compiled done ready to install software if you ask me. The way you find .exe files ready to intall over the enire WWW. is a good example. I have also found similar things to Linux(but fewer), ...
I am obviously (?) talking about non-windows os The world you describe is the world of windows. No objection there. And as of those pre-made executables for linux, well ... your fingers and your toes probably are enough to enumerate them all!
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del_diablo
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posted September 24, 2008 07:32 AM |
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I am obviously (?) talking about non-windows os The world you describe is the world of windows. No objection there. And as of those pre-made executables for linux, well ... your fingers and your toes probably are enough to enumerate them all!
More than 60 of them and i only got 10 finger and 10 toes But after a while most end up being included in the package manager, if their decent enogh.
Besides, the world is windows is relativ if its the world you described. If Linux suddenly got incontroll of the 64x generation this would be the new "world of windwos" aka whats on the WWW. of drivers and programs.
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