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william
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posted September 24, 2008 07:45 AM |
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What, may I ask, is wrong with Windows Media Player? Paint isn't a serious graphics editing program, so it doesn't count. As for Movie Maker, I find it to be quite a good program.
Paint lacks pixel options and JPEG compression options. Alpah support or fixing the selection tool would have been nice to. Or maybe a decent color picker? I still hear about people using Paint for stuff, and i still se it all the time.
I can use Paint quite fine and it compresses well. I do, however, use other programs to make images. My favourite being Adobe Photoshop.
WMP lacks proper support to be a media player, a useable interface, a better way of adding music to the playlist. Only current way except doing those fool-arounds is to add files to the libary and that tends to lack a list of what it adds or updates, and i have to find where i shall set the libary tags too
WMP does not lack proper support and what support would you actually need anyway? "Oh how do I play the song?"?  The WMP interface is very user friendly and it is the media player I use most of the time. I have used a variety of media players over all these years of using computers. I used Itunes for about 2 years but then switched to WMP when I got Windows XP. And what a massive improvement it was over the other versions. There are numerous ways to add files to the library. Seriously, WMP is very easy to use.
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Media Player got too many limitations for my choice, and it lacks certain usefull features and lacks certain formats to end up doing the end of the package in.
What kind of useful features do you want in a media player? The purpose of a media player is to be able to play audio and video files, any other things is just an add-on bonus for the users to enjoy. Lacks certain formats that end up doing the end of the package in? What are you talking about? I have never had that to me. I have had certain codecs that might not be on my machine and therefore not compatible with my WMP, but that is when I go to the Internet and download the necessary codecs. 
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del_diablo
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posted September 24, 2008 08:26 AM |
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What, may I ask, is wrong with Windows Media Player? Paint isn't a serious graphics editing program, so it doesn't count. As for Movie Maker, I find it to be quite a good program.
Paint lacks pixel options and JPEG compression options. Alpah support or fixing the selection tool would have been nice to. Or maybe a decent color picker? I still hear about people using Paint for stuff, and i still se it all the time.
I can use Paint quite fine and it compresses well. I do, however, use other programs to make images. My favourite being Adobe Photoshop.
My favorite image editor is Paint.NET, but its still a lousy excuse for Microsoft to not bothering upgrading their software enogh so it can atlest survive basic useage.
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WMP lacks proper support to be a media player, a useable interface, a better way of adding music to the playlist. Only current way except doing those fool-arounds is to add files to the libary and that tends to lack a list of what it adds or updates, and i have to find where i shall set the libary tags too
WMP does not lack proper support and what support would you actually need anyway? "Oh how do I play the song?"? The WMP interface is very user friendly and it is the media player I use most of the time. I have used a variety of media players over all these years of using computers. I used Itunes for about 2 years but then switched to WMP when I got Windows XP. And what a massive improvement it was over the other versions. There are numerous ways to add files to the library. Seriously, WMP is very easy to use.
Next part is that i actully need to turn on the "hit it again, sam" function, on a basic mediaplayer. Add it that it sends information to Microsoft on your musik and habits, atleast that is disabled if you do not agree on setup we belive.
And to add stuff to my playlist:
1. Locate folder or multiple folders and add to libery
2. New media detection is not working and slightly bugged, nice pluss when you start adding 4-5 files to your libery on 1000 files?
3. After that you candd whatever you find.
Downloaded jetAudio and it works better, more fitting options and better GUI. Heck i can even find a place to assign costum keys to turn on/off my music. And the fact all i need to do to add in someting to play playlist is to make a playlist and rightclick, select "add files" find them or eventual subfolders and add. Click play and it works.
Simpler and better, looks smoother too!
Besides the minimize feature is a suck because it takes ridiculess amount of space on my bar to the right whom i cannot cosumize.
Easy, yes. But it troublesom and lacks the speed to properly backupthat argument. Add on that it does not add midi files or files that lack media information to the libery, the only way to add them unless there is some hidden not-easy availon configuration is to use work-arounds.
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Media Player got too many limitations for my choice, and it lacks certain usefull features and lacks certain formats to end up doing the end of the package in.
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What kind of useful features do you want in a media player? The purpose of a media player is to be able to play audio and video files, any other things is just an add-on bonus for the users to enjoy. Lacks certain formats that end up doing the end of the package in? What are you talking about? I have never had that to me. I have had certain codecs that might not be on my machine and therefore not compatible with my WMP, but that is when I go to the Internet and download the necessary codecs.
Start with that i need to go hunting for a codec for the most basic filetype there is for movies these days: .AVI ............. i enjoy to compare it .JPEG or .PNG simply because its kind of a standard format.
Currently using K-Lite with Media Player classic, less annoying stuff and it got the options and featurs where i want them and its easyer to rig.
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dimis
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posted September 24, 2008 08:41 AM |
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Edited by dimis at 10:00, 24 Sep 2008.
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I start to remember things one by one ..
Yeah, I haven't used windows as main os for a long time and I 've already forgotten most of the things that I hated in every day work.
Now, this seems technical, but windows really lack a command prompt with an extensive repertoire of builtin commands. On the other hand, under *nix you have a tremendous power as a user once you start working on a terminal.
Examples:
&/bg: helps you run processes in the background. Do you have that option under win? I honestly don't remember.
grep: Use this command and print lines of text that actually interest you within a file. This way you do your work, way faster.  I don't remember if find (DOS) is so powerful, although for most of the time it is sufficient.
diff: Say you want to compare two files and check if they are identical? Or pinpoint where do they really differ? No problem, just call diff. (yet this is downloadable from diffutils)
wc: Quickly count the number of lines, words, and characters of a document without waiting for m$ word to open and perform the trick for you ...
ps: especially useful with grep when you want to figure out the id of the process you want to kill.
top: is leightweight and simply rocks! Can be very useful every couple or 3 days.
find: Find a file that you remember part of its name, or you can not locate it in extremely populated directories.
man: Want real documentation of a built-in command?
Apart from those above, there are other built-in commands that "make" your day every once in a while:
rsync: The easiest way of keeping backups. Just synchronize two computers/hard-drives (certain directories/files) by tracking and exchanging only the differences!!!
file: Suddenly you are in front of a new file, which has an extension that you never heard of. Want to know what is it about. Just call file for an educated guess.
sort: sort the contents of a text file. I store the phone numbers of all the people I know in a file that last few years. Experience taught me that cell phones, break down and some times you lose phone numbers. So, I just insert entries at the end of the file, and with sort I can view them sorted!
cal: Want a calendar for a moment to have a look and figure out if you are going to arrange that meeting after all?
Finally, you can easily change the permissions of a file or directory (chmod), or change the owner/group where a file/directory belongs to (chown/chgrp). But of course under win, these are meaningless anyway, since there are no permission bits...
You can view all users currently logged on: who
You can easily check when a friend of yours logged in last time (and not only): finger
You can send a message to a friend of yours currently logged on: write
You can chat with him/her: talk
Not so frequent, but sometimes life savers:
You can set programs run at specific time(s) of the day: at/cron
Force a process to continue even when you logout: nohup
and the list goes on ...
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dimis
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posted September 24, 2008 08:47 AM |
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Edited by dimis at 08:48, 24 Sep 2008.
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I am obviously (?) talking about non-windows os The world you describe is the world of windows. No objection there. And as of those pre-made executables for linux, well ... your fingers and your toes probably are enough to enumerate them all!
More than 60 of them and i only got 10 finger and 10 toes
del_diablo have you ever worked under *nix? Cause if you did, and even if there are 60 (now this is a number! ) different executables around the world, you don't need more than 3 or 4 in a typical installation. So, instead of saying 60, give me 5 different programs (executables, remember?) that are not in the package manager and you can not live without them.
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vlad976
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posted September 24, 2008 08:53 AM |
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Win2000. Too lazy to change.
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william
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posted September 24, 2008 09:07 AM |
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Next part is that i actully need to turn on the "hit it again, sam" function, on a basic mediaplayer. Add it that it sends information to Microsoft on your musik and habits, atleast that is disabled if you do not agree on setup we belive.
And to add stuff to my playlist:
1. Locate folder or multiple folders and add to libery
2. New media detection is not working and slightly bugged, nice pluss when you start adding 4-5 files to your libery on 1000 files?
3. After that you candd whatever you find.
There is an option to not send any media information to the Microsoft network. I'm just wondering if you have actually used media player for a time more than 5 minutes? It really seems like you haven't because of what you have said there.
You can just double click the audio file, and it will automatically add it to the WMP library. Add to the fact that the Library is very well done and easy to navigate. It isn't a hard process at all. If you know where the file is then you're all sweet. You can also make WMP add files to the library based on folders and this works fine every time, and it has never missed a song unless it is in a different audio format such as aac or m4a or other files that were ripped from the Itunes libraries that I used to have on my hard drive.
No where have I seen any bugs while it is adding songs to the library.
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Downloaded jetAudio and it works better, more fitting options and better GUI. Heck i can even find a place to assign costum keys to turn on/off my music. And the fact all i need to do to add in someting to play playlist is to make a playlist and rightclick, select "add files" find them or eventual subfolders and add. Click play and it works.
Simpler and better, looks smoother too!
Besides the minimize feature is a suck because it takes ridiculess amount of space on my bar to the right whom i cannot cosumize.
Sorry, I'm just going to stick with WMP since it works perfectly fine for me and it is a classic example of what a media player should be. Better GUI? So what? I could say that Vista is good because it has a better GUI but it isn't. It's a lousy OS that makes all programmers learn a lesson and not to try anything like that again. Yes, I can turn my music on and off as well. It's simple really. I have some buttons on my keyboard that can turn the music on or off, plus there is the good ol' play and stop button that you can also use which is why I find turning the music on or off by a key combination kinda useless really. What's so hard about bringing the media player up and just clicking the stop button? And WMP has an easier way to add files and that is just by double clicking the audio file. It will start playing in WMP and then it will be automatically added. No need to have to make a playlist and add files to it. You can do that but it is just a longer process and just wastes time. The minimise feature? How can that possibly take up a lot of space? By space what do you mean? Screen space or hard drive space, because if it is hard drive space then I don't know if you know what you are talking about and if it is screen space then maybe you should get off 640x480?
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Easy, yes. But it troublesom and lacks the speed to properly backupthat argument. Add on that it does not add midi files or files that lack media information to the libery, the only way to add them unless there is some hidden not-easy availon configuration is to use work-arounds.
It's hardly troublesome and I am going to say right now that it is one of the best media players around. That and Winamp, but I don't use Winamp too much because I have been too lazy too add anything to the Library yet. And you're wrong. I play MIDI files on occasions in WMP and they are added to the library. Files that lack media information are also added to the media library but are listed as unknown artist or other. The only way you can add them is by doing it the normal way and not over-complicating things like you seem to do, lol.
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Start with that i need to go hunting for a codec for the most basic filetype there is for movies these days: .AVI ............. i enjoy to compare it .JPEG or .PNG simply because its kind of a standard format.
You have to go and search for .AVI codecs to use for WMP? Are you kidding me?
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Lexxan
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posted September 24, 2008 09:08 AM |
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William.... You are getting into Quote Wars
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william
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posted September 24, 2008 09:10 AM |
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I know that I am. I'll stop.
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Asheera
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posted September 24, 2008 01:13 PM |
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And here are some programs that you can not find equivalent (yet) under linux:
Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, and some others by adobe which are so important for people who do video-editing for a living.
This was my whole point from the very first post in this thread. Linux sucks, not as the OS itself, but because it isn't as popular as Windows and therefore doesn't have as many programs, some of which are essential like Photoshop
Of course, those that just surf the Net don't need fancy programs, but anyway
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william
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posted September 24, 2008 01:17 PM |
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Asheera, you sound like a noob here, seriously. At least try the OS before you try and say facts. There are plenty of alternatives you can use and you can, if you really want to, use the Wine Emulator to be able to download Adobe Photoshop and all those other programs while using linux. It's a great OS, and it is becoming increasingly popular. Just wondering, but Asheera, are you living under a rock?
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Asheera
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posted September 24, 2008 01:21 PM |
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It's a great OS, and it is becoming increasingly popular. Just wondering, but Asheera, are you living under a rock?
At least I don't offend you like that
And can you back up your statement? Last time I checked (a month ago) Linux was only at around 10%... (and the poll also shows this)
And no, I doubt those alternatives are as good as 3ds Max or Photoshop or other "great" programs like these.
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doomnezeu
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posted September 24, 2008 01:21 PM |
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Just wondering, but Asheera, are you living under a rock?
He lives in Romania, so, basically, yes.
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william
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posted September 24, 2008 01:23 PM |
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OMG, you were offended? Come on, you know I wasn't serious.
When did you check the polls? Back when Linux first started? From what I have gathered and my research gathered on the Internet, linux is becoming increasingly popular. It's not going to be as popular as Windows is within a day but it is getting up there.
Some of them are quite good. Why don't you just go and try it then you can say what you want about it.
LOL Doom, but he is actually a she.
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posted September 24, 2008 01:39 PM |
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He lives in Romania, so, basically, yes.
LOL
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TheDeath
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posted September 24, 2008 01:49 PM |
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You have to go and search for .AVI codecs to use for WMP? Are you kidding me?
.avi is not a codec, it's a interface format used to ENCAPSULATE codecs. Just like .ogg --> .ogg files can ENCAPSULATE Vorbis (sound) codec or Theora (video) codec.
Oh and Media Player kinda sucks, it has too few "technical" details, it doesn't even display the size of the video easily! I guess Microsoft just want to make it too non-technical and that kinda annoys me. BS Player is better, or Winamp
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posted September 24, 2008 01:56 PM |
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You all know that BSplayer comes with spyware right?
I can't remember from which version it started but the new ones do.
That's why I use VLC. And Winamp sucks with video files. Great for audio though.
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TheDeath
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posted September 24, 2008 01:57 PM |
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You all know that BSplayer comes with spyware right?
I have an old version but I always scan files before with VirusTotal anyway. It's too bad it comes with spyware.
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Asheera
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posted September 24, 2008 02:02 PM |
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When did you check the polls? Back when Linux first started?
I meant the poll of this thread
And I use Winamp for Audio and WMP for Video - what's wrong with the latter at viewing videos? It's perfect
Oh and very funny Doom
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TheDeath
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posted September 24, 2008 02:14 PM |
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what's wrong with the latter at viewing videos? It's perfect
Careful at the word "perfect". It lacks a lot of technical options.
it's also a bit slow.
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Asheera
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posted September 24, 2008 02:18 PM |
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1) It actually has ALL technical options possible. Have you even tried it? Or have you even chose File->Properties once?
2) I tried BSPlayer once (a FREE version with not ALL features) and believe it or not it was slower
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