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posted September 24, 2008 02:22 PM |
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1) It actually has ALL technical options possible. Have you even tried it? Or have you even chose File->Properties once?
Can you resize the video (as in stretch it in a different aspect ratio)? Can you apply full screen without popping anything up when you move the mouse? Can you extract audio? Can you extract a frame information (well this depends on the codec, some use "previous Gold frame information" to encode one frame so it gets more complex)? Or can you look at the CODEC details with it (depends on the codec obviously)?
Well I know BSPlayer might not be capable of all the above, but stuff like VirtualDubMod or other such software can (well they can also edit but anyway).
Careful when you say "all" technical details. Just because you don't know or don't need more doesn't mean it's "perfect". After all, there can not be a thing "more perfect than perfect" so if it had the above mentioned stuff, how would you call it?
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posted September 24, 2008 02:26 PM |
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LOL
We're talking about Players here, not editors
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posted September 24, 2008 02:29 PM |
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Edited by TheDeath at 15:00, 24 Sep 2008.
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So? All of the stuff above is merely "information", nothing to do with editing. Don't tell me the "Stretch" the aspect ratio is for editors. You can use editors as "better" players than MediaPlayer without editing one bit. That says a lot about "perfectness" 
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posted September 24, 2008 03:19 PM |
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So? All of the stuff above is merely "information", nothing to do with editing. Don't tell me the "Stretch" the aspect ratio is for editors. You can use editors as "better" players than MediaPlayer without editing one bit. That says a lot about "perfectness"
yes you can modify the aspect ratio in BSPlayer. I for one use Zplayer, the one that comes with CCCP. It is not perfect in any way, nor does it have a lot of facilities, but it suits my needs (as in weird anime video extensions).
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posted September 24, 2008 03:23 PM |
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I know, I was talking about Media Player
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posted September 24, 2008 03:45 PM |
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1) It actually has ALL technical options possible. Have you even tried it? Or have you even chose File->Properties once?
Oh did i ever! It lacked more than several options too!
Besides, another complain:
Speak for itself, there is NO simple way of adding multiple files. By logic it should be there, and bah i reinstall Windows so often(5 times or someting since i started school.
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posted September 24, 2008 03:47 PM |
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I said Windows Media Player (11) is good for viewing Videos and I don't think you need to have a list for this
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posted September 24, 2008 03:50 PM |
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I said Windows Media Player (11) is good for viewing Videos and I don't think you need to have a list for this
Unstable, slow, messy interface, cannot set framerate and speed, last time i ran a DVD on it: Could not skip anything, only waay was to skip to the next scene.
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posted September 24, 2008 03:51 PM |
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Dude, you must have a really poor computer then. You're the only person I have talked to that has this many (and really weird) problems with WMP. Maybe learning how to use a computer first might help? jk
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posted September 24, 2008 04:03 PM |
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And here are some programs that you can not find equivalent (yet) under linux:
Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere, and some others by adobe which are so important for people who do video-editing for a living.
This was my whole point from the very first post in this thread. Linux sucks, not as the OS itself, but because it isn't as popular as Windows and therefore doesn't have as many programs, some of which are essential like Photoshop
Of course, those that just surf the Net don't need fancy programs, but anyway
Well, if your life relies on these programs, then you are right and I am with you.
But do you really need Photoshop, or Premiere??? A typical user certainly does NOT.  So, a typical user, can NOT say that Linux sax (at least the way I see it), because he/she can not find Photoshop or Premiere. Just for the fun we can start a poll similar to the following:
* I use Adobe Photoshop or Premiere.
* I 've heard about Photoshop or Premiere, but even if I 've tried it for a few days, I am *not* willing to spend more time on these.
And remember that even in HC the outcomes are slightly biased, because members are more "geeks" than a typical user. Plus, in some cases, people can be satisfied with gimp instead of Photoshop. They just have never heard of it, cause their friend uses Photoshop. So a percent from the first option can migrate to the second one. lol
Bottom line, linux can be secure, and fun-experience for the average user. It's just that the average user is not willing to spend his/her time to learn it a little bit. Partially because few, if any, of his/her friends have linux, and he/she is afraid of the difficulties that might arise. Of course this is perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean it is the right decision.
If anyone has a spare harddrive/pc in his/her house, it's a pity if they don't have linux just to try it out. At least once! You 'll be amazed with the things that you can do. Plus it's more intuitive on some parts; i.e. more user friendly.
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posted September 24, 2008 04:27 PM |
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Dude, you must have a really poor computer then. You're the only person I have talked to that has this many (and really weird) problems with WMP. Maybe learning how to use a computer first might help? jk
Call me a weirdo, but i want to use my PC and to find decent applications and its suppose to back up the specs in pure speed.
When i hit an application i want it to run in a instante, atlest as fast as possible The speed difference betwhen my old PC with 2gb ram(XP) and the one i am using now ith 4gb ram(Vista), is barely noticeable excepy on raw power or the loadtime of very slow applications. WMP is slow because i compare it to similar software and to how fast it was with my old PC, it is still slow on loading and start and it still got this huge delay when i just hit the play button so it will start where i was last. Simply its slow.
Beside, most of my file errors comes from the fact i tend to mess around and randomy download stuff and music. Midi is a good format, but its not by defaut added in media player either(to libery or playlists).
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TheDeath
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posted September 24, 2008 04:31 PM |
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Dude, you must have a really poor computer then. You're the only person I have talked to that has this many (and really weird) problems with WMP. Maybe learning how to use a computer first might help? jk
What del_diablo said was kinda true. And who cares that his computer is old? If I had to choose between 2 software, one being slower than the other, even if it is not significant, why should I choose the slower one? Not to mention that it has very poor "advanced" controls as well, and the interface is sucky (you can't even play it fast/slow easy, you have to go into the tabs above to open up the "menu"). Plus buttons are too big & stylish, not systematic at all  (I hate "stylish" stuff)
@Ash: why do you ignore what I said above about "viewing" and "playing" videos? WMP lacks a lot of low-level controls
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posted September 24, 2008 04:39 PM |
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I don't know what are you talking about Death Let's see:
Can you resize the video (as in stretch it in a different aspect ratio)? - This feature sucks anyway
Can you apply full screen without popping anything up when you move the mouse? - Absolutely useless - why would you need it?
Can you extract audio? - Does this have anything to do with PLAYING a video? LOL, this is more an editor's job
Can you extract a frame information (well this depends on the codec, some use "previous Gold frame information" to encode one frame so it gets more complex)? - Same as above
Or can you look at the CODEC details with it (depends on the codec obviously)? - I don't know what you mean by this, but File->Properties pretty much says details about the CODEC used.
Oh and I like the buttons and the "stylish" theme So this is entirely subjective
Not to mention that VirtualDubMod you said (which is an EDITOR anyway) can't play .wmv files
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posted September 24, 2008 04:46 PM |
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Great arguments with "that sucks anyway"  [/sarcasm]
as a note, that means it isn't perfect. You say "that sucks anyway" so how is this any constructive at all? Oh yeah: "WMP sucks anyway" there done
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Or can you look at the CODEC details with it (depends on the codec obviously)? - I don't know what you mean by this, but File->Properties pretty much says details about the CODEC used.
I meant the properties of the codec, but I doubt you know about it anyway.
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Not to mention that VirtualDubMod you said (which is an EDITOR anyway) can't play .wmv files
Let me use your argument: wmv sucks anyway. Who needs it?
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posted September 24, 2008 04:49 PM |
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Thanks for replying only to the first part Death
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posted September 24, 2008 04:50 PM |
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I agree with both of you.
I use WMP but my movies are mostly avi's or rmvb's (very rarely).
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posted September 24, 2008 04:51 PM |
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Why should I reply to the rest when it is off the point? The question was:Quote:
@Ash: why do you ignore what I said above about "viewing" and "playing" videos? WMP lacks a lot of low-level controls
That means not everything I wrote, but only the parts that were significant about that doh.
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posted September 24, 2008 04:53 PM |
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The most important thing for a player is to play as many formats as possible. So those that aren't able to play .wmv are out of the question as "best" from the start
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posted September 24, 2008 04:56 PM |
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Thing is, wmv is protected by Microsoft patents if I remember, that's why most "non-free" (btw) players don't support it. It's a sucky format anyway, why not choose xVid? Far better quality and it's open, no protected ****
(don't get me wrong, the format quality is good (not better than xVid tho ) but it isn't open and that's important!)
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posted September 24, 2008 04:59 PM |
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Point is, almost all game trailers are in .wmv format
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