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SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2009 03:22 AM |
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I'm not referring to Orcs being green, but rather that the Orc Grunt has the exact same color, body and teeth shape as a Orc Boy from WHFB. It's literally exactly the same. Things like the Dwarven Gyrocopter (which they renamed IIRC) are also examples of near-direct lifts.
Warcraft's definitively its own universe, though.
This would be my ideal Warcraft IV:
Pop Cap: Starcraft-style. Workers take 1 (cut down on worker numbers please!) as do basic foot units. Stronger foot units, flying units, take more. Heroes take 5-8. Total pop cap, maybe 200?
In-game factions:
Human Alliance
Night Elves
Forsaken?
Orcish Horde
Naga
And Burning Legion as campaign-only maybe
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 06, 2009 03:03 PM |
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Yeah, the Forsaken makes much more sense since the Scourge is basically shattered by the end of WotLK.
All the mindless undead (ghouls, skeletons etc) will likely die or be crazy and just run around, and the Liches etc will probably capture there own groups of small undead or join the Forsaken (if they are allowed).
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted January 09, 2009 07:35 PM |
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I'm still againts the idea of WC 4 = continued story of WC 3 and WoW.
Why? WoW will cover it. Most online games have more rooms for story than non online games. If WC 4 is to continue WoW and WC 3 story, i'm sure it will be 500 or 1000 years more than the events of WC 3, or at least in a time where WoW story won't reach it.
For non online games, its story will be updated if the developer release expansions or add ons, but every new quest in online games already update its story (though some update it indirectly). Making/Releasing add ons and expansions is much more difficult than releasing a new quest.
@Cepheus
Played H2-H5, as for M&M, i played only M&M 4 - M&M 9. Aside from those, i only read the lores.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 09, 2009 07:49 PM |
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Burning Legion is too cool to be cramped into some sort of wuss skirmish/multiplayer race that can be actually beaten in 1v1 
I mean, one side has big flaming golems, even bigger doom guards carrying mofo swords, bigger-then-bigger quadruped demons with ultra-mofo double edged spears and omg-its-so-fkin-big eredar warlocks, and they lose to, ughh, footmen? knights? Dwarven riflemen?
Don't make me laugh 
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 09, 2009 08:19 PM |
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@Cepheus
Played H2-H5, as for M&M, i played only M&M 4 - M&M 9. Aside from those, i only read the lores.
Much info on the Ancients was revealed in some spinoff games and MM2 and 3, as for the Kreegans they are also in Heroes Chronicles and alluded to in MM3 as well.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted January 10, 2009 09:27 PM |
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Burning Legion is too cool to be cramped into some sort of wuss skirmish/multiplayer race that can be actually beaten in 1v1
I mean, one side has big flaming golems, even bigger doom guards carrying mofo swords, bigger-then-bigger quadruped demons with ultra-mofo double edged spears and omg-its-so-fkin-big eredar warlocks, and they lose to, ughh, footmen? knights? Dwarven riflemen?
Don't make me laugh
Well you pretty much kick their asses all throughout Frozen Throne so I don't see why this is a problem. 
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 10, 2009 09:46 PM |
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And most of their important leaders will likely die in some WoW expansion (Argus, Xoroth etc) so it makes them weaker.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted January 10, 2009 11:13 PM |
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you kick their asses ? No way. It takes three combined races to beat them and, well, don't forget that they couldn't win anyway cause that would end warcraft storyline.
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xerox
Promising
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posted January 11, 2009 01:01 AM |
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The Legion is splitted into several small groups and are leaderless after WoW.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted January 11, 2009 04:26 AM |
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you kick their asses ? No way. It takes three combined races to beat them and, well, don't forget that they couldn't win anyway cause that would end warcraft storyline.
Blood Elves fight them on what is basically their own turf in Outland, and win, if I recall correctly.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 12, 2009 09:23 PM |
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???
Blood Elves surrender to the Legion and gets taken by them. Blood Elves summons demons to start a third invasion.
Some Belves even became Fel Elves.
There are three groups of Blood Elves.
Those serving A'dal and the Naaru. The Scryers.
Those serving Kael and the Legion. The Sunfury/Sunblade etc.
Those serving Lor'themar and the Horde. The Quel'thalian Elves.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 12, 2009 09:38 PM |
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Warcraft 4: Orgins
Venture back in time, aiding past empires to achieve victory and dominance of the land.
Once the Trolls outmatched even Queen Azsharas mighty empire, and stood united as one. Together they were one of the most powerful nations of all, only threatened by the Azji'aqir.
Will the Trolls ever be able to defeat their ancestral enemies, which seems to now serve the dark whispers of the Old Gods?
Or aid the ancient Night Elves and their upper class and sunbrace, the Queldorei - Children of Noble Birth, Highbourne.
Having wars against both the Qiraji, the decednads of the Azji'aqir, and the Trolls only to face an even greater enemy...
The Burning Legion. Invading Azeroth this faction of corrupted alien races started Azeroths largest war ever, extincting thousands of speices, killing millions of people and even destroying the very foundations of the world itself.
And lastly, serve ancient evil gods and command the sinister race of insectoids, the Azji'aqir.
In the end, not even the Dragons could withstand their force of destruction. But will the whispers of ancient gods consume them into darkness, or can they break free from their dark bonds?
EXPANSION: Tides of Destruction
Following the War of the Ancients and the continents splitting in two, the Naga were born through an unforgetble pact with Azeroths most sinister creatures.
Experience how the Naga took control over the seas and why they did not unleash their Tides of Destruction in time before the Alliance and Horde formed to forge their downfall...
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
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- John Stuart Mill
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 13, 2009 09:51 PM |
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Sorry for swearing but, snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had spent the whole evening creating the Troll race history, their tech-tree, pros and cons, unit descriptions, hero descriptions - everything!
Then I accindently deleted it!!!!!!!!!!!1
My anger knows no bounds right now!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the units atleast:
Drudge
Marauder, Trapper, Berserker
Witch Doctor, Hexer, Dire Troll
Wind Serpent, Bat Rider
Avatar
Shadow Hunter, Primal, Warlord
Great Hall -> Stronghold -> Fortress
Watch Tower, Rescourse Camp, Spirit Lodge, Trading Hut, Lounge, Pyramid, Burrow, Altar of the Loa.
It was so good that I even considered replacing the Horde in Wc3 with them. Then deleted in a couple of seconds, after I had wasted the whole evening on it -.-
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Lord_Immortal
Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
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posted June 17, 2009 11:33 AM |
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I think that will be 4 classes:Magic(M)Balanced(B)Cunning(C)Warrior(W).There will be Diplomatic buildings(To forge aliances).Also Ally buildings(AB) can train other race units(Humans,Orcs,Undead,Draenei and Naga only).New TITANS!!!Death Knight Hero available to All races as balanced.
Green->Neutral
Red->Evil
Blue->Good
Well,my thought about Warcraft IV(if it will come):
Humans
3 Unit upgrades.Allies Dwarves.Building Upgrades.
Speciality
HERO CLASSES:
Archmage(M)
Battle Priest(B)
Paladin(W)
Strider(C)
UNITS and building Trained
City Hall/Citadel/Castle->Militia/Footman/Swordsman
Feudal Halls/Hall of Generals/Hall of Nobles->Knight/General/Noble
Bowmaker/Crossbow Maker/Arbalester->1)Bowman/Crossbowman/Marksman
2)Javelineer
Siege Camp/Assault Camp/Siege Workshop->Trebuchet/Siege Trebuchet/Masterwork Trebuchet
Training Camp/Barracks/Polearm Workshop->Spearman/Pikeman/Haldberder
Arcane Hall/Arcane Palace/Arcane Library->Sorceress/Grand Sorceress/Battle Sorceress
Magic Altar/Magic Shrine/Magic Temple->Initiate/Adept/Magr
Hall of Dwarves(AB):
Axeman/Axemaster/Axebane
Riffleman/Cannonner/Siege Engineer
Runepriest/Runelord/Runemaster
Titan:Aresteus(A giant Spirit armored with Silver and Golden Armor
Night Elves
no upgrades.5 heroes
Hero Classes:
Keeper of the Grove(M)
Prision Warden(B)
Assasin(C)
Battle Warden(W)
Ranger(C)
Units and Buildings
Ancient of War:
1)Archeress/Shooteress
2)Ballista/Repeating Ballista
Ancient of Lore
1)Druid of the Claw/Druid of the Fang
2)Dryad/Dryad Huntress
3)Mountain Giant/Mountain Colossus
Ancient of Wind
1)Druid of the Feather/Druid of the Sky
2)Chimera/Dragon Chimera
3)Faerie Dragon/Eldritch Dragon
Ancient of Hunt
1)Huntress/Master Huntress
Titan:Yndar Giant Green 2 headed dragon
Naga
No upgrades,Amphibious units(Exept Allies)
HERO CLASSES:
Sea Wich(M)
Depth Hunter(C)
Sea Lord(W)
Slavemaster Warden(B)
Sea Temple:
1)Carcinos
2)Coatl
3)Naga Priestess
Fighting Pool
1)Naga Myrmydon
2)Naga Huntress
3)Naga Royal Guard
Blood Elf Hall(AB)
1)Spellbreaker
2)Sorceror
3)Blood Wich
4)Blood Blademaster
Titan:Leviathan(Giant sea serpent)
Undead
No upgrades exept allies and mages.No Warrior Hero.
HEROES
Lich(M)
Cryptmaster(B)
Dreadlord(B)
Dark Ranger(C)
Units and buildings
Graveyard
1)Ghoul
2)Zombie
3)Skeleton
4)Skeleton Archer
Horror Yard
1)Abomination
2)Meat Catapult
3)Ghost
Death Temple
1)Dark initiate/Necromancer
2)Death Wich/Banshee
Northrend Portal(AB)
1)Skeletal Wyrm/Skeletal Frost Dragon
2)Nerubian Seer/Nerubian Prophet
3)Crypt Fiend/Nerubian Warrior
Titan:????(I do not remember the name but the dragon Arthas slays At The Frozen Throne in the entrance of Azjol Nerub and then resurrects it)
Demons
3 Upgrades.Few but strong units.
HEROES:
Doomking(W)
Demonlord(B)
Eldritch Demonlord(M)
Fire Runner(C)
Units and buildings
Fallen Portal
Fel Warrior/Felguard/Overlord
Doomguard/Dark Guard/Black Warlord
Catapult/Fire Catapult/Dark Catapult
Demonology Library:
1)Doppleganger/Shifter/Black Doppleganger
2)Demonologist/Firemaster Demonologist/Black Demonologist
Hall of Sins
1)Temptress/Sinner/Pain Queen
2)Succubus/Infernal Succubus/Warrior Succubus
Titan:Sargeras
Orc
No upgrades.2 ABs
HEROES:
Stormshaman King(M)
Warlord(W)
Blademaster(C)
Beastmaster(B)
Units and buildings
Warhall
1)Grunt
2)Swordsman
3)Archer
Champion's Hall
1)Samurai
2)Ninja
Beastmaster's Hall
1)Wolf Rider
2)Kodo Rider
3)Wynvern Rider
Cages
1)Dire Wolf
2)Kodo Beast
3)Wild Wynvern
Spell Hall
1)Shaman
2)Warlock
3)Battlemage
Tauren Rune-Totem(AB)
1)Tauren Shaman
2)Tauren Warrior
3)Tauren Druid
Troll Hall(AB)
1)Troll Headhunter
2)Troll Berserker
3)Troll Wich-Doctor
4)Troll Axeman.
5)Troll Demolishing Catapult
Draenei(Not the Lost Ones like those of Warcraft III Frozen Throne,those from WOW:TBC)
3 upgrades.Few but strong units
HEROES
Harbinger(W)
Voidking(B)
Oracle(M)
Assasin(C)
Stalking Hall
1)Stalker/Killer/Assasin
2)Hashashin/Hashashin Warrior/Hashashin Killer
Oracle Temple
1)Seer/Battleseer/Demi-Oracle
2)Oracle/Void Oracle/Grand Prophet
War Palace
1)Warrior/Knight/Paladin
2)Void Destroyer/Void Demolisher/Void Ram
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2009 12:45 PM |
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Well, Blizzard has started to work on an unannounched RTS game which could very likely be Warcraft 4. Remember that this game would probably take up to ten years to complete, which would allow WoW to finish with its expansions.
This is one of the job recruitments Blizzard has right now:
Software Engineer, AI/Gameplay - Unannounced Title
Blizzard Entertainment is seeking an experienced gameplay engineer to focus on strategic AI for an upcoming unannounced title. This is your chance to get in on the ground floor of a dynamic and focused team working on a brand-new project. Blizzard Entertainment offers a fun, creative, and technically challenging environment with excellent compensation and a full range of benefits.
Requirements:
Fluency in C/C++
Strong data structures, logic, and algorithm skills
Good observational skills and the ability to translate them into game ideas
Experience creating strategic AI that handles long-term goals, resource management, etc.
Self motivation and willingness to pitch in on many areas of small game development
Passion for playing games
Pluses:
5+ years of game coding experience including at least one shipped title
Computer science/mathematics/physics or related degree
General gameplay experience on a shipping game
Experience working on networked games
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Does this prove Warcraft 4 is in development?
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted June 17, 2009 02:09 PM |
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Does this prove Warcraft 4 is in development?
This just throws more to the pile
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Burning Legion is too cool to be cramped into some sort of wuss skirmish/multiplayer race that can be actually beaten in 1v1
That pretty much applies to Scourge too. Or the Zerg in Starcraft.
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Humans
Night Elves
Naga
Undead
Demons
Orc
No, no and NO!
Possible factions:
*Alliance
*Scourge
*Forsaken
*Naga
*Nigth Elf
*Blood Elf, most likely merged into 1 faction under Illiaden together with Draneis.
*Dranei, most likely merged into 1 faction under Illiaden together with some belfs.
*Horde
*Troll faction based around the worthship of the old gods
*Burning Legion, or its splitted down to 2 factions
And i would say this is quite serious for the matter.
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted June 17, 2009 11:55 PM |
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Edited by xerdux at 23:59, 17 Jun 2009.
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What?
Illidan is dead. Hes forces do not exist anymore. All remaining Blood Elves follow either the Sha'tar and the Naaru or under regent-lord Lor'themar Theron on Azeroth.
The Scourge is basically completly breaked down by the end of Wrath of the Lich King. The Forsaken will replace them as the new villians.
Same with the Naga, their Empire will likely go under after that expansion. Blood Elves are likely to either rejoin the Alliance of Lordaeron 2.0 or the Forsaken. The Forsaken and Blood Elves already have good relations in WoW.
The Draenei stuff has been retconned. There were no Dranei following Illidan. Those are now called the Lost Ones.
Those who followed Illidan were a group of Broken (mutated Draenei) who were called the Ashtounge Deathsworn.
The Zandalar Empire are godo guys.
Likely they will go the same route as Starcraft 2 and keep the orginal 4 races (just replace Scourge with Forsaken).
Alliance (including Draenei and perhaps High Elves)
Horde
Union (Night Elves and the forces of nature)
Forsaken (and Blood Elves)
What we can be sure at that Blizzard is developing an RTS which is very likely Warcraft 4.
Blizzard games takes long so WoW will be able to "complete". Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 has been in development since 2003.
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted June 18, 2009 12:56 AM |
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Illidan is dead.
Not seen the official lore on it yet.
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The Scourge is basically completly breaked down by the end of Wrath of the Lich King. The Forsaken will replace them as the new villians.
Not really, they got Lich King Arthas. He itself is more than capabel of turning the tide.
And i can't se who is capabel of killing him, since it does now require more than a well placed blow.
As a faction, they are just more than impossible to take down. A thing noticeable in WoW, is the amount of gods the players are suppose to have killed already. Its ridiculess going by the scale of the lore in level, and how hard its to kill stuff.
PS: Wonder how long its til the players is going to kill the arch druid, its a ticking time bomb from what i have heard.
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xerdux
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted June 18, 2009 03:21 AM |
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WoW IS official lore
And Maiev executes Illidan in a "cut-scene" in WoW. Then she runs away to look for Naisha in the Tomb of Sargeras or something.
Arthas will die by the end of Wrath of the Lich King, Blizzard has stated that. Keep in mind that Ner'zhul no longer exists within the Lich King. Ner'zhul is elsewhere, and there could very well be a new Lich King after Arthas.
Arthas is rumored to be killed by the legendary sword known as the Ashbringer, forged by the heart of a Naaru (the naaru are living beings of light). Arthas has been weakened twice in WotLK. He was affected by the Forsakens own plague during the Wrathgate event and was damage when hes heart was destroyed.
There is no humanity left in Arthas.
Actually, in WoW you dont kill many gods without aid or in their full shape.
Ragnaros: Elemental "god". Recently summoned and weakened.
Hakkar: Same as above.
Kil'jaedan: You get help of the Blue Dragonflight and the Sunwell itself turns against him. Kil'jaedan doesnt die.
Illidan: Maiev executes him and Akama betrays him.
Malygos: The Red Dragonflight assists you.
C'thun: Same as Hakkar and Ragnaros and you dont really kill him. His spirits live on and will cause devasting effects to Azeroth.
Yogg-Saron: Same as above.
I do not think we will kill Mal'furion, but its possible that he is a so-called "Unwakening One" who is stuck and corrupted within the Emerald Dream.
Rather I think he will be the faction leader there. Fandral Staghelm however... he is very likely to become a boss.
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del_diablo
Legendary Hero
Manifest
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posted June 18, 2009 11:21 AM |
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WoW IS official lore
And Maiev executes Illidan in a "cut-scene" in WoW. Then she runs away to look for Naisha in the Tomb of Sargeras or something.
Naisha is dead, maybe she is going to make her a funeral.
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Arthas has been weakened twice in WotLK. He was affected by the Forsakens own plague during the Wrathgate event and was damage when hes heart was destroyed.
Last time i checked, the plague was more than cureable. Just check the people working under him. Add on the power of the Lich king, i guess its more than cureable even when using arcane to heal.
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Fandral Staghelm however... he is very likely to become a boss.
Predictable? Yupp.
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