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Thread: Are white, black and asian people different speices? This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
winterfate
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posted May 15, 2009 08:34 AM

In direct response to the thread title (since I just remembered a comment my Zoology professor said about James D. Watson last year)...

Just go read what Watson has to say about the residents of the continent of Africa...

From the way he rambles on, you'd think they were different species.

Seriously, if I ever meet him, I'm going to shake his hand and subsequently kick him in the groin.
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posted May 15, 2009 02:05 PM

If they have much different DNA then they are another breed/speices.
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posted May 15, 2009 02:40 PM

The term breed does not apply to humans.
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posted May 15, 2009 03:23 PM

My parents bred Humans

And YOURS did too!!!
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posted May 15, 2009 04:00 PM

Humans are not special from other animals.

So if their DNA is different then we are different breeds/speices.
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posted May 15, 2009 05:37 PM

Well, xerox, I like to think we're different species, but that's not true...

Everything biological has different DNA, even plants, so according to your logic, we are different species and I believe that, but by your logic a dog is a different species when you compare it to a dog...

So a dolfin is a different species from a dolfin...

Hooray!
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posted May 15, 2009 06:06 PM

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So if their DNA is different then we are different breeds/speices.


How many times do I need to tell you people can't be "breeds" ?

I'm happy I'm not your teacher. ^_^



breed requires a selective picking of specimen with desired features and crossbreed them

Does ANYBODY picks through humans to create a breed of "tall people" or "big nosed people"?

No. Thus, there are no human breeds.

And species, I already covered that, I guess: Homo sapiens IS a specie. And we all belong to it. Another specie would be the extint homo neanderthalensis, for example.
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posted May 15, 2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

So a dolfin is a different species from a dolfin...

Hooray!

So I´m different specie from Xerox.

Hooray!
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posted May 16, 2009 03:16 AM
Edited by xerox at 03:33, 16 May 2009.

That means MAJOR DNA change or major and major, like a Human to a Chimpanese (lol).
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posted May 16, 2009 03:20 AM

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Well they don't mean that everyone is exactly the same. It's not attack of the clones, but they generally mean that the differences are trivial in that they shouldn't create prejudice and inequality in the way different races interact..
Of course I agree with you, but this thread seems to be more about biology than social qualities or whatever other human qualities, so it's only fair in this thread, we'll focus on those differences.
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darmo
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posted May 16, 2009 04:19 AM

Same species = same chromosome arrangement
chromosome is a single piece of coiled DNA containing many genes
Male human = 46xy
Female human = 46xx
that's apply for all human race

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posted May 16, 2009 04:23 AM

@Darmo: Assuming that they are perfectly normal and have no alterations to their chromosome count, then yes, you are correct.

But someone with Down's Syndrome has three chromosomes in pair #21 (instead of the normal 2). They are still human.


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posted May 16, 2009 04:38 AM

I'm talking about normal human. All human race with down syndrom apply too
This thread seems like talking about Darwin's theory
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posted May 16, 2009 04:42 AM

@Darmo: Just clarifying. It's a habit of mine when the subject turns towards genetics. I like genetics a lot.
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posted May 21, 2009 10:56 AM

So Genetically what's the difference between the black and white?
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posted May 21, 2009 11:16 AM

The Melanocortin gene is the major difference (in skin colour) between black and white people. It simply makes black peoples skin darker (by creating more dark pigments) than whites, just to protect them from the sun. People from Africa and Australia (which are the major "black" continents) have been more exposed to the sun than white people and therefore adapted and created the MC1R-genes.  There are of course other genes that affect this, but I think this is the one that most sientist says are the one that makes the biggest differences.
Ouch! I just realized (again) what a nerd I am!

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winterfate
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posted May 21, 2009 11:18 AM

@Shares: Way to go! Embrace the nerdiness!

And well explained...I should be in bed by now...

*heads off to bed*
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posted May 21, 2009 11:19 AM
Edited by Shares at 11:20, 21 May 2009.

Already done, Winterfate! Already done...

EDIT: Oh, I'm not sure about red or yellow though. But I guess they have a gene creating yellow and red pigments. Duh!

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posted May 21, 2009 11:50 AM

And why black man have a 'shotgun' and yellow man have a 'pistol'?
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posted May 21, 2009 04:05 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 16:07, 21 May 2009.

Quote:
Same species = same chromosome arrangement
chromosome is a single piece of coiled DNA containing many genes
Male human = 46xy
Female human = 46xx
that's apply for all human race



Rat 42xx/xy
Rhesus Macaque 42xx/xy

There goes your theory. Those two aren't even in the same order, yet alone species.

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