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posted September 02, 2010 06:54 PM |
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Stephen Hawking -The Grand Design-
Stephen Hawking has written a new book, "The Grand Design".
Main idea:
God did not create the universe, because gravity means it would have happened on its own.
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Has anyone read this book yet? I've read it will be available in Germany at sept. 7th.
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posted September 02, 2010 07:15 PM |
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Nope, but from the bits I've gathered it's nothing new. Just a his latest views on the M-theory as I understand.
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posted September 02, 2010 08:12 PM |
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No, haven't read about this, and frankly, I think it's been too long since I delt with this kind of physics for me to truely understand it.
But it's interesting if there's actually a break-through in understanding Gravity and maybe even getting it combined with the other natural forces.
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posted September 02, 2010 08:28 PM |
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Breakthrough?
Umm...
Well...
The theory is from 94 or 92 if I recall correctly. What they've been doing for now has been systematical work. If there was something breakthroughish it would have been back in the nineties.
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posted September 02, 2010 08:34 PM |
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I'd probably read it if I understood advanced physics.
Actually, no, I probably wouldn't. I don't really care to read about theories of how the universe began, since I don't think it's linear.
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posted September 02, 2010 09:50 PM |
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Since it is impossible that matter is eternal there was no gravity around to create the uiniverse.
Atheism tends to drive one mad. Unfortunately it appears Hawkins is plunging over the edge.
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posted September 02, 2010 09:55 PM |
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posted September 02, 2010 10:18 PM |
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How do you know that, elodin?
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posted September 02, 2010 10:21 PM |
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Quote:
Hawkins
Not a typo.
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posted September 02, 2010 10:31 PM |
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posted September 02, 2010 10:38 PM |
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Well, Hawking is just some guy and he may or may not be right. However this
"God did not create the universe, because gravity means it would have happened on its own." type of logic is totally flawed. The two halves of that statement are entirely independent of each other. The existence of one does not verify nor disqualify the existence of the other.
As far as where the universe came from, it's nothing more than interesting trivia. Who cares? I don't care where the orange trees came from as long as it tastes good. My only interest is simple curiosity, but it's not a big deal.
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I think for a child to stare at the stars and "wonder" is more important than the actual answer.
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posted September 02, 2010 10:42 PM |
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Binabik, where does electricity come from?
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posted September 02, 2010 10:49 PM |
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Who cares?
(btw I have 2 degrees in electronics and was possibly the top student to ever go through that school, but I still don't care where it came from)
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posted September 02, 2010 10:57 PM |
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Well shouldn't you know at least that far as that electricity comes from the difference between two charges trying to balance themselves out?
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posted September 02, 2010 11:11 PM |
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Edited by Binabik at 23:13, 02 Sep 2010.
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It's helpful yes, but not necessary to understand it. It's probably more helpful as a learning tool than in actual application.
Another example might be magnetism. Magnetism is critical to electronics. It's especially critical to inductance. But what it is or where it came from, I have no clue. Nor do I really care other than curiosity.
I just don't see the whole "where did it come from?" question as being very important.
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posted September 02, 2010 11:37 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 23:43, 02 Sep 2010.
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I've just seen at the book shop, a book presenting 6 theories of how the universe may have been created
there (in french)
haven't read it
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it is impossible that matter is eternal
I think I remember reading that the matter can "die" indeed (though, I'm not sure it has been proven for everything)
if you take another approach, the matter can only exist relatively to the rest of the universe, so it must be affected by changes in the universe.
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posted September 03, 2010 08:27 AM |
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Atheism tends to drive one mad.
Doubtlessly an interesting philosophical insight.
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posted September 09, 2010 02:01 PM |
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Atheism tends to drive one mad. {/quote]
says the... thing with the invisible friend who will torture us for ever because the invisble friend loves us.
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posted September 16, 2010 05:54 PM |
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"Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing," Hawking writes.
I personally think this sentence shows that he's proving his intellectual superiority to other humans by trolling the living crap out of them.
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posted September 16, 2010 10:32 PM |
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Edited by Lexxan at 22:33, 16 Sep 2010.
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Since it is impossible that matter is eternal there was no gravity around to create the uiniverse.
It's nice meeting you, Einstein. :eyes
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Atheism tends to drive one mad. Unfortunately it appears Hawkins is plunging over the edge.
Statements like that basically confirm the dire need of a "Eye Rolling" Smiley. So All Atheists are becoming mad over time? I honestly don't know whether I should laugh or cry.
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