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xerox
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posted November 23, 2010 05:49 PM |
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For H7 (lol) I would like:
HAVEN (Victorian era themed)
Core: Grey Guard, Gargoyle, Musketeer
Elite: Griffin, Exorcist, Steam Engine
Champion: Angel
Neutral: Militia (core), Cavalier (elite), Templar (Champion)
INFERNO (Ancient Egyptian themed)
Core: Devourer (gluttony), Ammit (wrath), Overseer (sloth)
Elite: Efreet (greed), Succubus (lust), Pit Fiend (envy)
Champion: Devil (pride)
Neutral: Imp (core), Nephilim (elite), Brood Mother (champion)
NECROPOLIS (Aztec themed)
Core: Anubith, Zombi, Loa
Elite: Lamasu, Soul Hunter, Caplata (female lich)
Champion: Rakshasa
Neutral: Fungaling (core), Wraith (elite), Fate Weaver (champion)
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
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- John Stuart Mill
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evinin
Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
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posted November 23, 2010 06:11 PM |
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Edited by evinin at 18:13, 23 Nov 2010.
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Xerox's ideas are good, I would also like to play with factions that look like that.  The best idea is that the Inferno's creatures represent the Seven Deadly Sins.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 23, 2010 06:54 PM |
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I would love a jungle/swamp faction that looked like this; there is a jungle tileset, so I'm thinking we will get a town for it, and the Aztec-themed HoMM III Fortress fits perfectly.
Town Name: Bastion/Ziggurat
Theme: Lizardmen town, with an Aztec theme; many temples, tiered structures, and animal motifs.
Core: Pincer, Lizardman Archer (shooter), Serpent Fly (flyer)
Elite: Basilisk, Gorgon, Lizardman High Priest (caster/shooter)
Champion: Quetzalcoatl (flyer) or Hydra, depending on whether Hydra stays with Dungeon.
Racial Ability: Blood Rituals-Bastion/Ziggurat heroes can sacrifice creatures to confer strong buffs onto their creatures or themselves.
Hmmm, I like the idea of the racial, but sacrificing creatures when no other towns have to for their racial seems like it could weaken it a little; any thoughts? I think it is unique and fitting for the theme but want to make sure it's balanced.
Pincers should resemble something like Mirelurks from Fallout: armored crustaceans with large claws. Mirelurk
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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radox
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posted November 23, 2010 07:31 PM |
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Please people, please, please, please, please, I beg you to the bottom of my heart, to the bottom of my soul, please STOP inventing names for creatures! I am crying and begging you!
What the hell are Ammit, Loa, Caplata, Incarnate, Darkmantle, Crimson Ooze, Marzanna, Giant monstrous undead Spider, Greenvise, Mimic, Pazuzu.
How do you suppose such *strange* stuff to appear in a game like Heroes? Creatures in these series must be based on true, well-knows mythologies, not on local ones, because they must feel more familiar to the general public. That sells.
I do not mean to offend anyone, but proposing such weird names is ... not serious.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 23, 2010 07:33 PM |
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Quetzalcoatl is a real name, for what it's worth. 
It's an Aztec snake deity, if I recall correctly.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 23, 2010 07:38 PM |
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Edited by jabanoss at 19:40, 23 Nov 2010.
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"female rider, all dark elves are female"
haaha okey
Like SwampLords Ideas, but maybe without the lizard high priest thing as an elite, the lizard priests should be heroes instead.
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Please people, please, please, please, please, I beg you to the bottom of my heart, to the bottom of my soul, please STOP inventing names for creatures! I am crying and begging you!
What the hell are Ammit, Loa, Caplata, Incarnate, Darkmantle, Crimson Ooze, Marzanna, Giant monstrous undead Spider, Greenvise, Mimic, Pazuzu.
How do you suppose such *strange* stuff to appear in a game like Heroes? Creatures in these series must be based on true, well-knows mythologies, not on local ones, because they must feel more familiar to the general public. That sells.
I do not mean to offend anyone, but proposing such weird names is ... not serious.
Yes this
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Quetzalcoatl is a real name, for what it's worth.
It's an Aztec snake deity, if I recall correctly.
maybe with a new, better name then? 
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Mimic is one of the most famous (used by other games extremly well) of D&D monsters, if they use the iron bull gorgon, they can also rent the Mimic from D&D, lufia, golden sun, diablo, many games used mimics already.
so what does a Mimic do, and where in diablo are they ?
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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bludgeon
Known Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 07:40 PM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 19:47, 23 Nov 2010.
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Incarnate, Darkmantle, Crimson Ooze, Marzanna, Mimic, Pazuzu.
Didn't "invent" any of those.
Incarnate is there in a dicationary among others like priest or knight.
Darkmantle, crimson ooze and mimic are from Dungeons & Dragons. Heroes 3 already had a monster from D&D, it was the beholder.
Marzanna is from slavic mythology.
Pazuzu is also from mythology, though I don't remember from which one. It's a sort of flying demonic critter.
I'm surprised you didn't pick on tlaloc  . It's a aztec deity of rain IIRC.
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How do you suppose such *strange* stuff to appear in a game like Heroes? Creatures in these series must be based on true, well-knows mythologies, not on local ones, because they must feel more familiar to the general public. That sells.
You mean, like magogs, pit fiends, beholders, serpent flies, and rakshasas?
MARZANNA
CRIMSON OOZE
LEONAL AND TLALOC
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jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 23, 2010 08:06 PM |
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Edited by jabanoss at 20:08, 23 Nov 2010.
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I already posted a picture of a mimic.
but I posted before you edited, HA HA ;P
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I think the leonal creature you are talking about looks like this:
Centaur lions are known as Liontaur (from Quest for Glory) or Wemic (D&D).
that creature would fit awesomely in a savanna-faction, one of the many themes they are missing
there maybe the gnolls also could find a home
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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bludgeon
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posted November 23, 2010 08:36 PM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 20:37, 23 Nov 2010.
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Here's a couple of creatures I'd like to see (no matter in which factions, or neutral):
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 09:32 PM |
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Edited by MattII at 21:35, 23 Nov 2010.
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Ammit
Ancient Egyptian, appears in the Book Of The freakin' Dead (c. 1550 BC), so it's one of the oldest out there.
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Loa
Spirits of the Voodoo religion.
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Caplata
Not too sure about this one, although it may be a derivative of Cipactli, a giant crocodile of Aztec mythology.
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Incarnate
Derived from Incarnation, meaning embodied in flesh this can generally be seen as a god in disguise.
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Darkmantle
DnD creature.
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Crimson Ooze
Not a DnD creature although Grey Ooze is.
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Marzanna
Slavic goddess associated with death, winter and the harvest.
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Giant monstrous undead Spider
May come from the Greek legend of Arachne, who was turned into a spider by Athena, although this isn't certain.
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Greenvise
DnD creature.
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Mimic
DnD creature.
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Pazuzu
King of the demons of the wind in Babylonian and Assyrian mythology.
Yes, I was nerdish enough to check up on this.
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How do you suppose such *strange* stuff to appear in a game like Heroes? Creatures in these series must be based on true, well-knows mythologies, not on local ones, because they must feel more familiar to the general public. That sells.
Get stuffed, all the common stuff is clichéd as hell, so why not pull a few more obscure references out?
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 09:48 PM |
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Caplata is a female Voodoo sorceress that is involved with black magic and zombies etc.
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Over himself, over his own
body and
mind, the individual is
sovereign.
- John Stuart Mill
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 10:03 PM |
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Quote:
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I think the leonal creature you are talking about looks like this:
Centaur lions are known as Liontaur (from Quest for Glory) or Wemic (D&D).
that creature would fit awesomely in a savanna-faction, one of the many themes they are missing
there maybe the gnolls also could find a home
I like the idea of gnolls, but not so much this guy, lions are already overdone as status symbols IMO, I don't want another 'lions as proud warriors' race.
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jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 23, 2010 10:26 PM |
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Edited by jabanoss at 22:33, 23 Nov 2010.
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Easy fix, change the lions face/head into the that of a baboon (or something else of course )
But yeah lions are overdone especially since the academy has the Rakshasa
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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blizz
Known Hero
of temper grace
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posted November 23, 2010 10:28 PM |
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Only one (haven) creature left to be revealed. What will it be people?
My guess is a swordsman, like the one on H5 cover.
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bludgeon
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posted November 23, 2010 10:35 PM |
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My guess is a swordsman, like the one on H5 cover.
I'm betting Loxodon
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted November 23, 2010 11:07 PM |
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Easy fix, change the lions face/head into the that of a baboon (or something else of course )
Won't work, the body shapes are too distinctive.
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But yeah lions are overdone especially since the academy has the Rakshasa
Oh, it's not that I don't want to see lions, I just don't want to see them as a race, I'm perfectly happy with them, wolves and a few others (maybe water buffalo) appearing as 'true' neutrals (ie, won't ever join you).
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 12:45 AM |
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 24, 2010 01:48 AM |
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"female rider, all dark elves are female"
haaha okey
Like SwampLords Ideas, but maybe without the lizard high priest thing as an elite, the lizard priests should be heroes instead.
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Please people, please, please, please, please, I beg you to the bottom of my heart, to the bottom of my soul, please STOP inventing names for creatures! I am crying and begging you!
What the hell are Ammit, Loa, Caplata, Incarnate, Darkmantle, Crimson Ooze, Marzanna, Giant monstrous undead Spider, Greenvise, Mimic, Pazuzu.
How do you suppose such *strange* stuff to appear in a game like Heroes? Creatures in these series must be based on true, well-knows mythologies, not on local ones, because they must feel more familiar to the general public. That sells.
I do not mean to offend anyone, but proposing such weird names is ... not serious.
Yes this
Quote:
Quetzalcoatl is a real name, for what it's worth.
It's an Aztec snake deity, if I recall correctly.
maybe with a new, better name then?
Quote:
Mimic is one of the most famous (used by other games extremly well) of D&D monsters, if they use the iron bull gorgon, they can also rent the Mimic from D&D, lufia, golden sun, diablo, many games used mimics already.
so what does a Mimic do, and where in diablo are they ?
What's wrong with Quetzalcoatl as a name? I think it's very fitting for an Aztec faction, quite flavorful, and all-around a fine name.
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 24, 2010 08:40 AM |
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Okey you're right, I just meant that if a creature happen to have a name that is to weird the developers can always change the name and give their own twist to the unit.
Quetzalcoatl - yeah i guess the name is fine, man I need to learn more Aztec mythology. :/
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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mytheroes
Famous Hero
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posted November 24, 2010 10:07 AM |
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Last Haven creature the Radiant Glory aka "Flaming/Shining Lady" from the sveltana poster is up.
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