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mytheroes
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posted November 22, 2010 03:21 PM |
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Maybe the Imps will still steal mana from heroes and then the Breeder can regenerate according to how much mana the Imps steal.
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jabanoss
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posted November 22, 2010 03:22 PM |
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wouldn't it be more horrible if it was male?
yeah that would be horrible if anything XD
The imps will probably by shot like a projectile and then become a temporally unit next to the target in the same way as the Brood Lord from Starcraft 2 shots its' broodlings.
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Mitzah
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posted November 22, 2010 03:23 PM |
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Great versatility, but I don't like this creature's design too much.
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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted November 22, 2010 04:01 PM |
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I find this creature design pure win. 
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted November 22, 2010 04:24 PM |
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Considering the (Mother) Breeder, I'd like to quote the great philosopher Strong Bad when he say: "Needless to said, I was perplexed, and intriguéd." It's cool, in a weird tentacle-sorta way.
I'm realy looking forward to seeing what this thing does, as I do with many of the units. But this one realy tops the I-don't-gettit Scale.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted November 22, 2010 05:43 PM |
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There you have it kids, the Kreegan Queen is back in business 
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Maken
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Hail Hydra!
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posted November 22, 2010 07:17 PM |
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But this one realy tops the I-don't-gettit Scale.
Don't worry, Shub-Niggurath will get you, then.
Maybe to not overpopulate the battlefield with imps they really shoot or use an ability to eat them.
But I'd love to see a battlefield full of imps and the opponent all "FUUUUU" 
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FuntimeManchop
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Adventure!
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posted November 22, 2010 08:20 PM |
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Anyone noticing that Imps have the same mouth/vagina as the Breeders they come out of? Does this mean that Imps can produce tiny tiny little demonic insects?
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted November 22, 2010 08:25 PM |
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Maybe they should be called Fractal Breeders.
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FuntimeManchop
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Adventure!
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posted November 22, 2010 08:29 PM |
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Maybe. The demonic insects would have to make little demonic bedbugs which make microscopic demonic plankton.
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radox
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posted November 22, 2010 09:01 PM |
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LOL @ above posts 
I want to ask you what do you think of the Tormentor? How will it attack? If it is not a shooter, it will be very similar to the Juggernaut, which is not a good thing. And what do you think about the fact that Inferno doesn't have a single flyer (besides probably the Imps)?
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vitorsly
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Joker!
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posted November 22, 2010 09:07 PM |
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The tormentor and the jugernaught?
I think that the Jugernaught is a really strong and brute demon while the tormentor looks more fast and slicing.
Like slow- Fast and 80 hp- 40 Hp so I cant copare them.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted November 22, 2010 09:29 PM |
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But this one realy tops the I-don't-gettit Scale.
Don't worry, Shub-Niggurath will get you, then.
A hero cookie to Maken for figuring it out
Doubt units will have so much difference, it was stated that stats will be similar except each unit would have a different role.
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FuntimeManchop
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Adventure!
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posted November 22, 2010 11:50 PM |
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In the description, it says Juggernaughts rush blindly into battle. Does that mean Juggernaughts are fast and rusher-like? Juggernaughts appear to be massive and I would expect that they do considerable damage. High HP, damage and speed. I've been wondering what Tormentors must do to put themselves in the same league as Juggernauts ever since they announced it was an Elite. I would expect them to have less HP, less speed and perhaps the same damage.
I suspect Juggernaughts won't have much in the area of special abilities due to them being made of brute-force. Perhaps Tormentors have some sort of pain mirror? that might put the two on par, because I do not in any way see them as shooters.
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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
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posted November 23, 2010 12:00 AM |
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I doubt they will stick to this similar stats thing very strictly, it will just create too many ineptitudes and make each tier boring. A Priestess can't possibly match the combat capabilities of a Sentinel, so the latter has to have clearly superior Attack, Defense, HP and damage or at least most of these. The abilities are another matter though and most likely they will be the main "equalizer". The pile of muscles that is the Juggernaut looks fully qualified to smash through any other Inferno creature apart from the Pit Fiend if the abilities are not taken into account and probably this will be the case (not that the Horned Demon wasn't the most pathetic pile of muscles in the video game industry actually).
What I am really curious about is how strong is the Champion of each faction compared to the other tiers.
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xerox
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posted November 23, 2010 12:03 AM |
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I am imagining the Juggernaut to be some kind of front-line tank. Instead of standing in front of your own shooters or something like that, they rush up to the enemy and soak damage. But that is just personal speculation.
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Jabanoss
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Property of Nightterror™
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posted November 23, 2010 12:08 AM |
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I think it depends a lot on how the balance the abilities. For example if the pit lord is still going to be a caster, and the spells are going to have the same bad increase in power as the pit lords increases in numbers. then I think the Celestial or the Fate Weaver is going to be so much stronger in big numbers and the pit lord only strong in small numbers :/
But hopefully they will balance all the abilities as much as possible.
Edit: Sometimes I truly find the words
anyways I hope you know what I mean
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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
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posted November 23, 2010 12:15 AM |
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I meant something else - the strenght of each Champion compared to the strenght of the other creatures from the same faction. As the Champion is the only tier which is "alone" and don't have to be balanced with other creatures from the same tier (except those from the other factions), they can make him/her significantly stronger than the rest - enough to be like a tier 7 creature.
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Bludgeon
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posted November 23, 2010 02:53 PM |
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Nightterror, I like most of your ideas for crits, I'd like to show my dream lineup:
Aligned creatures are neutrals, but can also be drafted from special buildings in the city or on the map. They are considered factional for morale effects.
HAVEN
Core: Sentinel, Priestess, Marksman
Elite: Griffon, Sun Rider, Leonal (lion-man, 4legged like centaur)
Champ: Angel
Aligned: Guard Hound (core), Witch Hunter (core), Valkyrie (elite)
INFERNO
Core: Gnoll (hyena-like demon skirmisher), Cerberus, Succubus
Elite: Spawner (breeder), Juggernaut, Pazuzu (flying demon)
Champ: Pit Fiend
Aligned: Magog (core), Salamander (core), Efreet (elite)
NECROPOLIS
Core: Skeleton, Ghoul, Wraith
Elite: Lich, Vampire, Lamasu
Champ: Fate Weaver
Aligned: Lost Soul (flying flaming skull, core), Mummy (core), Abomination (huge thing made of body parts, elite)
RAMPART
Core: Satyr, Pixie, Elf (archer)
Elite: Druid, Treeman, Unicorn (with spellcasting elf virgin)
Champ: Force of Nature (earth/wood elemental)
Aligned: Rusalka (river spirit, core), Panther (core), Giant Eagle (elite)
UNNAMED NAGA FACTION
Core: Ceremonial Guard (naga with 4 swords), Lizardman (more crocodile-like), Basilisk
Elite: Couatl (rainbow-colored flying serpent), Hydra, Incarnate (naga mage-priest)
Champ: Tyrannosaurus 
Aligned: Tlaloc (primitive bird-man, core), Archeopteryx (core), Medusa (elite)
FIRST EXPANSION
ACADEMY
Core: Gladiator, Golem, Sand Devil (bound air elemental)
Elite: Evoker (mage oriented on energy spells), Djinn, Rakshasa
Champ: Titan
Aligned: Gremlin Tinkerer (core), Gargoyle, Triskelion (a tower-like construct, elite)
SECOND EXPANSION
STRONGHOLD
Core: Goblin Wolf Rider (fast and leaves traps, upgrade adds 2nd goblin with bow), Centaur, Troll
Elite: Berserker (orc), Hag (cursed orc shaman), Roc
Champ: Cyclops
Aligned: Harpy (core), Werejackal (core), Giant Scorpion (elite)
THIRD EXPANSION
DUNGEON
Core: Assassin (dark elf), Minotaur, Darkmantle (flying manta-like being)
Elite: Evil Eye, Manticore, Sorceress (dark elf, infested with fungi)
Champ: Faceless
Aligned: Mimic (core), Myconid (fungus-ridden crazed mutant), Crimson Ooze (elite)
FOURTH EXPANSION
RIDGE - coalition of northern races against common threat
Core: Mountaineer (dwarf), Viking, Drake (with frost breath)
Elite: Dwarf hunter with Polar Bear, Marzanna (winter witch), Yeti (stone throwing)
Champ: Behemoth (tamed with dwarf-made runic collar)
Aligned: Gnome (core), ?? (core), Wendigo (elite)
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veco
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who am I?
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posted November 23, 2010 03:21 PM |
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Champ: Tyrannosaurus
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