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Foonlegacy
Hired Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 12:42 AM |
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The goblins and orcs look awesome, I even like the names they chose for them (Goblin/Goblin Hunter and Mauler/Crusher). Harpies and Centaurs in the same town is awesome and probably the one thing I liked from H4's stronghold. Shamans look awesome garbed in Aztec inspired outfits. The ogres with claws are good, a throw back to the Behemoths as someone said. One is garbed in jaguar pelt and another a panther pelt, maybe call them Jaguar Warrior/Panther Warrior? Haven't seen the Cyclops yet.
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FuntimeManchop
Adventuring Hero
Adventure!
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posted December 17, 2010 02:40 AM |
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Why are all the female units so skinny???
Not that I want to get an eye-load of flabby fun, but where are the curves?
The design for the females, especially with the Succubus and Centaur all seem to be unhealthily skrawny with horribly thin waists in an attempt to 'look hot. BLEUGH.
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radox
Known Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 09:00 AM |
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What Centaurs are you talking about? There aren't Centaurs in the game yet.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 09:04 AM |
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Quote: What Centaurs are you talking about? There aren't Centaurs in the game yet.
Check the news & discussion threads, the whole Stronghold lineup was revealed via screenshots.
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defxon2
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 17, 2010 09:21 AM |
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Edited by defxon2 at 09:24, 17 Dec 2010.
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new units for stronghold:
centaur(female)
shaman
cyclops
and some giant orc wearing leopard print. could be ogre.
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Zazu1
Adventuring Hero
Makes Sense
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posted December 17, 2010 10:28 PM |
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He gets my vote for the remaining Stronghold unit
But srsly, no moar orc or orcish units plzz
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radox
Known Hero
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posted December 23, 2010 04:25 PM |
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In case you missed them, here are the official names of the Elite cretures of Stronghold:
Centaur -> Centaur Marauder
Dreamwalker -> Dreamreaver
Jaguar Warrior -> Panther Warrior
Cyclops -> Enraged Cyclops
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whiterider
Known Hero
death walks with me
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posted December 23, 2010 05:05 PM |
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Where has been that confirmed? The Reaver is too cool name to be wasted on some sort of a Shaman I was hoping that the Faceless champion is called that way - Reaver- Soul Reaver But anyway
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 23, 2010 05:26 PM |
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^On Facebook, they added the already seen Stronghold screenshots and each pic got a description, with those creature names confirmed. The Cyclops was confirmed earlier, via artwork.
Oh and they also wrote that rest of Stronghold artwork will be posted early 2011.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted December 23, 2010 07:30 PM |
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@Nightterror I yet again agree with you 100%. Not to mention the Medusa wasn't EVEN in H5 As many other unique and iconic creatures, e.g. Nightmare, Efreet, Thunderbird, Manticore, etc.
The H6 factions look more or less good (except Stronghold that's swarming with Orcs, easily could be replaced by the more interesting Wyverns, Rocs, Behemoths, whatever.) The spirit of monotony and boredom from Haven in previous HOMMs seems to have returned in H6 Stronghold...the only creature I like is the Harpy, maybe Centaur, and maybe Cyclops (although I personally thing they pushed it too far, H5 one looked just right, now it's a pile of deformed meat that resembles Abomination from Warcraft, only with one eye...it's OK though.
What have they done to the Manticore (Lamassu)? Although the Lamassu is a great creature, it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening or interesting as if it had an ACTUAL lion face. They ruined Manticore...
And I hope some awesome creatures like Faerie Dragon, Bone Dragon, the ones I mentioned before, will return in H6.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 08:11 AM |
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Quote: What have they done to the Manticore (Lamassu)? Although the Lamassu is a great creature, it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening or interesting as if it had an ACTUAL lion face. They ruined Manticore...
They are two completely different creatures from different origins, Manticore doesn't even have a human element. Lamasu being in the game has nothing to do with Manticore cut or "ruined".
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radox
Known Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 08:33 AM |
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Edited by radox at 08:34, 24 Dec 2010.
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Quote:
Quote: What have they done to the Manticore (Lamassu)? Although the Lamassu is a great creature, it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening or interesting as if it had an ACTUAL lion face. They ruined Manticore...
They are two completely different creatures from different origins, Manticore doesn't even have a human element. Lamasu being in the game has nothing to do with Manticore cut or "ruined".
Anyway, I don't think that there will be a Manticore in the game, because it look WAY TOO similar to the Lamasu. There's no need to put two nearly identical creatures in the game.
As for Stronghold - unfortunately they made the same mistake like in H5 - the town is swarming with monotonous, stupid orcs and again there are tons of female units!!! The shaman is ok, but what the hell is the PANTHER WARRIOR? Instead of putting this crap, they could have very well put in a Thunderbird or a Wyvern, because the faction now doesn't have a single Elite flyer!
P.S. - Female Centaur = most stupid thing ever.
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mytheroes
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 09:03 AM |
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Quote: and again there are tons of female units!!!
2 out of 7 equals "tons" for you?
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 11:54 AM |
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Quote:
Quote: What have they done to the Manticore (Lamassu)? Although the Lamassu is a great creature, it doesn't look anywhere near as threatening or interesting as if it had an ACTUAL lion face. They ruined Manticore...
They are two completely different creatures from different origins, Manticore doesn't even have a human element. Lamasu being in the game has nothing to do with Manticore cut or "ruined".
It's funny you say something like that, since Lamassu and Manticore are IDENTICAL, except Manticore has a LION face, whereas the Lamassu is a Manticore (undead, ok) with a stupid, boring HUMAN face.
How can you say they're completely different? They are both lions, have a scorpion tail, mane, wings, the only difference now is that Ubisoft messed the face up in H6.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 24, 2010 12:06 PM |
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The mythological Manticore looks like a wingless Lamassu, but is not necessarily female. Still it comes from roughly the same part of the world and although it is not the same thing as the Lamassu/Shedu, they share some similarities. I don't think the devs had the Manticore in mind when they designed the Necropolis Lamassu though.
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted December 24, 2010 12:10 PM |
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Quote: Well actually the manticore has a warlock (human) face in their true legends and in D&D, so the homm3 creatures were actually the false ones Chimera has a lions head, but sphinx, Lamasu and manticores all have human faces.
Even though I of course believe you, I still prefer the cool "false" ones, than the real but cursed with a boring human face "real" one.
I'm not trying to say anything, but legends ARE JUST legends, bending them just a little tiny bit by (e.g. giving a Lamassu/Manticore a lion face) wouldn't be a crime, while seriously, it'll look a whole lot more interesting.
Human faces are just as boring as humanoids themselves.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted December 24, 2010 05:38 PM |
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i actually have a feeling that
Jaguar/Panther warrior will be awesome creature when the game is released.. i wish it is Ogre not Orc , but to be honest only in sake of having less Orcs in faction...
otherwise what is important for me is the skills/abilities of this creature.. i have a feeling it's not just Slayer from H5 with only brute force and all..
Shaman will be interesting unit, it's a caster in the end of the day..
Centaur.. here are my worries... I hope they will come up with something new rather then just a shooter...
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vitorsly
Known Hero
Joker!
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posted December 24, 2010 07:47 PM |
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What I think of this stronghold:
Whatever they say for me the panther/Jaguar warrior will always be an ogre just like H5 slayer.
Female centaurs are fine for me.
the shamans are the casters an as every faction has atleast one now I am not surprised.
Goblins are just GREAT. They are sneacky and more clever than an orc could ever be (shamans not included)
Harpy is great to get now. She needed to get her blood fury disquise of.
Crusher is the brute orc. Nothing new.
Cyclop is the cyclop and a stronghold withaut a cyclop is weird.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted December 25, 2010 02:18 AM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 02:24, 25 Dec 2010.
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I like the Age of Mythology version of the Manticore the best.
A red lion with bat wings, a poisonous tail and most importantly a VIRGIN FACE WITH BLUE EYES AND HUMAN EARS!
Edit: (hmm the virgin part I just made up, but is sounds cooler )
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"You turn me on Jaba"
- Meroe
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 25, 2010 07:31 AM |
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Quote: It's funny you say something like that, since Lamassu and Manticore are IDENTICAL, except Manticore has a LION face, whereas the Lamassu is a Manticore (undead, ok) with a stupid, boring HUMAN face.
How can you say they're completely different? They are both lions, have a scorpion tail, mane, wings, the only difference now is that Ubisoft messed the face up in H6.
You're missing the point. It's not "Ubi messing up with the face" that created another creature, it's a different creature altogether from different origins. It's a Mesopotamian deity originally but in Heroes this is a member of the beast-men while Manticore cannot be a beast-man since it lacks human element.
But if you think they are almost the same, then that's saying an elf is basically the same as a human, just "Ubi messed up the ears".
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