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gnomes2169
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posted December 24, 2011 12:37 AM |
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6. 1
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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posted December 24, 2011 10:31 AM |
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1. Ambition 0-100
2. Cleanness 0-100
3. Creativity 0-75
4. Freedom 0-90
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posted December 24, 2011 01:44 PM |
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Cleanliness-80
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posted December 24, 2011 01:47 PM |
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Edited by maral at 13:48, 24 Dec 2011.
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posted December 24, 2011 01:48 PM |
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posted December 24, 2011 01:49 PM |
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Jiriki9
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posted December 26, 2011 10:50 AM |
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So, for Haven social Order. I think here, we got quite much given, allready.
-Their Religion is clearly dominant in the Haven society:
"THe most inhabitants of Haven are Monotheists. They belief that there is one God, who has no name (names are to earthly for HIM), but is, by most, only called "the Creator".
The Creator is believed to be a lovefull father for his people, the
inhabitants of Haven, offering them salvation and forgiveness. On the
other hand, it is common belief he wishes everyone on this world to
worship him, and only him: Conversion is one of the main duty of a
believer in the creator. This goes as far as war: though a loving father to those who believe in him, the creator has no problem with coming to the "infidels" with fire and blade, facing them with the decision: Believe or Die
It is notable that, however, there are some other figures nearly
worshipped: the prophets, and the saints. THe prophets were
historical figures, who are believed to have spoken the word of the
Creator. Saints are historical figures as well, but unlike prophets, they are only declared saint after death, for different reasons, usually when having done something seen as very "worthy", and this declaration is allways an official one. Also saints do not necessarily hear and speak the words of the Creator.
For the hierarchy of the Creator's clergy, there is no single person as leader or central figure, but the religion's leading organ is the
Tribunal of Ascendance, which composes of a pack (11-20) of
clerics."
-most havens are part of a big nation in Southwest Magis, the Sacred Empire of Agrynell. Agrynell is ruled by the Sacred Emperor Rolv Harring, currently in his late 50s
So, first, important question. What it the socialstatus of the Tribunal of Ascendance?
They are valued almost highest, are even a counterpart to the Emperor
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They are just beneath the Emperor in social status
OR
They are beneath the Emperor and a few beings of a VERY high status
OR
They are just the highest of the clergy, otherwise, they have no special social position
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posted December 26, 2011 03:50 PM |
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They are below the Emperor with a few having great influence, almost enough to rival the Emperor's from time to time.
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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posted December 26, 2011 03:58 PM |
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Quote:
They are below the Emperor with a few having great influence, almost enough to rival the Emperor's from time to time.
Oh, good answer, we already see a conflict building here. 
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posted December 26, 2011 04:43 PM |
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indeed.
1. What status do Angels have in this society?
No special status by their race
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They have generally a high status and many possess high positions, can be priests and even members of the
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They are the highest "caste" below the Emperor, the Tribunal and some sinle perosns
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a BETTER idea by you
2. Is there a "Nobility" in Haven
Yes
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Not really, only the whole clergy function similar to a nobility in comparison to the rest of society
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No
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posted December 26, 2011 04:48 PM |
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1. Depends. Most angels are born into high positions, and are part of ancient families. However, they can be evicted, just like any human if they do not perform well enough. Sometimes, the heads of ancient families will disown their children, and they are considered "freaks" and "mutants". Sometimes you can even see an angel begging on the streets, though that level of poverty is rare indeed.
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posted December 26, 2011 04:49 PM |
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2. YES.
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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posted December 26, 2011 06:12 PM |
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I like both statements.
1. So, I think the nobility, for logic, will be composed of the ancient families, but it may also be composed of others as well...but of whom? Choose 1- of the following
The Emperor can grant titles and Land to riase someone into Nobility
AND/OR
The Tribunal of Ascendance can grant titles and Land to riase someone into Nobility
AND/OR
Any Noble can grant lower titles to anyone they see worthy
AND/OR
there are defined worthfull deeds which can heighten you into the rank of a noble
AND/OR
There are held tournaments every X Years to grant low noble titles to the victor.
2. Also, shall Adoption also rise the adopted into the rank of the adopting family?
Yes
OR
No
3. Are there more than 1 "class" below the Nobility?
No
OR
Yes (choose 2-4)
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posted December 26, 2011 06:31 PM |
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2. Again, depends, both on the parent's jurisdiction and society's opinion of the person. I.e. if you adopt a six year old boy whose father was killed defending the empire, you would most likely give him the rank; if, on the other hand, you adopted a dark elf whose father tried to assassinate the king, you definitely wouldn't give him the rank.
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posted December 26, 2011 06:32 PM |
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1. So, I think the nobility, for logic, will be composed of the ancient families, but it may also be composed of others as well...but of whom? Choose 1- of the following
The Emperor can grant titles and Land to riase someone into Nobility
AND/OR
The Tribunal of Ascendance can grant titles and Land to riase someone into Nobility
AND/OR
Any Noble can grant lower titles to anyone they see worthy
AND/OR
there are defined worthfull deeds which can heighten you into the rank of a noble
AND/OR
There are held tournaments every X Years to grant low noble titles to the victor.
2. Are there more than 1 "class" below the Nobility?
No
OR
Yes (choose 2-4)
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posted December 26, 2011 06:36 PM |
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1. Any noble can grant as long as they deem the person worthy and as long as the Emperor + Tribunal don't raise objections. If the emperor agrees but the Tribunal doesn't, the person isn't allowed to become the rank. Same if the tribunal agrees but the emperor doesn't. However, for the tribunal to overrule the emperor, it must be more than 9/10 of them.
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posted December 26, 2011 06:38 PM |
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Are there more than 1 "class" below the Nobility?
No
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Yes (choose 2-4)
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posted December 26, 2011 06:39 PM |
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posted December 26, 2011 06:43 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 18:52, 26 Dec 2011.
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2. Peasants function as serfs dependent on their lords, are subject to various duties such as nobles' Primae Noctis right, and require permission to leave their land. Burghers, or citizens (merchants, members of city guilds etc) are "free men", meaning they (or, in the practical case of most craftsmen, their guilds) are entitled to the fruits of their labour. Should a free citizen fall beneath the poverty line, and if no guild is willing to hire him, he is obliged to report (or be reported) to the authorities and sent to a feudal lord's estate as a worker, his freedom considered to be the payment for the mercy of the good lord that embraced him under his protection. Failing to do so is a criminal offense, but the practice nonetheless thrives among the populace falling below the line, yet desperately hoping to quickly gain enough wealth to keep enjoying the privileges of free citizenship (often resorting to illegal loansharking and the like). This, as well as problems in workforce demand, administration as well as corruption of officials often lead to the forming of slums, illegal refugee colonies, or even underground slave markets.
Am I doing it wrong? Not supposed to go in this much detail or something? Mind you, I was out of this for the first 200 pages.
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