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khalbrae
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posted June 19, 2011 01:35 PM |
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Edited by khalbrae at 13:36, 19 Jun 2011.
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The extra software though would probably make things sound really sweet though, like midi, or allowing surround sound, or auto pitch correction, etc.
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Azagal
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posted July 11, 2011 06:34 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 18:35, 11 Jul 2011.
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Alright my Exams are right arround the corner so I've done mostly all I can. Now some of my most loyal group of followers scandinavian friends decided to come visit me for a week together with Dagoth. Now as long as I can keep them in my apartment I'm determined to exploit their knowledge about pcs. Ergo I need to buy all the neccesary parts (that work together) to make a good pc (good meaning it can run current generation games with ease (like the Witcher 2 for example)). Now do you by any chance know a website where I can look at proucts? So that I just have to go to a retail store and get the stuff.
I've realized so far that I shoul start with the motherboard and then look for things that work together with it smoothly but then again I have no idea what makes a good motherboard a good motherboard and I don't trust the salesmen lol. So any ideas? I have until the 5th to get all the stuff to my house.
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Adrius
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posted July 11, 2011 06:42 PM |
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I use this.
Affordable and works great, also looks pretty cool imo. Manual was very helpful for me as a first time builder.
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Azagal
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posted July 11, 2011 06:52 PM |
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Alright whatever it says about the card sounds great but I have next to no idea what it means. I'll take your word for it though.
What about the price is 85 € ok? Sounds pretty reasonable since the motherboard is probably the most exspensive part right?
And my apologies to the more knowledgeable people in here some of the stuff I say may be very facepalmy but you know since I have no ****ing clue about this stuff I'd rather ask people who know and sound stupid .
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Azagal
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posted July 11, 2011 06:56 PM |
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Ok nevermind can someone tell me all the components I need? I think that would make the searching part a lot easier .
So I need:
A motherboard
A processor (?)
A Graphics card
A Sound card (?)
A Case
and...?
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Adrius
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posted July 11, 2011 07:04 PM |
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Edited by Adrius at 19:17, 11 Jul 2011.
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- DVD player
- RAM
- PSU
- Harddrive
You can skip the sound card.
And yeah, that price for that motherboard sounds about right. It's an AMD board since I like those better than Intel processors though... depending on what ya like better you might wanna change it.
AMD has a cooler logo... that's about the only argument I can come up with in favour ^^
I think AMD and Intel are about equal. I use an AMD Phenom II X2 560 processor, though you might wanna go for an AMD Phenom II X4 840 instead; more future-friendly and still very high performance for its price.
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I can recommend an Antec Three Hundred Midi Tower for the case btw. It's one stylish mofo. Very easy to build in with nice spaces to put all those cables hanging around. The included fans are quiet with nice airflow. I installed two fans in the front that sucks in air while the ones at the back and top blow it out, so ya get a pretty nice airflow while the filter at the front doesn't let even a bit of dust into the computer. You can remove the filter very easily and just put it in water so it's very easy to clean too. A nice detail with these "hundred" cases is that the PSU is installed at the bottom, which I don't really get why other cases don't do  Feels way more convenient than hanging that box in the roof...
Also... if you can get your hands on one, buy a Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB GDDR5 for a graphics card. Most bang for buck there is on the market as far as I know. Radeon is on the 6000 series right now, but Sapphire rebuilt the older architecture and released it for an insanely good price. It rivals many of the top cards in the 6000 series actually, so it's really a no-brainer if you're looking for performance/price. Get it while you can, seriously.
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Sounds pretty reasonable since the motherboard is probably the most exspensive part right?
Nope, that will likely be the graphics card.
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Azagal
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posted July 11, 2011 07:54 PM |
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Thank you so much man you're my hero <3. I shall prepare adequate offerings once I'm on my way to assemble my Death Star Computer.
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Zenofex
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posted July 11, 2011 08:30 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 20:31, 11 Jul 2011.
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Nope, that will likely be the graphics card.
Actually in most cases the processor is the most expensive piece. Of course there are video cards which cost a fortune but there are also CPUs which cost two fortunes.
A word of advice by the way - when you buy the processor, ask how noisy is the cooler of the CPU. Multi-core processors generate quite a heat and if the fan and/or the heatsink is too small, the vane will spin very quickly and generate hell of a noise - especially during the summer. I had to change the cooler of my CPU some time ago because even though the stock cooler did a decent job cooling the thing, when I started a game or generally some resource-eating process, I could hear it working one room away with a thick wall in between. The current cooler however has a heatsink which weights nearly 1 kg and a very silent fan and I can turn the PC on in the midst of the civilization again.
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Adrius
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posted July 11, 2011 09:40 PM |
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Oh yeah you're right, forgot about the processor.
Noise depends a lot on the case as well.. I mean if you got your hands on an Antec Sonata case you probably won't hear anything anyway 
My Three Hundred case is pretty open and the fan on my previous graphics card was loud as hell so that was pretty annoying... the fan on my new Xtreme card is quiet as **** though. I was afraid it wasn't even running when I plugged it in ^^
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posted July 11, 2011 11:40 PM |
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Azagal
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posted July 15, 2011 09:02 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 21:13, 15 Jul 2011.
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Well so I've been trying to look for some components but I have to say this is kinda too complicated for me. These things are so confusing to me with all the DDR3 **** and PCI and wtf ever.
I'm really tempted to just buy a finished product... I mean I do trust Joonas to put the thing together for me but I've been trying to find things that would fit the Motherboard.
So far:
Ram: Kingston HyperX Low-Voltage 4GB DDR3 Kit (100€)
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 4x 3.20 GHz
6 MB L3-Cache (~96€)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (4x 3.40 GHz
6 MB L3-Cache) (~115€)
Graphicscard: Sapphire Radeon HD5850 Xtreme (~110€)
DVD: 30 €
Case: Antec Three Hundred Midi Tower (~100€)
That's already around 400€ without the PSU, Harddrive and Keyboard (wanted a new monitor aswell if I had money left). The thing is I know what kind of sockets the Mainboard has but then for each type of socket there are a million different versions and I have no ****ing idea what is good and what isn't. Dunno maybe I'll just plan a pc with Joonas, Keksi and Dagoth and then buy the snow and have it assembled by a pro? No idea but before I buy parts that don't work well (or at all lol) together I'll probably just buy a new pc. Bummer really I wanted to save money but I just don't trust myself enough with stuff like this.
Any ideas how I can find out what is good and what isn't? For example the processor stuff I see the difference of 0.8 GHz but I have no ****ing idea whether that's significant).
Now I've talked to another friend of mine and he said I should check Ebay for "Mainboard Bundles" where I already get a lot of stuff that works together and then can build arround that (like this for example) but then I have the same problem again that I don't know whether the stuff is any good T_T.
From what I've gather from you've posted Adrius you were about as clueless as me then simply asked HC whether the parts worked together and voilá you creation came alive and you've had no regrets since. I don't feel that way T_T. Not because you guys give bad advice or anything I trust you but I have no ****ing clue how I should chose stuff apart from the fact that "oh it fits the socket".
So my question really is what can I do short of asking somebody I trust completely to give me a list of the things I need to buy? I doubt there is any fast way to learn this stuff lol.
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Adrius
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posted July 15, 2011 09:55 PM |
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What ya got there so far would be a more powerful version of my computer
What you've listed there will work. However I feel like you've maybe listened to me a bit too much ^^, I hope the computer will still feel personal to you once you've assembled it.
HC definitely didn't teach me everything, I was in doubts for months before I actually gathered the courage to order everything.
I read reviews of all the parts, read manuals on what to keep in mind when building a computer, googled the terms I didn't understand etc...
For something like the 955 processor vs the 965 one, I would simply google A vs B on the two subjects... someone will definitely have compared them.
Honestly, I learned quicker than I thought. It's not actually extremely hard, though there is a certain technological step you need to overcome I guess... like when learning language there are certain barriers you need to cross before it all becomes obvious...
I guess ya gotta ask yourself if ya wanna learn or just save money
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william
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posted July 15, 2011 09:59 PM |
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Building a computer is really easy, Azagal, so don't worry about it. And why would it matter if the computer feels personal to you or not? It's a computer. Who cares? lol?
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Adrius
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posted July 15, 2011 10:02 PM |
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Oh nothing... just a certain feeling I got when I had assembled everything and felt like... "this is mine, I chose the parts, I learned how to build it, it's mine MINE MINE"
Like you've created something ya know.
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william
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posted July 15, 2011 10:04 PM |
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Oh right. I can understand that. For somebody like Azagal though, I doubt he'd care.
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Azagal
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posted July 15, 2011 11:06 PM |
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Yeah I really don't give a **** lol I just want the damn thing to work and be good. Sure it's nice to have the "bwuahahah IT'S ALIVE" Frankenstein moment but honestly all I care about is having an powerful machine that works. That is all. Well I'm really tired today so I'll go to bed now and have a look at this again when I've got more time. Probably just a bit frustrated today.
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DagothGares
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posted January 06, 2012 11:10 AM |
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Don't really want to invest the time and money to build a pc from scratch. I know very little of pc's (lol at azagal for thinking I'd be tech-savvy in this thread).
Currently there's two rigs offered at an okay price (I think).
One is 700 euro and the other is 900.
The first has and AMD A8-3800 as a processor and the second one an intel core i7-2600 processor.
Both have AMD Radeon HD 6570 graphics card with 2gig video memory. Both have eight gig of RAM. The first has two TB and the second one. I don't do a lot of video editing or think that I will go over 500 gigabyte any time soon with my new pc, so I don't the hard drive is that important. The big difference are the processors. my question to HC is: is it worth the two hundred euro for the high end intel processor?
I would like my pc to last me a while and I want it to run Skyrim at a very high pace. So basically, my question is: Are the graphics and cpu on the first sufficient for that or is it better to take the high end processor of the second one?
Or are these rigs not suited for gaming and should I really (don't have a lot of time for that, though) just consult that site mvass linked and order parts separately?
EDIT: by the way, amd's logo is a lot cooler than intel's.
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Adrius
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posted January 06, 2012 11:13 AM |
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What resolution are you planning on gaming on?
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DagothGares
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posted January 06, 2012 11:23 AM |
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Like, for realsies, I haven't moved on from gaming since four years, so I don't even know what low and high resolutions are, Adrius. I feel like saying "the highest" would be retarded for some reason, so I'm not even gonna do that.
I come from an age where 1280*1024 is the highest resolution, adrius, I don't even know.
EDIT: Why else do you think I've bee playing warlord's battlecry for all this time? *cries*
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Adrius
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posted January 06, 2012 11:32 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 11:35, 06 Jan 2012.
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Well... you won't regret investing in an HD monitor. It's a very big leap in graphical quality... had a bigger impact than a new graphic card for me.
The difference between playing The Witcher 2 on my old 1280x1024 and my current 1920x1080 is immense.
It's definitely worth including into your budget if you have space.
Of course, playing at 1920x1080 is much more demanding than going lower, so this affects everything else too so... eh...
I'll get back to you on evaluating those computers, would you mind posting links to them? There are many other things that factor in, for example in Skyrim the speed of the harddrive matters for loading areas.
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As for "highest resolution" nowadays...
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