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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted February 14, 2012 08:25 PM |
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So... just gonna ask what time it took you to complete the map in your first play? Because it's month 5th now and I'm still running around the first town like an idiot without knowning what to do except waiting and gathering enough troops to fight that guy in Dungeon town (I have already defeated Damacon)....
Also I couldn't upgrade the creature special ability, have already opened the panel but just can't upgrade... Or am I required to do something to up it?!!!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 14, 2012 08:46 PM |
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Jaegar is very easy to defeat. Just attack will devils his shooters, let a few alive so he thinks he can shoot, and will not get out of town. Then attack dragons, manticores etc. Hypnotize the last stack and resurrect casualties. Of course, you should have already bought "attack and return" ability for your devils, it is a MUST for all battles.
Abilities: click on one, it gets highlighted. Then click on the "accept" button on ability right side to purchase it. Note that most abilities will be activated only if you are ACE level, so use "train" button in hero screen.
You probably have noticed that when you buy untrained troops and mix them with trained, the cost is much higher than if you upgrade only those troops. Use a secondary hero to purchase every week troops, train them first and only then mix them with main force. Maths...
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T2_2112
Supreme Hero
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posted February 15, 2012 03:38 AM |
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I HATE YOU SALAMANDER, You always make GREAT map so i take MUCH time spend for them, even 14-02, no GF just ur map. LOL. 5 RED STAR pls.
BTW, can you make some mods play on any maps and can choice lords like disciples (and this map) ? 
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted February 15, 2012 11:01 PM |
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Jaegar is very easy to defeat... Maths...
Just a little bit of question-I try the tactic you mention,but he gets aggressive even before the medusa queens gets out of ammo...
I suppose that has something to do with the fact I attack him with <130 Arch Devils and comparative number of efreet sultans,pit lords and horned demons...So my attacks have low effect and I should bring more troops!
Is that so?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 15, 2012 11:32 PM |
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I have much less troops with Jaegar.
AI is ...AI. Block the gate with some stack, and experiment different moves until you get what it makes him stand behind the walls like a dumb and never get out. It depends on your actions. Of course, Devils should have attack and return, or they will be annihilated fast.
Second round, I started decimating his evil eyes first but on next turn I let them alive, until dragons and mantis are dead. Their pitiful long ranged shots do not scratch me much:
He did not move, he thinks he is stronger and safe and will keep blinding the devils. Medusas have very low ammo, let them alive, this is important. You should also have ballistic skill. Easy with 16 skills possible, which you can delete at the market of time to learn new ones.
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted February 16, 2012 12:53 AM |
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Well, replay now with MoD faction so I could develop more easily and since I have known some clues about about what to do, I manage to get "Summon Clone" + "Return" when I fight Jeagar, and yes I rape him (with about 100 Baron). No other creatures needed, Baron alone can rape everything on the way, Soul Steal + Clone = OP!!! Manage to freeze the entire of his army and just focus on the Black Dragon.
Oh and nice troll from that chain lightning guy !!!
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 16, 2012 01:14 PM |
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:)
Thanks,Salamandre,for reminding me that good battle tactic leads humble numbers of troops to victory!
I see that you put sharpshooters in hex next to catapults.I will experience that in battles to know why.
And you in fact protect the ArchDevils!(That I didnt do in the first trys)
Will try today to slaughter his black dragons!
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 16, 2012 02:43 PM |
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Sorcery
alisapa,you abandoned the Master of sorcery specialty before beating Jaegar?Or after...
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Darko
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 16, 2012 05:19 PM |
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Wow, this is some crazy work. Just started playing, Congratulations for the enormous effort and enthusiasm you have put in this masterpiece! Wow.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 03:06 PM |
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Many people asked in mapsforheroes what is a good time for this or that.
Playing right now master of wealth, here is my progress, much faster than in testing phases.
Bonus earth date:
Bonus fire date:
And an example of why raw force is never overwhelming, AI is dumb: (attack and return enabled):
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I see that you put sharpshooters in hex next to catapults.I will experience that in battles to know why.
I did not have ballistic at that time, so when blacks will attack sharps, they will destroy the catapult as well, using good angle.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 17, 2012 03:33 PM |
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Is it a high level tactic to know how to attract Black Dragons to hit sharps or is it a simple trick?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 03:35 PM |
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AI is calculating his attacks regardless:
1) priority for shooters
2) retaliate damage
From all stacks he can reach, the sharps will die all from one attack, + catapult destroyed. Other stacks have low priority in his codes, because they can't move over walls. He will go for sharps 100%, specially when blacks have attack and return ability. At 200%, I can not guarantee what he will do at lower difficulties.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 17, 2012 04:39 PM |
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:)
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At 200%, I can not guarantee what he will do at lower difficulties.
I have no idea either what AI does at lower difficulty and dont care!
One question I would like to ask-am I able to see the mithril income in the kingdom overview?Really for now with only two mithril mines it doesnt matter and really the income is from creature banks,but I will have daily income when I choose the wealth faction...
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 05:54 PM |
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I did not add a script showing mithril income because this is easy to check. Right click on kingdom overview icon, it will show your available mithril. Next turn, right click again, you will see how much you gathered between...
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 17, 2012 06:08 PM |
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If
If I upload saved game,would you try it for a few minutes just to see if you able to atract dragons to sharps and say yes if you did?
I feel dragons just love to ignore my sharps
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 06:09 PM |
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted February 17, 2012 06:15 PM |
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Here
http://www.2shared.com/file/B_ZPdVHW/Commodusmonth5week1beforeJaega.html
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 06:37 PM |
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Actually they don't go for, it may have something with your abilities, interesting. Anyway, the fight is easy, hypnotized the harpies then resurrected everyone, battle cost me <400 mana in all.
Month 5 and Commodus is not expert in air? 
SAVE
Get ballistic
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
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posted February 17, 2012 06:58 PM |
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Thanks
Thank you for your time spent to try the battle!
I will use your save if I fail to win the battle after some more trys.
Commodus is not expert in air,because I didnt make him such.In the university air is one of the skills,that can be learned at any time.
Or maybe I underestimate it.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted February 17, 2012 08:38 PM |
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Resurrect phase possibilities.
Use of moat to lower HP of remaining creatures:
Example of effective use of curse/weakness (level 5 spells):
Aine slaughtered 35000 demons which I have to resurrect (500/turn). But her 3 supreme left are very annoying (she keeps casting frenzy), they kill 100 demons/turn. Cast curse/weakness, 10 rounds later they can scratch only 10 demons, thus my resurrect is almost clean.
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