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GMnemonic
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posted October 09, 2012 09:41 PM |
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I will not rest untill Academy and Sylvan are in aswell.
but honestly I am actully suprised we even got 1 faction seeing the history of this game I lost all hope. I do think only 1 faction is a dissapointment though. It kills my hope to have all three back.
I can live without the dwarves but they may come too.
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 09, 2012 09:55 PM |
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Academy is a must. And if they can't bring back Sylvan and Fortress, they should at least make elves and dwarves neutral units.
Speaking of Neutral Units, I hope to see the Wyvern/Paokai return as a Neutral Champion in the expansion
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 09, 2012 09:58 PM |
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Not gonna happen. Wyverns and Paokai(which are specific Wyverns native to the Pao Islands) are inconic allies of the Orcs now. They belong to the Stronghold, so it is highly unlikely to see them as neutrals. Perhaps in the future as alternative Stronghold units, supposed we get such a system.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 09, 2012 10:10 PM |
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Not logical. All future allies can be neutrals now.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 09, 2012 10:13 PM |
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According to the Compendium, the Wyverns are Iconic Allies, just like the Centaur and the Harpies. There is no future involved. Orc tribes have started "domesticating" Wyverns since they landed on the Pao Islands and the Ranaarian Steppes.
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 09, 2012 10:19 PM |
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Doesn't the Compendium also say Haven domesticates Dire Wolves? They're still neutrals. (I don't actually personally own the Compendium, so please correct me if I'm wrong)
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 09, 2012 10:28 PM |
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Quote: Doesn't the Compendium also say Haven domesticates Dire Wolves? They're still neutrals. (I don't actually personally own the Compendium, so please correct me if I'm wrong)
Yes and no. It is said that only members of the Wolf nobility domesticate Dire Wolves for hunting and war purposes and are notoriously unreliable. But most of them are simply animals of the wilds. Then again, it also says that Ranaarian Orcs ride them as mounts.
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted October 09, 2012 10:31 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 22:33, 09 Oct 2012.
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Quote: Orc tribes have started "domesticating" Wyverns since they landed on the Pao Islands and the Ranaarian Steppes.
Maybe in Heroes 6 timeline the process of taming them is still ongoing and they're not battle-ready yet?
The best thing would be to give us two factions per expansion, but that will surely not happen. I agree with War-Overlord that they will probably release the first one to see if it sales well. Hence the standalone form, possibly to attract more players who didn't buy the vanilla game (it's bad reputation as being bugged is a possible factor here). If they manage to release another expansion we will get Academy (because I believe it's code is quite advanced). I may be getting the wrong idea but Elvin was hinting something about Sylvan so it's still possible. I wouldn't mind to see the dwarf faction, but imo they should get a little redesign, because two many units were er... dwarfish, and thus the faction seemed a bit repetitive... but it's not easy to see more then two expansions for a strategy game.
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 09, 2012 10:36 PM |
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Quote: I wouldn't mind to see the dwarf faction, but imo they should get a little redesign, because two many units were er... dwarfish, and thus the faction seemed a bit repetitive... but it's not easy to see more then two expansions for a strategy game.
From what I've seen in the Compendium, the dwarves would have Fire Giants and Valkyries with them.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted October 09, 2012 10:39 PM |
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Quote: I may be getting the wrong idea but Elvin was hinting something about Sylvan so it's still possible. I wouldn't mind to see the dwarf faction, but imo they should get a little redesign, because two many units were er... dwarfish, and thus the faction seemed a bit repetitive... but it's not easy to see more then two expansions for a strategy game.
What Elvin was hinting at, I believe, is that the Elves had a redesign in the lore. Just as the Dark Elves and the Dwarves have gotten.
Quote: From what I've seen in the Compendium, the dwarves would have Fire Giants and Valkyries with them.
And bears. But it's not clear if they are used as mounts or not. Possibly both.
As for more than 2 expansions, the original Dawn of War had 3. Civilisation 4 had 4 expansion packs I believe. And if you look for it, I'm certain you can find a whole range of titles which have.
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 09, 2012 10:43 PM |
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Quote:
Maybe in Heroes 6 timeline the process of taming them is still ongoing and they're not battle-ready yet?
Duel of Champions story takes place only aprox. a year after H6 vanila but the Wyvern riders are present there, But on the other hand, so are neutral wyverns.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted October 09, 2012 10:53 PM |
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5 years. Both DLCs take place 1 year after HVI, not DoC.
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 09, 2012 10:57 PM |
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Does DoC even have a story? I thought it was just a card game.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 09, 2012 10:58 PM |
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Sure it does though most of the campaign is unavailable until the release.
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samir
Hired Hero
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posted October 10, 2012 12:01 AM |
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I love like to see a Dwarf town! But not with so much dwarven units, with valkyries, with magma dragons and with frost giants!
I don't really liked the old dwarven town
I also want to see rampart and academy, and some dark forest town!
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Endbringer
Adventuring Hero
Devil's Bane
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posted October 10, 2012 12:39 AM |
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Quote: I also want to see rampart and academy, and some dark forest town!
I don't know what you mean by "dark forest town", but I can guarantee that they will not be inventing any completely new factions.
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Miru
Supreme Hero
A leaf in the river of time
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posted October 10, 2012 02:30 AM |
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Quote: Not gonna happen. Wyverns and Paokai(which are specific Wyverns native to the Pao Islands) are inconic allies of the Orcs now. They belong to the Stronghold, so it is highly unlikely to see them as neutrals. Perhaps in the future as alternative Stronghold units, supposed we get such a system.
Who cares? Remember H4?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 10, 2012 08:38 AM |
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What exactly are valkyries in Ashan?
Renegade seraphs with harpy wings? On fire?
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 10, 2012 08:46 AM |
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Quote: 5 years. Both DLCs take place 1 year after HVI, not DoC.
That is why the Aprox. was there. I do no recall seeing any dates in the story. And Still miss the feature to replay the story in that game.
But hope the Officila releas will bring this
Quote: What exactly are valkyries in Ashan?
Renegade seraphs with harpy wings? On fire?
If we take the basic creature categories of Ashan I would bet on "A spirit" due to the beeing connected to Arketh "of fire" having some king od deeper meaning like "that motivate his fallowers on battle fieled"
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted October 10, 2012 09:01 AM |
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taking a guess here, but i think the dungeon's racial ability will have to do with transparency judging from their dynasty weapon "assassin's blade" any other ideas?
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