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DoubleDeck
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posted October 23, 2013 07:56 AM

Nope.

Okay, turning to Haven now...

I am in two minds whether to go with Sandal or Cass....hmmm, which one is more reliable?

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NamelessOrder
NamelessOrder


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posted October 23, 2013 08:55 AM

DoubleDeck said:

I am in two minds whether to go with Sandal or Cass....hmmm, which one is more reliable?

Sandal is more consistent is a way that his poor matchups (Dhamiria) aren't as poor as Cassa'a. Cassa is better vs Ammar but Ammars aren't as popular as they used to be.
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RMZ1989
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posted October 23, 2013 09:29 AM

234 TELO on a Jackpot with Crag Hack(Was 3rd at one point. ).
I guess it is Tier 2. Had quite a lucky hands in few games, and well, quite a bad in few that I lost. Would probably played more, but it was sleeping time.

Dhamiria with solid hand poops all over the Crag Hack, typical, as she does against every other hero...
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DoubleDeck
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posted October 23, 2013 10:46 AM

NamelessOrder said:
Sandal is more consistent is a way that his poor matchups (Dhamiria) aren't as poor as Cassa'a. Cassa is better vs Ammar but Ammars aren't as popular as they used to be.

Yeah, also Sandal has the ability to rush up nicely with his special (say turn 2 with a wolf captain and another 2 drop)...and I am more inclined to rush decks!

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NamelessOrder
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posted October 23, 2013 11:28 AM

DoubleDeck said:
NamelessOrder said:
Sandal is more consistent is a way that his poor matchups (Dhamiria) aren't as poor as Cassa'a. Cassa is better vs Ammar but Ammars aren't as popular as they used to be.

Yeah, also Sandal has the ability to rush up nicely with his special (say turn 2 with a wolf captain and another 2 drop)...and I am more inclined to rush decks!

....

On turn 2 you need to up your might to 3, only then you can think about using hero's ability. Cassa is quicker if this is what you're looking for.

Anyway check this out if you're interested in Cassa:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/802049-Fortune-Cassandra-Rush-(T1)-Overview

there are 3 main versions of Cassa so maybe you'll like one.
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DoubleDeck
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posted October 23, 2013 12:41 PM

Don't wanna go too heavily in fortunes...

But what I meant was, Sandal on turn 2 can put a griffin/praetorian/tithe and then a wolf captain down (both 2 might cost)....so don't need might 3 yet...

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Dave_Jame
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posted October 23, 2013 12:43 PM

What is the fastest game possible.. A shrot article by Dave Jame

As many players in the game, my personal record for the fastest game is a round 3. I managed to do this more then half a year back but you can still achieve this, and you can do it for almost every faction.

But the question is, Can we get any faster? Is there a way to win in your round 2?

Actually there is. It requires more then a tone of Irish luck, but it is possible.

The hero who can accomplish this is no other then Crag Hack, one of the most popular rush heroes, and IMHO the most played stronghold hero at this time.

There are even two ways how he can bring his opponent down in such a short time. The "easier" one works only on 18 HP heroes, whyle the "harder" one can defeat any hero currently in the game. Hard and Easy are relative term since both of them have the same basis and both are not likely to happen, but theoreticaly they can.

In both of these cases the following conditions must be met.
1: Crag must be the 2nd hero. (Starting with 2 resources)
2: The oponent must not block, destroy or prevent the attack of any of our creatures.
3: Crag's starting hand must be "4x Serpent Fly, 2x Dark Assasin"

Crag's first turn is easy. He uses his abilitie and reduces the cost of all neutral creatures. Places 2 DAs, each for 1 point, and 4 flies for 0 points. This gives him the basic potential damage of 12.

If the oponent really does not block, kill or disable any of his creatures, Crag has an open way to anihilate him in his next turn, if all goes well. This is the point where the HP of the enemy starts to play the role

18 HP:
The easier variant has the advantage of only two more variables. To really anihilate his oponent in this turn, Crag only needs the Week of Mercinaries event, and he needs it to work in his favore. The advantage of this way is, that we could influence if the top card is a creature, simply by not adding any fortunes and spells into our deck.
In the end we would have a total power of 8 (for DAs) + 4 (for flies) + 6 (for the event) = 18

20 HP:
The harder variant depends on even more unrealistic situations. First of all Crag would had to draw one specific card form his entire deck, a Gold pile. Why? Well we would need a total boost of 8 to win, and to do this we would need as much gold as possible. But this is not the only thing we would need, we would need an event card to come, or better to say two copies fo the same event card, Week of Training. Yes it would be this little common card that would help us win. It's abilitie to give +1 attack to all creatures with the basic attack of 1 or less would work great on our Serpent flies, but the cost is 2 resources, and thats why we would have to get the Gold pile card. Crag would then increase his fortune by one, play the gold pile to increase his resources from 3 to 4, and activating both of the events.
The result would be increasing all flies attack to 3 (total of 12) which with the DAs 8 gives the needed 20.

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posted October 23, 2013 01:04 PM

That said you have zero incentive to use week of recruitment with Crag. Unless you wanna include pao hunters too
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NamelessOrder
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posted October 23, 2013 01:18 PM

DoubleDeck said:
Don't wanna go too heavily in fortunes...

But what I meant was, Sandal on turn 2 can put a griffin/praetorian/tithe and then a wolf captain down (both 2 might cost)....so don't need might 3 yet...

wolf captains require 3 might
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posted October 23, 2013 01:27 PM

Oops, did this change with FW? (haven't really played Haven as you can see!)

@Dave_jame: the fastest game possible is if opponent quits on first turn Lol....cool article thou!

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RedEmperor30
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posted October 23, 2013 03:08 PM

Well done to nameless on his achievement Legend!!

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NamelessOrder
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posted October 24, 2013 06:55 PM

DoubleDeck said:
Oops, did this change with FW? (haven't really played Haven as you can see!)


No, i don't know when it was nerfed but pre-FW.
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RedEmperor30 said:
Well done to nameless on his achievement


thx, i actually wanted to achieve that to give some legitimacy to my overview
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Interesting deals in the shop:

1. Hakeem Deck for 499990 gold, not worth it

2. 1 pack from every set for 395 seals. Decent deal, but good players are better off spending seals on swisses tickets FW pack is worth -140 seals, Herald and Void Rising - 120 each, 140+120+120 = 380. 15 seals for basic reinforcement.

3. A box of Void Rising and Herald of the Void for 1690 seals. Good deal So one pack costs 1690/20=84,5.
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RedEmperor30
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posted October 24, 2013 08:06 PM

NamelessOrder said:
DoubleDeck said:
Oops, did this change with FW? (haven't really played Haven as you can see!)


No, i don't know when it was nerfed but pre-FW.
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RedEmperor30 said:
Well done to nameless on his achievement


thx, i actually wanted to achieve that to give some legitimacy to my overview
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Interesting deals in the shop:

1. Hakeem Deck for 499990 gold, not worth it

2. 1 pack from every set for 395 seals. Decent deal, but good players are better off spending seals on swisses tickets FW pack is worth -140 seals, Herald and Void Rising - 120 each, 140+120+120 = 380. 15 seals for basic reinforcement.

3. A box of Void Rising and Herald of the Void for 1690 seals. Good deal So one pack costs 1690/20=84,5.


great synopsis nameless - it must be mentioned to all that you need to learn the play style of this deck, as with every deck, for it to work - as per nameless 1st place in jp, it clearly does

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DoubleDeck
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posted October 25, 2013 08:11 AM

Sorry if you mentioned this in previous posts, but what deck did you do this with Nameless? Cassa?

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NamelessOrder
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posted October 25, 2013 09:31 AM

DoubleDeck said:
Sorry if you mentioned this in previous posts, but what deck did you do this with Nameless? Cassa?

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Dave_Jame
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posted October 25, 2013 10:11 AM

There are new Featured deals in the game shop. I actually think of using some of them. Especally the Academy starter, I still lack Hakeem

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posted October 25, 2013 10:36 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 10:37, 25 Oct 2013.

I have every single card except Ammar, which I plan to get when winning Swiss with Academy (my last win swiss with every faction).

Thinking of going with Myranda with creatures level 4 and spells level 6, great creature removal deck (with blind arbiters and week taxes as events).

I must say with owning every card (and then some), seals & packs do seem irrelevant now...pity.

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RMZ1989
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posted October 25, 2013 12:30 PM
Edited by RMZ1989 at 12:30, 25 Oct 2013.

DoubleDeck said:
I have every single card except Ammar, which I plan to get when winning Swiss with Academy (my last win swiss with every faction).

Thinking of going with Myranda with creatures level 4 and spells level 6, great creature removal deck (with blind arbiters and week taxes as events).

I must say with owning every card (and then some), seals & packs do seem irrelevant for now...pity.

FTFY.
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posted October 25, 2013 01:42 PM

Until the next expansion of course!

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RedEmperor30
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posted October 25, 2013 02:07 PM

the real question is do you own 4 of each card except uniques and heros

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