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Salamandre
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posted June 30, 2016 01:00 PM |
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Ebonheart
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posted June 30, 2016 01:05 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Time for that Einstein quote again.
Well he does have many points about the media.
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posted June 30, 2016 01:21 PM |
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Look, guys, sometimes a post, while standing under another isn't in answer to that one, because that one wasn't there when you started to write your post.
But be that as it may, being called blind by a racist, chauvinist, elitist bigot is a compliment in my book, so thanks anyway for your opinion.
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posted June 30, 2016 01:24 PM |
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Ebonheart said:
JollyJoker said:
Time for that Einstein quote again.
Well he does have many points about the media.
The media are one reason why the referendum democracy is a problem, because there would be a power shift giving, let's say populist media like The Sun or German Bild even more power than they already have.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 30, 2016 01:31 PM |
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Mate, referendums are the last thing to seperate us from a dictatorship, are you with pure heart saying you think they are problematic?
Or did I misinterpret you?
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Salamandre
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posted June 30, 2016 01:32 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
But be that as it may, being called blind by a racist, chauvinist, elitist bigot is a compliment in my book, so thanks anyway for your opinion.
I think I prefer that to being a coward.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 30, 2016 01:42 PM |
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Am I racist?
This is my view on how I want to live:
I want to live in a pretty much white homogeneous neighbourhood.
I want everyone to be of a similar religion (Christianity, atheist).
I don't want anyone from below/slightly above the equator (Australia is allowed).
I don't want any multiculture.
I want everyone in said neighbourhood to only speak Swedish/English primarily.
I don't want any changes like a rollercoaster in a theme park.
I don't want to feel responsible for everything in the world.
So please, share your thoughts. With these things in mind, am I a racist or not?
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Salamandre
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posted June 30, 2016 01:59 PM |
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Does it matter so much what others think? Fight for what you believe its good for you and your future.
The opposite side will use anyway intimidation, calling words, censoring, condescendence and fallacious comparisons. They need to be given a good lesson, because you know what, polls everywhere tell they are in the very minority. This is why referendums scare them so much, is going back to reality.
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Ebonheart
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posted June 30, 2016 02:03 PM |
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I do not have any fear at all Sal. But I want to see how they reason and perhaps try to get new angles on the problem.
I believe that the current project of immigration is the greatest multiculture killer of all time.
It's like mixing too many berries. Alone they are sweet in their own way just like every country, mix a few berries close together and it might be worse or better - but mix them all and it tastes disgusting.
It's our differences that creates multiculture, not a big mess where we all try to merge it into one.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:08 PM |
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Ebonheart said:
I don't want to feel responsible for everything in the world.
Sounds like a racist liberal!
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JollyJoker
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posted June 30, 2016 02:10 PM |
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Ebonheart said:
Mate, referendums are the last thing to seperate us from a dictatorship, are you with pure heart saying you think they are problematic?
Or did I misinterpret you?
With pure heart? No. But with a bleeding heart. Now, that we actually have the means for it with the internet, do you really think, direct democracy is a good idea in the age of the sh!tstorm, the misinformation and the 5-second attention span? Before we knew it, we'd end up with a monkey for president because it's touted as cool or fun or a nice joke, and we would eternally end up with the "Bregret" following each referendum like the hangover on a bender.
You can neither expect or force people to have a founded or well-reasoned opinion to everything - so why ask them or give them a chance to vote on something they don't understand, just because they CAN? That makes absolutely no sense. we are a society of labor division, and making a well-informed decision on important things is part of that.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:15 PM |
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Ebonheart said:
Am I racist?
This is my view on how I want to live:
I want to live in a pretty much white homogeneous neighbourhood.
I want everyone to be of a similar religion (Christianity, atheist).
I don't want anyone from below/slightly above the equator (Australia is allowed).
I don't want any multiculture.
I want everyone in said neighbourhood to only speak Swedish/English primarily.
I don't want any changes like a rollercoaster in a theme park.
I don't want to feel responsible for everything in the world.
So please, share your thoughts. With these things in mind, am I a racist or not?
Yes, quite so.
1- Why? Stereotyping...
2- What's wrong with Buddhists?  (Btw, calling Christianity and Atheism "similar religions" is beyond absurd.)
3- That's again hardcore stereotyping.
4- Depends on what you mean by multi-culture, laws should be universal, egalitarian and support individual liberties. No cultural value should be above that. But many folkloric traditions can co-exist next to one another and that's not a new thing at all, pretty much any classical (not colonial) empire was built that way.
5- Why is that even your business?
6- Not wanting too much to change all of a sudden at once, is understandable. Nobody likes that.
7- That's not why people are crossing borders, not because some countries (in your case, Sweden) feel like doing charity for the rest of the world with purely noble intentions. You should really get rid of that notion. It's so arrogant to need labor force and pretend like it's charity.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:17 PM |
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Kayna said:
Ebonheart said:
I don't want to feel responsible for everything in the world.
Sounds like a racist liberal!
Then please enlighten me why I shall feel connected to everything that happens in the world? Why shall I give up on my life to worry for someone else?
As for you Jolly, this is what I believe about democracy:
It is a common argument that people who vote are influenced by media, that the question is too complex for them, that they undermine the authority of the ones in power elected by the people.
I accept that, but my belief circulates around this:
It's the people that is to live in a country and by the political decisions decided - NOT the politicians alone. Despite being elected by the people it is impossible to not stay egiostic, or with one's own agenda or goals once elected - I see referendums as a way to prevent too much megalomania and clearly show what people despite their intelligence level want.
Because if you are to take responsillity for them because you think you have a better grip on the situation (and you may very well have) then you are sadly no different than a dictator.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:24 PM |
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artu said:
5- Why is that even your business?
6- Not wanting too much to change all of a sudden at once, is understandable. Nobody likes that.
7- That's not why people are crossing borders, not because some countries (in your case, Sweden) feel like doing charity for the rest of the world with purely noble intentions. You should really get rid of that notion. It's so arrogant to need labor force and pretend like it's charity.
Then I am in your eyes a racist, and yet this is the same view that most of those I love and care for share and have done so for a long, long time.
1. Stereotyping, I am sorry, but this is how I see it.
2. It is absurd to you, but here in Sweden is it pretty much Atheism or Christianity that dominates, a choice between those, is what I mean.
3. And that is the way I see it. Sorry if it does not fit your views.
4. Everyone obeys the same law, same norms, rules etc etc.
5. Because I want homogenity, not multiculture, end of story.
6. Thank you, glad we can agree there.
7. I do not want to feel a need to worry about what happens in countries which supports stone-age-bloodshed-massacres. I do support the cause to send help to those in need, but not take them over to my home. I also assure you, Sweden does not need labour force, it's just a hoax made by the politicians to justify their actions for the public - but it has been proved wrong so many times that I have lost count.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:30 PM |
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So, not only all their motivation is charity and responsibility for the world, they are so noble, they also pull a hoax to hide that intention and pretend they need labor force to prevent the compliments. Those politicians must be angels of some sort.
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Then I am in your eyes a racist, and yet this is the same view that most of those I love and care for share and have done so for a long, long time.
Dude, there is no "in my eyes." You directly say you want a white neighborhood and then you put all of the southern hemisphere in your blacklist. (Pun intended.)
If that is not racism, I don't know what is! Are you under the impression that you should be attending lynch mobs to be called one? What exactly did you think racism was?
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posted June 30, 2016 02:40 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 14:41, 30 Jun 2016.
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Ebon you are racist, obviously. A person of color wouldn't be allowed in your neighnourhood had you the power. Duh. In addition you are religiously AND culturally intolerant. Good job buddy. 
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posted June 30, 2016 02:45 PM |
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Was just joking, mate. Yes, technically, it is racist, but only because the word has a very broad meaning. My feelings are similar to yours, I'm just tired of needless problems and arguments. I'd rather joke around or say stupid things than argue stupid subjects or subjects we've already talked over and over for decades.
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posted June 30, 2016 02:46 PM |
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artu said:
So, not only all their motivation is charity and responsibility for the world, they are so noble, they also pull a hoax to hide that intention and pretend they need labor force to prevent the compliments. Those politicians must be angels of some sort.
The truth is that the labour is not needed, what is needed is more jobs and the government hates small business and entrepreneurs.
This whole "be a big bro of the world" started with Olof Palme and has gone to extreme lengths. Media brands anyone disliking it a racist and so people fear telling the truth (sounds like Sovjet I know).
The swedish private debts are high and the youth unemployment is high and the overall reports are very misleading, because if you are working 1h/week you are counted as "having a job - working).
Last but not least, the immigrants who come here end up in three ways:
1. Leeching contributions and can't be integrated so they form their own areas.
2. Dive into criminal activities. Kids aren't used top the school system and so create chaos.
3. Those with hopes and dreams end up in refugee houses with people from places they may very well have been at war with (you can imagine the hate). They see that they have no future or that it was not what they expected.
And because of all this, normal swedes are set aside. A few examples can be: Immigrants getting first in line for new rent apartments, insanely high contributions (eg, retroactive parent money, monthly contributions etc), free transport cards, dentalcare for 95% less compared to a Swede, special food made based on their home country for more than 725 kronor per person a day while a normal swedish child in school gets food for about 10 kr.
This list can be made much longer.
At the same time, the entire country is in decline.
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posted June 30, 2016 03:01 PM |
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Well, I don't know about all the details when it comes to Sweden as one can expect but we have other Swedish members here with political views opposite to yours and when they engage in arguments about these issues, they say most immigrants integrate well and mind their own business. So, I'm guessing the reality is somewhere in between.
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posted June 30, 2016 03:02 PM |
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For those saying Trump can't win:
Trump 43% Hillary 39%
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
The election is still an eternity away. Clinton continually has more scandals/crimes come to light. Islamic supremacists are stepping up their terrorist activity. Trump has started giving prepared speeches and is getting pretty good at doing so.
Trump is battling the combined forces of the democrats, the current administration, the media, GOP globalist elites, and the GOP "you are not conservative enough" crowd. Yet he is hanging in there.
The main stream media will continue to write him off and campaign for Hillary but I think the elites are going to lose this time.
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