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Steyn
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posted August 18, 2015 09:44 PM |
bonus applied by alcibiades on 19 Aug 2015. |
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I don't see what praising H3 or 5 has got to do with the ludicrous building design of Ashan's dungeon faction. Dies-Irae just went along in the helicopter hydra's joke by showing that H5's hydra's also had to helicopter. That you don't like him because he likes the newer games and has the guts to stand up for them does not mean you have to be a hindquarters Stevie.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted August 18, 2015 10:29 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Dies_Irae said:
Like in H5:
Didn't make sense back then, it doesn't now either xD
At least it looked good. 
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 18, 2015 10:35 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
At least it looked good.
emphasis on "looked" 
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 18, 2015 10:37 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
At least it looked good.
It did?
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted August 18, 2015 10:46 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 22:47, 18 Aug 2015.
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Gryphs said:
Pawek_13 said:
At least it looked good.
It did?
Yep
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 18, 2015 10:49 PM |
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Well, Haven, Academy and Faketress still do. The rest (excepting Sylvan) never did if you ask me
because snowty "central pillar" structure for all of them which made sure none of them was any unique.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted August 18, 2015 10:51 PM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 22:51, 18 Aug 2015.
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Wellplay said:
Yep
Opinion thing really I guess as I have always thought Dungeon looked terrible in H5.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted August 18, 2015 11:07 PM |
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For me, Dungeon never looked good. Like ... ever? In Heroes 2, the dragon tower was odd in front of the swamp, aside the minotaur's maize, well, Warlock town was odd compared to the others. In H3, I felt it had some ok-ish look, but still, never felt like a town, maybe because of the claustrophobic feel about it. H4, military outpost, just like all other towns, even having adapted design for different terrains. H5 and beyond: never liked any of them.
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Storm-Giant
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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 18, 2015 11:34 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
because snowty "central pillar" structure for all of them which made sure none of them was any unique.
Too true.
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Hotarubi
Known Hero
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posted August 19, 2015 04:12 AM |
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PandaTar said:
For me, Dungeon never looked good. Like ... ever? In Heroes 2, the dragon tower was odd in front of the swamp, aside the minotaur's maize, well, Warlock town was odd compared to the others. In H3, I felt it had some ok-ish look, but still, never felt like a town, maybe because of the claustrophobic feel about it. H4, military outpost, just like all other towns, even having adapted design for different terrains. H5 and beyond: never liked any of them.
I'll have to agree with most of this. Ironically, I only liked the Dungeon (and consequently, started playing them a bit more) during V. For once, it felt like the town had a cohesive identity.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 19, 2015 08:29 AM |
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Hotarubi said:
I'll have to agree with most of this. Ironically, I only liked the Dungeon (and consequently, started playing them a bit more) during V. For once, it felt like the town had a cohesive identity.
Not trying to start anything but what about it was remotely town-like?
I can get behind cohesive because everything looked the same.
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted August 19, 2015 08:55 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Dies_Irae said:
Like in H5:
Didn't make sense back then, it doesn't now either xD
Glad I never said that it makes sense to me  , because it really is a bit weird to have a Hydra dwelling stuck to the roof. Considering that H5's Hydra has legs makes it all the more strange. The H7 Hydra can at least slither and slide down or something...
Also, the dwelling is now called Hissing/Rattling Temple. Why a Temple? I don't think Hydras are really dwelling there, it's more like an altar to...kind of summon them to your cause, after which they emerge from proper caves and crevices all over Ygg-Chall. Or there are some huge tunnel systems which we can't see in the TS.
You can always find an explanation ....maybe not a plausible one, but even so.
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mike80d
Famous Hero
Map Maker
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posted August 19, 2015 01:33 PM |
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Uggh, more and more do I wish I could design my own Heroes game. Count me as someone who is incredibly underwhelmed by these town screens.
With regards to Dungeon cohesiveness, I'd agree that the homm5 lineup made the most sense. But it was also my least favorite of the townscreens. Homm3's Dungeon Townscreen was pretty decent..
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 19, 2015 02:27 PM |
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Dies_Irae said:
Storm-Giant said:
Dies_Irae said:
Like in H5:
Didn't make sense back then, it doesn't now either xD
Glad I never said that it makes sense to me
I know, I just merely stated a fact.
It's yet another Ashan silliness, don't search for a reasoning coz there is none lol
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 19, 2015 04:51 PM |
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mike80d said:
Uggh, more and more do I wish I could design my own Heroes game. Count me as someone who is incredibly underwhelmed by these town screens.
With regards to Dungeon cohesiveness, I'd agree that the homm5 lineup made the most sense. But it was also my least favorite of the townscreens. Homm3's Dungeon Townscreen was pretty decent..
Wait... I just remember that Ubi-Nox (or Marzhin) did put in the Tower townscreen from H3 (HD style) as part of modding. But here's the question, won't that mess up, like, everything? I mean you have that build menu and buildings won't look the same. Plus, the original H7 townscreen does not position the same buildings and can make clicking them quite troublesome. In all, you'd have to carve out building lines to enable to interact with them.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 19, 2015 05:11 PM |
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You can always use UI and press buttons instead of click on town screen itself.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted August 19, 2015 05:35 PM |
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Jorgen
So currently the Soulscar clan is ruling the dungeon faction. However the line-up is pre-soulscar. I guess this means we'll not see dungeon in the final campaign. Maybe the dungeon campaign will tell the rise of the soulscar clan and how they became demon worshippers?
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted August 19, 2015 06:03 PM |
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Steyn said:
So currently the Soulscar clan is ruling the dungeon faction.
Discover Dungeon
Quote:
What I do know is that Menan of the Nightshards has been Lord of the Clans since the end of the War under the Mountain. I can’t quite remember who was ruling back in 660.
As you can see "The Faceless know no truth". 
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kiryu133
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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 19, 2015 06:14 PM |
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Avonu said:
Discover Dungeon
Dark elves - 28 times
Dungeon - 1 (the title so really 0)
Dark - 40
snowING SERIOUSLY!?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 19, 2015 06:26 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:27, 19 Aug 2015.
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Steyn said:
Jorgen
So currently the Soulscar clan is ruling the dungeon faction. However the line-up is pre-soulscar. I guess this means we'll not see dungeon in the final campaign. Maybe the dungeon campaign will tell the rise of the soulscar clan and how they became demon worshippers?
It's as if someone's been saying it ever since 500 pages ago. Also, do you think the Inferno vs Dungeon vote was by chance? No, it was because the lore was already set in stone and they could've swung either way with Raelag / Agrael's story irrespective of which faction got chosen.
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The Young Traveler
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