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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted October 18, 2015 12:12 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 01:02, 18 Oct 2015.
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H4 was bad because the company was dying, crummy spin-offs(plus their own awful games), 3DO's garbage console, and other bad decisions led to there bankruptcy not H4. The heroes chronicles are not to blame either as I see it were just symptoms of the greater problem.
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"Don't resist the force. Redirect it. Water over rock."-blizzardboy
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted October 18, 2015 12:18 AM |
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3lion said:
I thought MM9 and Legends of MM killed 3DO
And yes. Before that HoMM4 stabbed them and left bleeding. And before that Heroes Chronicles smacked them three (or four?) times... A story of murdering.
Heroes 4 was a strong commercial hit and did well enough to have a sequel greenlit, it had absolutely nothing to do with bankruptcy of 3DO lol
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vitirr
Known Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 12:19 AM |
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Edited by vitirr at 00:23, 18 Oct 2015.
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M&M franchise had nothing to do with the dead of 3DO. In fact it could very well be one of the most profitable franchises at the time for 3DO. And it was actually the bad economical state of 3DO that forced rushed M&M products in the end.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted October 18, 2015 12:20 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
Those campaigns are from Heroes 4, not Heroes 6.
Shots fired 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 12:24 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
So Marzhin is being disrespectful by DARING to make two unreleased campaigns from the older while using the newer game. The only disrespectful thing here could be that he picked stories from the franchise killer, bankrupt causing game lol.
Not the first nor the last time you'll ever be completely and utterly wrong, sadly. Might wanna revise your policy of spreading out your poorly deduced assumptions like they're actually true.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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3lion
Known Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 01:02 AM |
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vitirr said:
M&M franchise had nothing to do with the dead of 3DO. In fact it could very well be one of the most profitable franchises at the time for 3DO. And it was actually the bad economical state of 3DO that forced rushed M&M products in the end.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? 
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 01:06 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
GenyaArikado said:
So Marzhin is being disrespectful by DARING to make two unreleased campaigns from the older while using the newer game. The only disrespectful thing here could be that he picked stories from the franchise killer, bankrupt causing game lol.
Those campaigns are from Heroes 4, not Heroes 6.
Oh yeah, that's why i can play H7 while you watch pictures of elven werewolves lol in the "unreleased" section of acidcave lol
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted October 18, 2015 01:12 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
Oh yeah, that's why i can play H7 while you watch pictures of elven werewolves lol in the "unreleased" section of acidcave lol
No, my dear. You play Heroes 7 because assets of Heroes 6 were compatible with Unreal Engine.
Also, let us remember Black Hole Entertainment. 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 01:17 AM |
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted October 18, 2015 01:37 AM |
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The_Green_drag said:
Map 4 of elf campaign seems to be all about chasing heroes in a big circle. my hero is maxed out in logistics with the rough terrain perk and still hardly moving anywhere. This isn't fun at all right now. Honestly most of the campaign maps are boring.
I found no problems actually to complete this map around week 6-7. The movement reduction only occurs in the inner portion of the map, near the Elemental Forge of Summer, since the Wizard there makes it rain really hard. On the fringes, I didn't notice this quite as bad. At least the enemy suffered the same movement restrictions as I did.
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vitirr
Known Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 02:18 AM |
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3lion said:
vitirr said:
M&M franchise had nothing to do with the dead of 3DO. In fact it could very well be one of the most profitable franchises at the time for 3DO. And it was actually the bad economical state of 3DO that forced rushed M&M products in the end.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Well in this case it was quite clear. NWC games kept being quite profitable and 3DO wasn't sustained only by M&M games at all. There were the other franchises, (and clearly poor management), that led 3DO to bankrupcy not M&M failure.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 02:21 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 02:22, 18 Oct 2015.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 02:32 AM |
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frostymuaddib said:
GenyaArikado said:
Oh yeah, that's why i can play H7 while you watch pictures of elven werewolves lol in the "unreleased" section of acidcave lol
No, my dear. You play Heroes 7 because assets of Heroes 6 were compatible with Unreal
Engine.
Also, let us remember Black Hole Entertainment.
And you just arent playing 3DO or NWC games lol. Meanwhile Ubisoft seems pretty intact.
Why so mad at the truth? Just be happy that you are being thrown a bone in the form of those campaigns lol.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted October 18, 2015 02:53 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
And you just arent playing 3DO or NWC games lol. Meanwhile Ubisoft seems pretty intact.
Why so mad at the truth? Just be happy that you are being thrown a bone in the form of those campaigns lol.
it's bemusing to me how you often tend to just abandon whatever you're currently saying and run off behind a completely different, exponentially more would-be-outrageous statement every time your previous one gets refuted or outright "ooh, burned" lol
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted October 18, 2015 02:53 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
And you just arent playing 3DO or NWC games lol.
Says who? (Here is a small part of my desktop )
GenyaArikado said:
Meanwhile Ubisoft seems pretty intact.
Unfortunately. But that can't be said for M&M franchise
GenyaArikado said:
Why so mad at the truth? Just be happy that you are being thrown a bone in the form of those campaigns lol.
I'm not mad, darling. Why should I be? The thing that you see as truth is actually far from it. First, read a little about downfall of 3DO (or ask someone who knows to explain it to you), you may find some things that you don't know. Secondly, it was H6 that brought down it's developers (check the wiki link I posted) along with the franchinse of M&M (let us all face it: M&M hit the rock bottom with H6, and Ubi is draging it's corpse on that very bottom). If you cannot see that, here are few clues: H6 that is full of bugs even after so many patches, and recent flawless and bugless release of H6 expansion H7.
Oh, and I'm perfectly happy, thank you And Heroes 7 has nothing to do with that
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 05:51 AM |
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verriker said:
GenyaArikado said:
And you just arent playing 3DO or NWC games lol. Meanwhile Ubisoft seems pretty intact.
Why so mad at the truth? Just be happy that you are being thrown a bone in the form of those campaigns lol.
it's bemusing to me how you often tend to just abandon whatever you're currently saying and run off behind a completely different, exponentially more would-be-outrageous statement every time your previous one gets refuted or outright "ooh, burned" lol
becuase I dont wanna make a coherent argument, i just want to get you riled up :3 Besides in the end 3DO is bankrupt, GBK isnt coming back and I'm getting games i enjoy while you spend your days buying something you hate and talking about how snowty it is lol.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 08:26 AM |
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Well said, well said indeed.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted October 18, 2015 08:43 AM |
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GenyaArikado said:
becuase I dont wanna make a coherent argument, i just want to get you riled up :3 Besides in the end 3DO is bankrupt, GBK isnt coming back and I'm getting games i enjoy while you spend your days buying something you hate and talking about how snowty it is lol.
And that's a sad thing in itself, given that you are content with something that broken and have fun with it. Lucky one, aren't you? Luckily for us, other companies are not yet so crappy as to set up their customers in that level of low quality to release all their games in such chaotic level, fully disrespecting them while they lick their shoes for no apparent reason, given they are not bankrupting or anything to explain such rush-rush of production. Guess people get what they deserve.
I'll play something else, whole and fun.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted October 18, 2015 08:59 AM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 09:00, 18 Oct 2015.
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PandaTar said:
I'll play something else, whole and fun.
That begs the question,that doesn't go personally to you: Then what are you doing here??????????
It's way sadder being discontent with what you (again not you personally) have and go on hating it,abandoning all hope, than actually making your own happiness and finding the positive stuff,enjoying yourself, wanting to share that, and being optimistic.
Apart from all that, has anyone played academy might hero? I found myself completely disregarding warcries. Metamagic helped me way more. Is if just me?
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted October 18, 2015 09:25 AM |
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ChrisD1 said:
Then what are you doing here??????????
This goes directly to you, though:
I don't play and get here at the same time. When I'm here, I'm not there. But the thing is that, when I'm around, I still try to help stranded souls in SC to get their game in motion, because mods there are so bad at helping them. So, yes, I'm still doing my part as a fan helping other fans, which are playing this game as much as I don't like it, and, for doing so, I need to be here to learn what's happening. The difference is that here people seem to know what they want to do. There, many people don't know of the existence of this place, nor they are fond of reading and or understand English in a fair state as to have their problems solved on their on. My reasons to be here are different from any other people, each on its own and there's not begging questions for reasoning for each people, because no other needs to explain themselves to you and your reasoning that: if you don't play it, don't come. If that's how businesses or communities worked, they wouldn't last long, back to the Plato's cave, is that what you want? Yes, it is tiresome getting to back talking of 'old' vs 'new' stuff again and again, but it's even more tiresome using the old times, when things didn't had the time to be polished or not enough feedback, to justify the awful state of the new things and think it's ok, and still, you could play your games back then, which cannot be said about what's being done today. Now they had the time and the feedback to make it work out, and they don't. It needs to be bashed, it needs to be criticized yes, until this canker of thinking 'it's normal getting an unfinished product and as long I have fun it's ok' is pruned from gaming industry as a whole, not only Ubisoft's demise. It is your responsibility, as any of those who are also enjoying the game, pointing it's flaws as well to improve your own gaming experience because there is really much room for improvements.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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