Storm-Giant said:

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I've checked it again and this is what he literally says:

"You have level 1 spells that anybody can acquire, for level 2 you need to have the basic skill, and the magic guild that give you those spells are level 2. And you have up to spells level 5 that you can find in Magic GUilds level 4"

I find weird that a Magic Guild level would have spells from two different levels. Not intuitive...

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Stevie said:

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Erwan said in plain English that apart from the Bar the Initiative System was not yet decided. That there was going to be a consultation with the fanbase on whether if it should be the Classical one turn one action as in Heroes 3 or multiple action points like the ATB in Heroes 5. Yet you and Xavier told us that it's settled that there's going to be a classic one turn one action system. So which is it now? Because I really want the ATB initiative system, and we were even discussing how you can implement that in this thread. Are we gonna be asked about it or is it really set in stone?

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War-overlord said:

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So I got the spell lvls wrong. I've no problem being able to learn multiple lvl spells from one skill-lvl. But perhaps you were right and it was a slip o' the tongue.

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Marzhin said:

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So my understanding is that Erwan mentioned it as an example of gameplay topic on which there was no clear fan consensus and therefore was a good example of the kind of feature that could be voted. However, what he didn't know is that this feature had already been discussed with the VIP fans early during production (with arguments for and against all proposed systems), and a decision had already been taken.

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Dave_Jame said:

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ChrisD1 said:

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dave_jame, having a hero with a specialization at cabirs, making them stronger at a percent, per hero level is smth that would make that hero unique and not just a portrait. how can you not care about hero individuality?
imagine a hero with ice bolt mastery evolving the effectiveness of the spell. you could build on water mastery by choosing the said hero.
like the old times. how can you not care? this game is called "heroes" for a reason.
some heroes having the same qualities with others is scary and it's a  step backward to h6 specializations.
We need to address the specializations.

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I can "not care" simply because I have an opinion. I dislike the fact tha each hero must have an interesting special simply due to the fact, that such an ability drives the focus away from the character itself. Did anybody actually like Gule for his character? Or for his ability to make sharpshooters? (fact I hate that character). Did H2 or H4 need any special abilities to create unique and memorable characters? The reason I don't care, is because I won't care in the game as well. I will chose the hero I like as a character and adjust my strategy to him. not the other way around.

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ChrisD1 said:

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don't tell me you actually notice their story ingame.

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GenyaArikado said:

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ChrisD1 said:

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don't tell me you actually notice their story ingame.

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i do. I guess that might not appeal to fools like you

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Storm-Giant said:

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War-overlord said:

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So I got the spell lvls wrong. I've no problem being able to learn multiple lvl spells from one skill-lvl. But perhaps you were right and it was a slip o' the tongue.

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I'd rather keep only 4 levels of spells and make the difference betweeen levels a bit higher, and make higher level Magic Guilds cost more.

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Xavier Penin said:

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Firstly I apologize for having explained this too fast, I wasn’t happy about myself.

I made a mistake because was thinking of the hero skill level, which we're used to call “skill level n”. We won't use this terminology in the game for that very reason : it's counter-intuitive.

This is how it works:

- Level n magic guild provides level n spells
- Any unskilled hero can cast level 1 spells
- To cast level 2 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at novice rank (aka skill level 1)
- To cast level 3 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at expert rank
- To cast level 4 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at master rank

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Marzhin said:

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- Level n magic guild provides level n spells
- Any unskilled hero can cast level 1 spells
- To cast level 2 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at novice rank (aka skill level 1)
- To cast level 3 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at expert rank
- To cast level 4 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at master rank

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Storm-Giant said:

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Yes Arugaf, it was mentioned several times in yesterday's stream, and I remarked that in the news post

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Marzhin said:

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Xavier Penin said:

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Firstly I apologize for having explained this too fast, I wasn’t happy about myself.

I made a mistake because was thinking of the hero skill level, which we're used to call “skill level n”. We won't use this terminology in the game for that very reason : it's counter-intuitive.

This is how it works:

- Level n magic guild provides level n spells
- Any unskilled hero can cast level 1 spells
- To cast level 2 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at novice rank (aka skill level 1)
- To cast level 3 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at expert rank
- To cast level 4 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at master rank

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As we said during the twitch, there's an incoming Shadow Council article that will explain this particular topic in more depth

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properkheldar said:

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Marzhin, are there any plans/thoughts regarding homosexuality in Ashan? Personally I really appriciate companies that implement this in franschises, if its done right. Stories about close friendships wanting to evolve to something else, but made impossible by factors beyond controll etc. can make for gripping stories. Especially in fantasy settings. Inner battles for characters born in overly brutal and masculine enviroments and so on. Even just subtle hints like in a Sherlock/Dr Watson-style relationship can really and depth to characters.

It would be cool to know If the subject has ben discussed?

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Xavier Penin said:

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Firstly I apologize for having explained this too fast, I wasn’t happy about myself.

I made a mistake because was thinking of the hero skill level, which we're used to call “skill level n”. We won't use this terminology in the game for that very reason : it's counter-intuitive.

This is how it works:

- Level n magic guild provides level n spells
- Any unskilled hero can cast level 1 spells
- To cast level 2 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at novice rank (aka skill level 1)
- To cast level 3 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at expert rank
- To cast level 4 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at master rank

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Marzhin said:

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- Level n magic guild provides level n spells
- Any unskilled hero can cast level 1 spells
- To cast level 2 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at novice rank (aka skill level 1)
- To cast level 3 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at expert rank
- To cast level 4 spells you need to have the magic skill of the relevant school at master rank

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alcibiades said:

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Just a small gribe, but naming the middle skill level "Expert" is a really REALLY bad idea, because through most Heroes games, expert level has been the highest level. If you want to deviate from the basic/advanced/expert scheme I don't have too much problem with that, but please find another name than "Expert" for middle level then.

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