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veco
veco


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posted November 01, 2014 12:02 AM

I think this fuss about the lineups is way too big for what it's worth. Give me a game with interesting mechanics and some randomness for added replayability and I don't give a damn if I get a unicorn or a troglodyte. Lineups are of secondary importance.


PS: oh and throw in a map editor with some modding tools too.
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 12:03 AM

Kimarous said:
It sets a precedent for sore losers to go "Nuh-uh! That didn't count! I demand a revote because it isn't what I wanted!"

*COUGH COUGH*

While I get your point, calling 55% sore losers doesn't seem fair to me.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted November 01, 2014 12:03 AM

Some people are still at that. Can't you just let it go already?

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 12:04 AM
Edited by Galaad at 00:07, 01 Nov 2014.

Stevie said:
Some people are still at that. Can't you just let it go already?

Give me a second round (which seems only fair since Dungeon will benefit from one) and I'll shut up forever about it. Even if Fury wins.
veco said:
Give me a game with interesting mechanics and some randomness for added replayability and I don't give a damn if I get a unicorn or a troglodyte. Lineups are of secondary importance.

I disagree. Lineups are part of the universe you dive into. I rank this of equal importance as gameplay.
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Steyn
Steyn


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posted November 01, 2014 12:17 AM

If you get a second round for the Sylvan line-up voting then I also want a new first round. Who knows how many votes Strength lost because of anti-Fury (or anti-Balance) votes...

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Storm-Giant
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posted November 01, 2014 12:21 AM

For better or worse, we'll never get over Fury victory...I don't envy our mods right now.
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nerevar
nerevar


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posted November 01, 2014 12:23 AM

Steyn said:
If you get a second round for the Sylvan line-up voting then I also want a new first round.

And this is why they shouldn't even try to do that. It will easily lead to people demanding another round for faction votes - because why not...

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 12:24 AM
Edited by Galaad at 00:28, 01 Nov 2014.

Storm-Giant said:
I don't envy our mods right now.

Really ? We're on offtopic discussion thread(?).
I said what I had to anyway

Ah, just to clear this misunderstanding :
nerevar said:
It will easily lead to people demanding another round for faction votes - because why not...

My suggestion was to consider Sylvan's actual vote result as the first round, ruling Strenght out. Allowing Fury vs Balance to have one of them getting higher than 50%.
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Kimarous
Kimarous


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posted November 01, 2014 12:28 AM

Galaad said:
While I get your point, calling 55% sore losers doesn't seem fair to me.

Not the whole 55%... just the ones demanding a revote.

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Storm-Giant
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posted November 01, 2014 12:28 AM

Galaad said:
Storm-Giant said:
I don't envy our mods right now.

Really ? We're on offtopic discussion thread(?).
I said what I had to anyway

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't and I'm not satisfied with the whole Sylvan Line-up vote. But we must have brought that topic like a hundred times in this thread alone. It kind of gets boring, huh
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 12:38 AM
Edited by Galaad at 00:44, 01 Nov 2014.

Storm-Giant said:
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't and I'm not satisfied with the whole Sylvan Line-up vote. But we must have brought that topic like a hundred times in this thread alone. It kind of gets boring, huh

I will never get you wrong Storm
I fight till the end
We need random skills too

Kimarous said:
Not the whole 55%... just the ones demanding a revote.

I'll give your that. Either way, I don't see the harm in making Sylvan benefits the same treatment as Dungeon...
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Storm-Giant
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posted November 01, 2014 12:39 AM

Galaad said:
We need random skills too

Can't argue to that
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jackson
jackson


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posted November 01, 2014 02:02 AM

Galaad said:
Stevie said:
Some people are still at that. Can't you just let it go already?

Give me a second round (which seems only fair since Dungeon will benefit from one) and I'll shut up forever about it. Even if Fury wins.
veco said:
Give me a game with interesting mechanics and some randomness for added replayability and I don't give a damn if I get a unicorn or a troglodyte. Lineups are of secondary importance.

I disagree. Lineups are part of the universe you dive into. I rank this of equal importance as gameplay.


+1,000. Perfectly expressed.

Line-ups are incredibly important, and even though Fury won, the sheer amount of disappointment was immense. I don't think there's any downside to having a second round for the Sylvan line-up. It wouldn't change the results to the first round. It would just be continuing them. It would just increase overall satisfaction. Even if Fury wins, or if Balance actually comes out on top - whichever would win, at least it would have over 50% of votes.

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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted November 01, 2014 02:14 AM

i am against fury line up ,
but come on guys!
second vote sounds ridiculous..
whats done is done!
we should just move on
if indeed there will be a re-vote that's a joke
results are announced and we have to live with it

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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


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posted November 01, 2014 02:19 AM
Edited by dark-whisperer at 02:24, 01 Nov 2014.

Why some of you assume that all 55% that was on loosing side will stick together and prevail against fury?
Its much more plausible that line-up that gathered 45% of votes against two opponents would win against one, since it needs only small fraction to switch votes to its side.

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jackson
jackson


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posted November 01, 2014 02:28 AM

It's not a "second vote" - it's a second round. The first round still counts - we're just continuing it into a second round exactly like with Dungeon. So I really don't think it's ridiculous. I really think they should do it.

And we have no idea how it would play out. That's the point. Fury might still win, and it would officially have the support of at least 50% of voters, but that's not certain to happen.

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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


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Darkness feels no mercy
posted November 01, 2014 02:31 AM

lol
Never gonna happen.
Dream on.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 02:39 AM
Edited by Galaad at 02:40, 01 Nov 2014.

jackson said:
Line-ups are incredibly important, and even though Fury won, the sheer amount of disappointment was immense. I don't think there's any downside to having a second round for the Sylvan line-up. It wouldn't change the results to the first round. It would just be continuing them. It would just increase overall satisfaction. Even if Fury wins, or if Balance actually comes out on top - whichever would win, at least it would have over 50% of votes.

Exactly this.
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DarkLord
DarkLord


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posted November 01, 2014 03:06 AM

jackson said:
It's not a "second vote" - it's a second round. The first round still counts - we're just continuing it into a second round exactly like with Dungeon. So I really don't think it's ridiculous. I really think they should do it.

And we have no idea how it would play out. That's the point. Fury might still win, and it would officially have the support of at least 50% of voters, but that's not certain to happen.


because it's unfair to people who voted for fury!
i personally HATE that line up, and i was fully supporting Strenght
and i dont feel like playing for sylvan anymore just because Fury line up won
BUT they did win the vote, and people shouldn't be denied their preferred choice
that was the rule at the time, just one vote, winner gets the line up they choose  

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 01, 2014 03:11 AM
Edited by Galaad at 03:17, 01 Nov 2014.

DarkLord said:
because it's unfair to people who voted for fury!


No it is not. And a lot of Fury voters are suspected of being hatred former Fortress voters wanting to ruin the game anyway (remember the comments?).
Let's clear this out, and if Fury truly is the most favored faction by overall community, it will prevail a second round.
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