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RMZ1989
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posted December 18, 2014 11:49 AM |
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Elvin said:
It gives a general idea but on the other hand it doesn't mean much. In H5 alpha necropolis had incorporeal on ghosts, wraiths AND spectral dragons  And in early H6 marksmen had more movement than cavaliers. Even stats on the release are subject to change so I wouldn't put much faith in pre-alpha stats.
I agree but it still gives you a nice idea of where they are heading with this. I like the fact that Marksman has 8 HP while Wolf has 30 even though they are "same" tier. Ranged units should be weaker in terms of HP, especially the low tier ones.
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Stevie
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posted December 18, 2014 11:50 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 11:51, 18 Dec 2014.
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dark-whisperer said:
Avirosb said:
From my perspective the 6 and (as yet) 7 town screens are on par with the H5 town screens, only with different problems.
H6 townscreens were utter sh!t. They are no where near H5.
Methinks they looked too bright and shiny. The NWC style, a bit more rugged, was definitely better imo. I wish they'd return to that. They definitely had the right idea with the MMX textures and design, I wish they'd bring that to Heroes too.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted December 18, 2014 12:07 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Ranged units should be weaker in terms of HP, especially the low tier ones.
No, they should have a lower melee defense than melee units. That in and of itself should lead to higher casualties among them when they end up in melee fights, not a reduced hitpoint total.
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posted December 18, 2014 12:14 PM |
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Stevie said:
dark-whisperer said:
Avirosb said:
From my perspective the 6 and (as yet) 7 town screens are on par with the H5 town screens, only with different problems.
H6 townscreens were utter sh!t. They are no where near H5.
Methinks they looked too bright and shiny. The NWC style, a bit more rugged, was definitely better imo. I wish they'd return to that. They definitely had the right idea with the MMX textures and design, I wish they'd bring that to Heroes too.
I guess it depends on town - some were better than others in H6. In general I liked art style of H6 town screens - but then some of them were no good. I didn't like Heaven in particular ... also the dungeon was way to bright and purpule for my taste. Inferno was ok ... only problem was placement of some buildings, which was odd, and it was hard to distingush some of them from background. However I personaly liked Sanctuary and Barbarian towns in particular.
In H5 Inferno was also by far the worst imo ... folowed by dungeon, while Heaven town was great, also I liked Sylvan a lot... idk why tho.
But that's only my personal opinion on artworks - like i said in another thread - they all look lifeless to me, except for the ones from "Heroes of Might and Magic: A strategic quest" 
From these 2 that we saw for H7, Heaven looks to me far superior to Academy if I'm completly hornest. But then again - gameplay is far more important to me personaly than looks alone. It's nice to have good looking game i guess, but that alone can't make a good game. While i feel the oposite to be quite true, even if looks arent exactly amazing, but are atleast passable (which they always were), but gameplay is awsome, it makes for a great game.
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RMZ1989
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posted December 18, 2014 12:31 PM |
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Maurice said:
RMZ1989 said:
Ranged units should be weaker in terms of HP, especially the low tier ones.
No, they should have a lower melee defense than melee units. That in and of itself should lead to higher casualties among them when they end up in melee fights, not a reduced hitpoint total.
I am talking about balance perspective, and if you give them the same HP but lower defense, that just encourages turtling as you will block your ranged units and they won't be attacked by enemy melee units.
And since you would give them the same HP, that means that even spells won't be as effective vs. them as they should. Factions with more ranged units than other factions will most likely come out ahead with turtling, which is just a bad design.
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Avirosb
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posted December 18, 2014 12:35 PM |
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dark-whisperer said:
Avirosb said:
From my perspective the 6 and (as yet) 7 town screens are on par with the H5 town screens, only with different problems.
H6 townscreens were utter sh!t. They are no where near H5.
That's nice of you to think that.
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Stevie
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posted December 18, 2014 12:39 PM |
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Well, the graphics that I appreciated the most were from Heroes 3. Heroes 4 already started to look more cartoonish to me and from there it's always been like that with each Heroes. However I did appreciate Heroes 5 even if it looked the way it did. Wasn't really a fan of Heroes 6.
But I hope Heroes 7 will be different and closer to Heroes 3 in that regards. So far it doesn't really look that way, but I don't mind it. I get the complaints on the blog that they want a more realistic approach but I can't see that happening. It's probably too late for a remodel at this point.
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ShadowMaster
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posted December 18, 2014 12:52 PM |
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Stevie said:
But I hope Heroes 7 will be different and closer to Heroes 3
Nope. They are getting away from HoMM and closer to Warcraft in every installment.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted December 18, 2014 01:12 PM |
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Nah, they peaked in Warcraftiness with H5.
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Stevie
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posted December 18, 2014 01:15 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 13:35, 18 Dec 2014.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 18, 2014 01:35 PM |
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Imo H3 has the most unique look in the series, as well as most "realistic" aproach - if unicorns, dragons, and fairies have any sort of realism to them.
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Storm-Giant
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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted December 18, 2014 01:52 PM |
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Stevie said:
Edit: I see you Ubi-Nox. I hope you're preparing a post for us for later tonight 
Yes, because for Stevie the Hungry three updates in the first three days of the week aren't enough 
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posted December 18, 2014 01:59 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
Imo H3 has the most unique look in the series, as well as most "realistic" aproach - if unicorns, dragons, and fairies have any sort of realism to them.
IMO H2 has the best atmosphere of all the series
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posted December 18, 2014 02:15 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said:
Edit: I see you Ubi-Nox. I hope you're preparing a post for us for later tonight
Yes, because for Stevie the Hungry three updates in the first three days of the week aren't enough
I already have to survive the weekend with no posts! Can I at least have my daily dose in the workdays? 
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted December 18, 2014 02:33 PM |
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Stevie said:
Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said:
Edit: I see you Ubi-Nox. I hope you're preparing a post for us for later tonight
Yes, because for Stevie the Hungry three updates in the first three days of the week aren't enough
I already have to survive the weekend with no posts! Can I at least have my daily dose in the workdays?
You can re-read all of the information that is on their site and try to look out for some hidden code or meaning. 
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Storm-Giant
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posted December 18, 2014 02:35 PM |
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You know, Greed is a sin...
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Rakshasa92
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posted December 18, 2014 02:36 PM |
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RMZ1989 said:
Stevie said:
Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said:
Edit: I see you Ubi-Nox. I hope you're preparing a post for us for later tonight
Yes, because for Stevie the Hungry three updates in the first three days of the week aren't enough
I already have to survive the weekend with no posts! Can I at least have my daily dose in the workdays?
You can re-read all of the information that is on their site and try to look out for some hidden code or meaning.
I really miss the Glories in Haven, I mean when you compare them with the awefully bland new female crusaders that took their place they were like the most original creatures ever.
And I really hated HOMM6, so that do tells a lot.
The female haven units is by far the worst unit in the history of HOMM ever in my opinion.
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RMZ1989
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posted December 18, 2014 02:38 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
I really miss the Glories in Haven, I mean when you compare them with the awefully bland new female crusaders that took their place they were like the most original creatures ever.
And I really hated HOMM6, so that do tells a lot.
The female haven units is by far the worst unit in the history of HOMM ever in my opinion.
That is cool and all, but why did you quote me? lol
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Storm-Giant
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posted December 18, 2014 02:40 PM |
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Maybe there is a hidden message in Rakshasa post 
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 18, 2014 02:41 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 14:41, 18 Dec 2014.
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How exactly is that even cool, when the glories were nothing but teleporting lightbulbs? Add to that the flashing horse and you get the reason why Heroes 6 Haven failed so much. Heroes 7 Haven seems much more down to earth.
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