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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted February 05, 2015 04:40 PM

LizardWarrior said:
How can they stop a juggernaut whose armies only grow after each battle? That is a plot hole in Ashan
They attack when they're at their weakest: Being busy decorating skeletons.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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the reckoning is at hand
posted February 05, 2015 04:43 PM

LMAO

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted February 05, 2015 04:57 PM
Edited by Rakshasa92 at 17:04, 05 Feb 2015.

War-overlord said:
Minion said:
Epic facepalm, lol. Just when I thought he had reached his low point

Like love, hatred can be a blinding thing.


Hate is just as natural as love, even more natural as love is often fake and used to gain selfish money or items.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted February 05, 2015 05:06 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
Hate is just as natural as love, even more natural as love is often fake and used to gain selfish money or items.
Fake love isn't actually love, thus it should not be used against it.

Regardless, hatred keeps one strong, love just generates more problems

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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted February 05, 2015 05:07 PM

Sorts said:
If there is one nice thing that Ubi has attempted, then its attempting to explain how Necropolis and Heresh can exist as a separate and openly acting lands and a faction. The friggin Deyja was a plot hole in H3. How can a kingdom that "harvests" its neighbor's populaton exist several hundread years? (The Ashan zombies and skeletons are animated remains, The Enrothian ones actually have their original soul trapped in them) I know Erathia and Avlee had occasional issues, but in such case an alliance of them would probably have destroyed it long ago.


Today the nation of Deyja, barren home of the Necromancers for nearly a millenium, continues to grow like a cancerous scar in the heart of the AvLee. The elves have been unable to stop this slow spread of lifelessness, nor has any other nation even tried. No war has ever been declared on Deyja - even if the Necromancers were completely destroyed, the land is uninhabitable.

But the Necromancers have two true enemies: the Wizards and Alchemists who spawned them, and the Elves who must now live with them. In my humble opinion, it is but a matter of time until someone does declare war upon Deyja.

http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes&action=display&s=50&num=1208869119&start=50

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Sandro400
Sandro400


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Shadow of Death
posted February 05, 2015 05:10 PM
Edited by Sandro400 at 17:11, 05 Feb 2015.

Avirosb said:
How come the wizards suddenly stopped exterminating the necromancers out of principle?


Who said they did?
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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


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posted February 05, 2015 05:17 PM

LizardWarrior said:
GenyaArikado said:

LizardWarrior said:
Genya is the female version of Jeremiah, no idea why people take her seriously.


I am a male thank you very much. And i invite you to find and mysoginist or misantropists posts made by me.


You aren't being constructive, you complain all the time about complainers, yet you act exactly like the ones you hate. You are using one-liners, rude comments, request unnecessary bans, insult people who don't share your opinion, call them useless, also you defend things without bringing arguments against people who do exactly like you then say they are hateful. Also I called you female version of Jeremiah_Emo because you requested repeatedly female version of units (liches and vampires to be more exact) and you can't take humor, cheer up, I don't do that to attack you, just to underline some traits and determine you to correct them


Define constructive?

I complain about filling a thread with 20 pages arguing about (ie) the lich not having a skull face and how the universe wasn't stupid like that, etc. It's frankly disruptive. Logic doesn't work with them as the War-overlord/Stevie proved so why would i bother wasting my time thinking arguments to people who just dont care or twist text to their most remote an unintended meaning to fit their arguments? How is that useful?

Frankly if you have been paying attention to me this much, you should know i do bring arguments when i say something, just that i dont bother repeating them over and over.

And no, i didnt "request" female creatures for the sake of it. I said i wanted a more royal acting vampire and since odds where that if it was male, they would go for the "vampire knight" route again (which they did) maybe making them female would have resulted into a more H3/4 vampire. I didnt request female liches either, my idea was a Namtaru replacement, i just supported someone else's idea since i like the Hel archetype.

The only creature i actually requested to be female was the Kensei, since the Naga* were always female until H6

*The sanctuary has a female naga, but i'm talking about the iconic heroes Naga unit with the swords

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Minion
Minion


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posted February 05, 2015 05:19 PM

Necromancers should be hiding now at the beginning of H7, am I mistaken? Because of the War of the Broken Staff. Dunno if the Wizards are hunting them actively though, do they see them as a threat anymore...
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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted February 05, 2015 05:25 PM

HOMM-Ashan = Warcraft/WOW Miss Genywoman.

DEAL.WITH.IT.OR.LEAVE

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted February 05, 2015 05:30 PM

I can deal with it.
Can you?

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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted February 05, 2015 05:31 PM
Edited by Stevie at 17:32, 05 Feb 2015.

A message from the MMH7 team
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler

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Rakshasa92
Rakshasa92


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posted February 05, 2015 05:39 PM

Stevie said:
A message from the MMH7 team


OMG LOL! What have you people done to their cute little site? I can see them cancel the entire game!

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted February 05, 2015 05:39 PM

Quote:
its legacy
His legacy.
Regardless I can't stay mad at the guy. He's a funny dude.

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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


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Supreme Hero
posted February 05, 2015 05:41 PM

Rakshasa92 said:
HOMM-Ashan = Warcraft/WOW Miss Genywoman.

DEAL.WITH.IT.OR.LEAVE


I'm fine with that

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supertommy
supertommy


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posted February 05, 2015 05:44 PM

Stevie said:
A message from the MMH7 team


About time.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted February 05, 2015 05:45 PM

The update we've all been waiting for!

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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


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Townscreen Architect
posted February 05, 2015 05:47 PM

@GenyaArikado
There are a lot of similarities between WoW/WC3 and MMH6/7 in terms of death factions.

1) Green colour: This is the colour of the plague developed by the scourge and later the Forsaken, but also disease that is spread by Abominations and even appearing in their blight terrain, see here, here, [url=http://www.battlereports.com/users/WhosGotLag_IDO/Report15/[13]visitors.jpg]here[/url] and also greenish glow on the buildings here and here and the green spirits/whatever they are circling the main building here. How convenient that the toxic green is also the main colour of the necropolis nowadays. There is a green glow on them and the green spirit/whatever is circling around again in both town screen and on the adventure map, see hereand here. In H6 Necro units are all green. In H7 it was toned down on units but the spider screen is still green, see here. I understand that Namtaru venom is green, cause she is all green, and that is the reason why the eyes of every living/dead/undead necro thing has green eyes, but please explain why there is so much green on the screen. Are those fumes of Namtaru venom? Then every single thing on Ashan should be green from inhaling those fumes. (Now I an begining to imagine that they are spraying themselves as if it's a deodorant... A Namtaru venom a day, keeps the doctor away)

2) Egyptian/Mesopotamian Style: Blizzard necro beside this style has some let's say 'common' gothic/horror buildings like slaughterhouse, crypt and graveyard... The rest are usually are either pyramidal or have an obelisk-like part which is seen on altar of darkness, graveyard, crypt, tomb of relics, boneyard, not to mention the obvious necropolis which levitates - this, there is one pyramidal structure in H7 spider screen that also levitates. All this can be seen here. However, I must say that the scourge doesn't have its own architecture, they took over this style when they conquered nerubians (spiders). Spider cult also has this style pyramids + obelisks. H6 and H7. When comparing the two, the cult has similar architecture to nerubians. See this, this and this.

3) Spiders:

a) Units and spikes:
Crypt fiend
hero with spikes
heroes with spider spikes
MN
Fate spinner
lich with spikes
ghoul with spikes
skeleton + spikes
lich + spier legs and spikes
spider unit

b) Buildings - spider legs, spikes,:
spider legs on the top of zigurat
thing on goldmine
similar like zigurat, just made of bones
spider legs while summoning their buildings
Spikes on buildings
necropolis with spikes
H6 necro: pyramids, spider legs, and spikes
H7 spider screen where spikes, spider legs can be seen everywhere on that pyramid complex among other pyramids

Overall the common motif can be found in both franchises: spiders influences the dead -> Scourge adopted nerubian architecture, while spider zealotism/fanatacism influences architecture, coat of arms, symbols, units, armor, etc.

4) As you already mentioned Arthas vampire...
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Kronos1000
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posted February 05, 2015 05:48 PM

Finally. That comment section was desperately in need of moderation.
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verriker
verriker


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We don't need another 'eroes
posted February 05, 2015 05:49 PM

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On a side note:  Erwan is not directly involved in the actual development of the game. He is the creative director of the brand and helps us staying true to its legacy, but he is not making the call on most of the decisions we discuss on this website. We are. So calling for his firing from Ubisoft is both unacceptable and completely mis-targeted.



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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


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Maths, maths everywhere!
posted February 05, 2015 05:50 PM

LizardWarrior said:
Minion said:

Epic facepalm, lol. Just when I thought he had reached his low point


Shh... the abyss is starring back at you

Calling him "the abyss" is too generous. I would rather call him "a puddle".
Speaking about Necropolis, this whole situation made me realise one thing - I do not care about graphics at all. Heroes may be a game of tables only but as long as fighting them with your own tables would play well, I have nothing against it. I will most probably like Necro because it has a proper Necromancy, not the next healing spell like in Heroes VI (this was an abomination, not the spider cult, at least in my opinion).

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