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Kenishi
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posted February 12, 2015 08:23 PM |
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War-overlord I could see a lizard like faction in the near future there is The Unknown East and Thallan. But it is strange that 3 games in the Ashan universe lizard folk are non existent.
I love the lore found in the map thanks Marzhin I really like the info on the Free cities and the Shanriya ... consider me intrigued.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 12, 2015 08:28 PM |
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Kenishi said:
War-overlord I could see a lizard like faction in the near future there is The Unknown East and Thallan. But it is strange that 3 games in the Ashan universe lizard folk are non existent.
I love the lore found in the map thanks Marzhin I really like the info on the Free cities and the Shanriya ... consider me intrigued.
Lizardmen do exist in Ashan though
...as beastmen created by the wizards. so if we see them they'll probably be part of sanctuary or stronghold. Most likely stronghold since fortress and stronghold has been somewhat connected in h3-4.
i love how the only reason i know about lizardmen in ashan is because of tidbits i snatched up on this forum. Love ya, guys 
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted February 12, 2015 08:29 PM |
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Kenishi said:
War-overlord I could see a lizard like faction in the near future there is The Unknown East and Thallan.
Thallan is this continent name.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 12, 2015 08:29 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
cleglaw said:
ONLY IF THEY DONT COPY WOW, and produce an original mmo experience.
Do you honestly believe they won't?
Problem with MMO-s is that most of them are copies (in smaller or greater extent, but still) of WoW. Moreover, whole MMO market is ruled by WoW and creating new, successful game is basically a wonder.
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted February 12, 2015 08:36 PM |
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Avonu said:
Kenishi said:
War-overlord I could see a lizard like faction in the near future there is The Unknown East and Thallan.
Thallan is this continent name.
Really !? figured that it was referring to an unexplored region of forest before the The Unknown East. Thanks for the clear up.
Are there lizardman created by wizards? need to re-read the compendium ...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 12, 2015 09:10 PM |
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Kenishi said:
Are there lizardman created by wizards? need to re-read the compendium ...
It's not in the Compendium, but in Falagars bio.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 12, 2015 09:53 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Kenishi said:
Are there lizardman created by wizards? need to re-read the compendium ...
It's not in the Compendium, but in Falagars bio.
Since they are Beastmen and new Stronghold is a desert faction there is a Chance that they might appear in it since they are half-reptiles and these creatures feel very confortably in hot climate.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 12, 2015 10:07 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
Since they are Beastmen and new Stronghold is a desert faction there is a Chance that they might appear in it since they are half-reptiles and these creatures feel very confortably in hot climate.
I hope not, Lizardmen should get their own faction.
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted February 12, 2015 10:25 PM |
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Actualy I would like to see Lizardman-Naga faction. Imo naga are great, and I like sanctuary, but if they added lizardmen into that mix, instead of those snow maidens and walking sharks it would meake a great faction. If it's naga only I belive it's a bit bland. Same with lizardman. This is why they added bull and gnoll in there to mix things up in H3.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted February 12, 2015 10:30 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
Actualy I would like to see Lizardman-Naga faction. Imo naga are great, and I like sanctuary, but if they added lizardmen into that mix, instead of those snow maidens and walking sharks it would meake a great faction. If it's naga only I belive it's a bit bland. Same with lizardman. This is why they added bull and gnoll in there to mix things up in H3.
The sharks and Maidens were nice imho. It were those spring spirits that draged the faction down
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted February 12, 2015 11:02 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
Actualy I would like to see Lizardman-Naga faction. Imo naga are great, and I like sanctuary, but if they added lizardmen into that mix, instead of those snow maidens and walking sharks it would meake a great faction. If it's naga only I belive it's a bit bland. Same with lizardman. This is why they added bull and gnoll in there to mix things up in H3.
The sharks and Maidens were nice imho. It were those spring spirits that draged the faction down
+1
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted February 12, 2015 11:15 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Zombi_Wizzard said:
Actualy I would like to see Lizardman-Naga faction. Imo naga are great, and I like sanctuary, but if they added lizardmen into that mix, instead of those snow maidens and walking sharks it would meake a great faction. If it's naga only I belive it's a bit bland. Same with lizardman. This is why they added bull and gnoll in there to mix things up in H3.
The sharks and Maidens were nice imho. It were those spring spirits that draged the faction down
Sharkmen were a great core unit I thought. But spring spirits, snow maidens, and kappa felt the most out of place. I also dislike most of the line up having Japanese names. A few is fine, but all the upgrades was just overkilling it.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted February 12, 2015 11:19 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Sharkmen were a great core unit I thought. But spring spirits, snow maidens, and kappa felt the most out of place. I also dislike most of the line up having Japanese names. A few is fine, but all the upgrades was just overkilling it.
Sorry but a faction that is heavily inspired by japanese culture, has to have their mythological creatures integraded into it. Kappas, Snow maidens, and such creatures, they are almost mandatory for the faction's feel as long as it goes for this image.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted February 12, 2015 11:20 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Sharkmen were a great core unit I thought. But spring spirits, snow maidens, and kappa felt the most out of place. I also dislike most of the line up having Japanese names. A few is fine, but all the upgrades was just overkilling it.
Funny thing about that Japanese names was that they were in most cases just translations of English names of the non-upgraded units, so that was quite lazy, I think. If the name is to be Japanese, then the unupgraded and an upgraded version should get them, not just the unupgraded ones.
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Kenishi
Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
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posted February 12, 2015 11:23 PM |
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Indeed and looks like the hero first appeared in the Savage See DLC for Heroes 6 so yeah it is possible It first i thought the Hero is from MM Heroes 5 and since the H5 canon as of late is being revised and only info/facts from h6 onward is kept as "in line with lore" had to make sure, also taking in account that wyvarn for example are ancient "giant lizards" mutated by exposure of nexus of Air it is possible to extrapolate that other so cold lizards have been mutated resulting in a lineup made out of lizardman that have run from the wizard but chose not to go with the orcs instated end up in marsh like/tropical environment where they tamed said lizards. I know its wishful thinking but I guess if Ubisoft ever wanted to go and bring back the old Fortress (although in a new name) they could without screwing there one myths established in Ashan.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 12, 2015 11:26 PM |
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Kenishi said:
I know its wishful thinking but I guess if Ubisoft ever wanted to go and bring back the old Fortress (although in a new name) they could without screwing there one myths established in Ashan.
I think I did a pretty good jorb showing how it could be done right here.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 12, 2015 11:58 PM |
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TDL said:
mmo is blasphemy...
Agreed. Heroes simply is not meant to follow that path. Heroes is one of these games you can singleplay, hotseat with friends and family, play casually. And for hardcore players, there will always be the hardcore custom maps and scenarios provided by the maniacs. Since the Warcraft comparison is popular, I remember how much I loved Warcraft II - Tides of Darkness as a child. Warcraft III disappointed me, and when WoW happened, I simply completely lost interest in that brand. The same would happen with Heroes. Being able to play and quit whenever I want, is yet another reason why I love the franchise so much. Also, the game would suffer an extremely high amount of alterations if it had to be adapted to turn into MMO, it would simply be another game. Heroes Online is here for that, and for a browser game, I think it's awesome. I personally do not like it, but I know is still a project, give it more years to grow, and for people seeking the MMO experience within Ashan I am 100% confident it will do the trick. But Heroes of Might and Magic, no, I believe this is not the purpose.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted February 13, 2015 05:39 AM |
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Heroes no, the general might and magic franchise on the other hand....
Although yeah, i a mmorpg would rip off WoW because WoW pretty much set the rules of what a mmorpg is.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted February 13, 2015 09:52 AM |
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If M&M would turn into mmo it would imo not be very good. mmo plays quite diferent than clasic rpg. so it would lose all feel to it. Altho I never played M & M games, from what i saw in Dark Mesiah, it just don't fit mmo. Just look at how Elder Scrolls: Online ruined it.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted February 13, 2015 10:54 AM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
If M&M would turn into mmo it would imo not be very good. mmo plays quite diferent than clasic rpg. so it would lose all feel to it. Altho I never played M & M games, from what i saw in Dark Mesiah, it just don't fit mmo. Just look at how Elder Scrolls: Online ruined it.
Agreed. There's a line between "This single-player game would be awesome with a multiplayer mode!" and "MMO is the way of the future!" Just saying, letting two players loose in Skyrim would be infinitely better than the mangled mess of ESO.
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