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JollyJoker
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 09:00 AM |
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kiryu133 said: so if you can't make a proper Succubi, why even have it in the game?
can be applied to Liches, vampires, Cerberus etc as needed.
Because we already know that Ubisoft is using the names, but uses their version of it. Sometimes expectation roused by a name just differs from the real experience.
Obviously, in Ashan Succubae can be real nice gals - likeable, sexy, part of a happy three- or foursome with an Angel Seductress, and generally everything an adolescent boy might dream about, including the kinkier stuff.
In short, Succubae (and probably Incubi as well) work as PR agents for Urgash, advertising the brighter side of demon worshipping.
I mean, why so serious?
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kiryu133
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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 10, 2015 09:03 AM |
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Edited by kiryu133 at 09:08, 10 Mar 2015.
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Avirosb said: Because my lore, that's why
Hands of my masterpiece!
JollyJoker said:
I mean, why so serious?
i'm not, just made a joke based on the overall response to similair happenings and responses in this very community
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 09:10 AM |
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For those who think the H5 succubus is ugly and question her flaming pubes, remember that succubi are masters of illusion. You think you are bedding a gorgeous gal, but suddenly she turns out to be a demoness burning you Johnson and taking your soul
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 10, 2015 10:11 AM |
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Well ... When I said I wanted to bring back some beauty, I didn't mean boobs nor expected a huge debate whether the Succubus is hot or not.
Before we completely change the subject, from all Succubi posted, here is my winner:
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kiryu133
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Highly illogical
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posted March 10, 2015 10:13 AM |
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Galaad said:
Before we completely change the subject, from all Succubi posted, here is my winner:
love her expression. dat eyebrow
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted March 10, 2015 10:44 AM |
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What the Heroes franchise needs is more anime
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted March 10, 2015 10:46 AM |
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kiryu133 said: so if you can't make a proper Succubi, why even have it in the game?
The point is really not a question of seducing the player, but being attractive enough that you as a player can imagine the unit will be able to quite easily seduce ingame characters. Overall, the game uses representations to indicate concepts. Stack size number on a creature is a representation of a regiment, you don't see the full regiment. The battle field is a representation of a real battlefield, like you might see in the Total War games.
So why would a Succubus be represented ingame as the real deal, which would bring the game to 18+?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 10, 2015 10:55 AM |
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Avirosb said: What the Heroes franchise needs is more anime
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 11:14 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 12:12, 10 Mar 2015.
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There's no way a succubus has to look like. The main defining attribute is its ability to enthrall and instill lust into its victims. It can look like a voluptuous model, or it can be hairy with tails and hooves. What you guys are doing is describe a version of a succubus that you yourselves desire. Sometimes I think you forgot what the purpose of a succubus is. Try viewing things from its perspective. A succubus is not there to give you sex, it's there to take your soul away and hurt you. An encounter with a succubus would be a tease, where there's a promise but no delivery, and the succubus takes pleasure in that, it likes to see you tormented. If you resists the temptation, the succubus is powerless because under free will it cannot hurt you. But if you desire it, then it'll have its way with you.
Notice how I say "it" and not "she". Because a succubus is a form of a demon, and demons like angels are gender-less. So there's no carnal desire from it, it's just a desire to harm you and enslave your soul.
Well, in Ashan, none of this has to be true. Succubi can lust and have intercourse if one so wants. They can take whichever form you like, a more sensual one with voluptuous forms, a more BDSM one with whips and chains, a more pure one alluding to chastity, doesn't matter. I just has to instill lust.
My 2 cents.
Anyway, I think the Succubus is the last problem this franchise has.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted March 10, 2015 11:48 AM |
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The biggest is obviously the Cerberus
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 12:00 PM |
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Quote: For those who think the H5 succubus is ugly and question her flaming pubes, remember that succubi are masters of illusion. You think you are bedding a gorgeous gal, but suddenly she turns out to be a demoness burning you Johnson and taking your soul
That actually sounds pretty hot.
By the way, I mentioned that I cannot stand looking at Uriel's face.
I mean, find me a decent official artwork of him besides this one. Honestly, why did they have to give him such an ugly design...
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 12:16 PM |
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Avirosb said: The biggest is obviously the Cerberus
Well, I like the Model of Cerberus a lot but it really needs third head.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 01:05 PM |
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JollyJoker gets it
Avirosb said:
GenyaArikado said: Honestly i feel the H6 design was an attempt to ment Jezebeth, Biara and Xana styles into one being. I feel it succeeded.
A success for transexuals everywhere
i wish alci post had come later. This would have been the mother of easy jokes.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted March 10, 2015 01:52 PM |
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Isn't it funny that they got problems with the only creature that should be sexualized, yet they manage to turn dungeon into a town of hookers (I'm looking at you H5)
JollyJoker said:
You can't do that in a 12+ game - it wouldn't be easy anyway.
That's why Succubae are a pretty difficult matter.
Actually it's 16+ now, so it shouldn't be that hard, 16+ allows nudity. And seriously, which 16 year old with internet connection haven't seen porn nowdays, the succubus would be softcore
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 02:49 PM |
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i think that metal thong is pretty sexualized but apparently that's just me
Quote: In modern representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress; whereas, in the past, succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.
the aquiline face is fine.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 10, 2015 02:57 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
In modern representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress; whereas, in the past, succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.
Quote: A succubus may take a form of a beautiful young girl but closer inspection may reveal deformities upon their bodies, such as bird-like claws or serpentine tails.
We too can use Wikipedia ^^
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 03:04 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
GenyaArikado said:
In modern representations, a succubus may or may not appear in dreams and is often depicted as a highly attractive seductress or enchantress; whereas, in the past, succubi were generally depicted as frightening and demonic.
you might want to look at that face well
Quote: A succubus may take a form of a beautiful young girl but closer inspection may reveal deformities upon their bodies, such as bird-like claws or serpentine tails.
I dont even get where are you trying to get, you're being argumentative for the sake of it. A demon daring to have a not supermodel face is ok. The Ashan succubi and incubi have powers for that snow but even then it's just how the model was designed. Xana, Lamia, Daeva, Jezebeth and the Succubi/Lilim artwork has them having good looking faces.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 10, 2015 03:07 PM |
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I keep wondering how many pages of this thread have been filled with this succubus subject, a simple unit that's not even going to be in H7 - as far as it goes.
It's almost as if we start talking about potatoes - well, attractive sort of potatoes, that is. Burning, lusty and sensual potatoes (hmmmm).
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 03:10 PM |
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At this point it's an idiotic discussion indeed. However i'd rather have it over the normal stuff talked in this thread.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 10, 2015 03:13 PM |
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As long as H7 keeps being only a normal game, rather uninteresting to talk about, there won't be anything worth more than discussing burning boobs, it seems. :/
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