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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 10, 2015 03:36 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
you might want to look at that face well
I dont even get where are you trying to get, you're being argumentative for the sake of it. A demon daring to have a not supermodel face is ok. The Ashan succubi and incubi have powers for that snow but even then it's just how the model was designed. Xana, Lamia, Daeva, Jezebeth and the Succubi/Lilim artwork has them having good looking faces.
Hmmm... I may be blind, but it's a normal female face, isn't it?
I'm trying to say to you that even in the past Succubus was considered to have beautiful look (but with demonic deformities, the tail is ofc frightening but it can be hidden). She (or it, depends on the point of view) can't seduce with a snap of her fingers, Succubus plays by being sexy and attracting. Ofc some of this attractiveness is "magical" and ofc they can be shape-shifters. It's not like siren who use just their voice.
Sir Richard Rolly (XIV century) once described an encounter with Succubus, which he admits was "a very beautiful woman". As I said, in the eyes of man they will be pretty and desirable.
Ashan Succubus's portrayal pretty much fits it's portrayal in Kabbalah.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted March 10, 2015 03:40 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 15:40, 10 Mar 2015.
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Would be cool to have some uggies in the game, would be a welcome addition to all the plain faces.
Something à la H2 Ghosts and Trolls, or maybe H3/H4 Harpies...
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 10, 2015 03:42 PM |
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Avirosb said:
Would be cool to have some uggies in the game, would be a welcome addition to all the plain faces.
Uhm, the Orcs are coming! 
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted March 10, 2015 04:02 PM |
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This is the closest I got, and it's still more plain than ugg.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 04:33 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
She (or it, depends on the point of view) can't seduce with a snap of her fingers, Succubus plays by being sexy and attracting. Ofc some of this attractiveness is "magical" and ofc they can be shape-shifters. It's not like siren who use just their voice.
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Despite their truly terrifying appearance, the Succubus Seducers possess a magnificent voice. Listening to even a few of their bewitching words is enough to become helplessly trapped in their power
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I knew I should o’ killed her! But something made me wanna kiss her instead.” Many a soldier who was lucky enough to survive an encounter with a Lilim on the battlefield, tells the same story. The creature has a mesmerizing power, and its sulfurous perfume seems to contain a hidden promise of pleasure, if its assailants would simply throw down their weapons.
yes she can.
Avirosb said:
Would be cool to have some uggies in the game, would be a welcome addition to all the plain faces.
Something à la H2 Ghosts and Trolls, or maybe H3/H4 Harpies...
technically her
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 10, 2015 04:38 PM |
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Topic change. Or a really Off topic post
Looks like the next DoC expansion will have Swamp based Nagas (Shown art)
Apart the fact that this is the 4th major sub-faction introduced, how do you people feel about this.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 04:43 PM |
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I wouldnt mind a lizardmen faction based in swamp nagas.
However i'd rather have them come along dwarves in "Degrees of Ice"
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 04:47 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
I'm trying to say to you that even in the past Succubus was considered to have beautiful look (but with demonic deformities, the tail is ofc frightening but it can be hidden).
Well - no.
The Succubus - the word is from the Latin succumbere, which means "lying under or below" - has been used as an explanation for sinful dreams with an ejaculation (that gave people a ot of thought in earlier times). Those demons were used as an explanation, so when they started out with that, it wasn't their fault (which changed later; when they started to go after "witches" they assumed they would wish for such visits).
A very common theory was that first a Succubus would rob the semen of a man, then change into an Incubus to make a woman pregnant - who would bear a so-caled changeling.
Demonic stuff can never be beautiful - it's ugly and appeals only to the basest and most depraved desires, which basically is the gift of the demons: to infuse people with these desires.
So basically a Succubus would be a creature of Urgash's with the ability to instill insatable (base) desire in people - do it right there and then in the kinkiest ways...
It MUST NOT even involve beauty (or attraction based on that) - as I said, it's like in some of those hardcore horror stories, for example
this one
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 04:48 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Topic change. Or a really Off topic post
Looks like the next DoC expansion will have Swamp based Nagas (Shown art)
Apart the fact that this is the 4th major sub-faction introduced, how do you people feel about this.
Where can I read more about that, and preferably, see some more artwork?
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 10, 2015 04:57 PM |
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Sligneris said:
Where can I read more about that?
Depends on what you would wish to know.
Currently the artworks for the "new" set have been showcased on the DoC facebook page (Link)
If you want to know more about the naga subfactions. I could tell you what I know from H6, MaM X, and DoC. The Lore topic Galaad made would be perfect for such a talk, and I beliv some would correct my knowladge, and more details.
If you wan't to know more about this faction, then I can't help. The story of the 2nd DoC arch is not known to me, and the full card set aswell. The expansion was acording to some sources already published in China, so if you would find somebody from that part of the world, who plays it, they might have more information.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 10, 2015 05:02 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
yes she can.
Hello, I was talking about Succubus in general. Not Ashan. In Ashan they often just use a famous name and give to creatures. Cerberus, Medusa etc.
Seductress, btw, was in H5 and may be out of canon.
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@Dave, remind me, was it said that these Nagas will be swamp based? I didn't get such impression from the arts.
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@JJ, I won't argue about the origins of Succubus myth, but I already gave a quote from a man who "has seen a Succubus"; he and many others describe them as being very beautiful.
That's the thing - their true form may be frightening, but they will appear as sexy chick and seduce based on that. Or the victim will have a picture of said woman.
As for Ashan, they were quite directly described as beautiful, but in carnal, sensual way, unlike the Angels.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 10, 2015 05:07 PM |
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@Sandro400: Well I based this on the note on MMDoC's FB page which went:Quote:
The Sanctuary's forces have been gathering in the swamps.
It is a 3h old post at this moment, so a rather new one, and I said it "looks like", so nothing more official then the qoute. But The Artwork looks rather different then the normal ones, and i wanted to know some opinions.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted March 10, 2015 05:17 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
If you wan't to know more about this faction, then I can't help. The story of the 2nd DoC arch is not known to me, and the full card set aswell.
The story of Endless Wars (Heart of Darkness, Griffin's Bane, Sins of Betrayal) is generally the same story as of Heroes 6.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 05:20 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
@JJ, I won't argue about the origins of Succubus myth, but I already gave a quote from a man who "has seen a Succubus"; he and many others describe them as being very beautiful.
That's the thing - their true form may be frightening, but they will appear as sexy chick and seduce based on that. Or the victim will have a picture of said woman.
Can yu provide a link? Because I think that's nonsense.  Succubae couldn't actually be seen, obviously, since they appeared sleeping people (or made people sleep).
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 05:23 PM |
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And im talking about ashan sucubus so if you arent going to read dont address me.
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 05:34 PM |
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 10, 2015 05:39 PM |
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Ebon Knight and Death Knight both have Offence and Dark Magic, I wonder if that is on purpose.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted March 10, 2015 05:40 PM |
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Minion said:
Ebon Knight and Death Knight both have Offence and Dark Magic, I wonder if that is on purpose.
Ubi-Nox fixed it, it was a mistake.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted March 10, 2015 05:58 PM |
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supertommy said:
Necropolis Might Heroes
Nothing too surprising, but good to see them reveal Nwcro heroes. Besides that - these heroes have nice axes. 
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 10, 2015 06:00 PM |
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Those two look kind of ok, although a bit far from my taste. I do prefer much less armor, more rags. And I'm sure their magic heroes will also be pretty much armored with a cape only to look more magical and eerie - glowing here and there.
Also, abilities sound ok, still not detailed as usual, so I cannot decide whether I find those useful or not.
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