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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 12, 2015 11:45 PM |
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You... mean their opinion changed because of the info they got during the event...? 
Man, I wish I was there too. I'm an Ashan fan through and through, and yet there are some elements that keep pissing me off...  If there was some info that would clear some of these things up, it's a real shame I have no access to it.
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foxxxer
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted March 12, 2015 11:55 PM |
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Edited by foxxxer at 00:04, 13 Mar 2015.
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ThatRedSarah said:
My opinion is that they are one of the two:
1. Starting skills: yes they are same for both of them, but i think the actual skill tree will be significantly different depending on might/magic orientation. Same main skills, but they have different abilities in their branches. There even might be some abilities that are available for both but they appear in different parts or levels of the skill tree branches.
2. They are not starting skills (or maybe you get to choose one of them to start with) but your hero get some extra bonus added to the skill depending on hero level. But this only activates when after you actually obtain the skill in question. This seems feels pretty unlikely game mechanic, but it would "free more skill slots" if they werent chosen for you by default.
Anyways... i dont think the main skills are the only ones that you can develop to master level. That would severely limit the tactical options and sort of predetermine your skill choices. This would result in having almost similar heroes in very game...
There should be some explanation why they refer to those specific skills as main. I’d rather prefer them to be some kind of specialties that boost those skills but not starting ones. Because if the hero starts with 3 skills many problems would appear imo. As far as we know the level cap is 30 which means 30 level-up points. So I’ll try to play with some possible mechanics:
1) If the skills and perks share same pool of level-up points and each skill has 3 perks (H5 case), that means that you have to spend 6 points for fully developed skill (3 points up to Master level and +3 points for 3 perks). So that makes 5 fully developed skills + perks. If you have 3 predetermined skills, that’ll leave you only 2 available options to pick skills. I doubt that this is the case because it’s too restricting. Even if you don’t have 3 predetermined skills, it’s H5 case which I consider limited regarding the global development of your hero. Five skills are too less for my taste. Yeah, there are perks but they relate to a certain skill so the global picture is too narrow.
2) If the skills and perks don’t share same pool of level-up points and the perks are “for free” (as I mentioned several pages ago). Then you can develop 10 skills up to Master level so it really doesn’t matter if you have 3 predetermined skills. There’s a plenty room for development. Although there’s always a risk to end up with too similar heroes if there are no enough and balanced skills.
3) If the skills and perks share same pool of level-up points and there are no predetermined skills but with some specifics – you can develop only 3 skills up to Master level (+3 perks) and 3 skills up to Expert (+2 perks). Then we have 6 points per skill for Master level (+3 perks) and 4 points per skill for Expert level (2 for the skill and 2 for 2 perks). So the bottom line is 3*6 + 3*4 = 30. Still doesn’t explain the term “main skills” but there’s some logic.
I hope that Ubi will disclose the skill mechanics tomorrow because I have a bad feeling (gamebreaker) about the skills. I hope it will appear to be unjustified bad hunch but who knows… we’re talking about Ubi here 
ThatRedSarah said:
( Also, you have a pretty cool avatar picture!  )
Yeah, some naive cute fennec fox Soon I'll change it so you may borrow it 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 13, 2015 12:08 AM |
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Sligneris said:
You... mean their opinion changed because of the info they got during the event...?
Stevie is being brainwashed as we speak. Everything is going as planned.
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
Known Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 12:16 AM |
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Stop blaming Asha, everyone.
UBI USES ALL...
Edit:
@Stevie
Thanks. There is a better one, but it's too large and I was too lazy to shrink and post...
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To die in battle is the greatest glory.
To choose to do so is the greatest honor!
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 12:30 AM |
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EPICUSDOOMICUS said:
Stop blaming Asha, everyone.
UBI USES ALL...
Ubi eternal!
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 13, 2015 12:39 AM |
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EPICUSDOOMICUS said:
Stop blaming Asha, everyone.
UBI USES ALL...
Ubi doesn't use logic
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 12:53 AM |
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By the way, do you guys think it's going to be the first core Heroes game set in Ashan without Kha-Beleth in it?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 13, 2015 01:00 AM |
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I would pay triple price for a Heroes that looks like that.
And there you have new creatures, outstanding and gorgeous, in total onirism. I find it sad that some people praise what Ubi offers for h7, really, when you see what is possible with modern technology.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 13, 2015 01:02 AM |
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Gameplay >>>>> Graphics
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 13, 2015 01:03 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 01:04, 13 Mar 2015.
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They should be of same value, in my opinion.
How many times did I say that? This is getting tiresome.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 01:20 AM |
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These graphics don't exactly appeal to me to be honest - while the landscape does look amazing, creature stylistics are done in a style I don't particularly like - it reminds me how by now there are too many games that try to be "edgy" with its overly dark fantasy settings - it gets boring after a while.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 13, 2015 01:24 AM |
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Galaad said:
They should be of same value, in my opinion.
What you were asking for is way too much for a Heroes, that's why I said Gameplay it's more important (to a certain extend though, not absolutely).
Art style is another story, as we all know 
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 13, 2015 01:26 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
What you were asking for is way too much for a Heroes
I guess I got spoiled back in the days of Heroes II.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted March 13, 2015 01:33 AM |
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Elvin said:
Stevie is being brainwashed as we speak. Everything is going as planned.
I deeply resent your accusation! Erwin and his team would never brainwash any critic!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 01:48 AM |
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 13, 2015 01:55 AM |
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Farewell, Stevie. The cause of reason will miss you 
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Hunters11
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 13, 2015 02:42 AM |
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Faction and Magic Relationship
Faction preferred main magic
Haven: Light,Prime,Fire
Stronghold: Air,Prime,Light
Academy: Air,Prime,Earth
Sylvan: Earth,Prime,Water
Necropolis: Dark,Prime,Water
Dungeon: Dark,Prime,Fire
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Haven: Light,Prime,Fire
Sylvan: Earth,Prime,Light
Academy: Air,Prime,Earth
Stronghold: Air,Prime,Water
Necropolis: Dark,Prime,Water
Dungeon: Dark,Prime,Fire
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted March 13, 2015 03:03 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 03:19, 13 Mar 2015.
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Orcs don't like Light magic, it burns them.
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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Hunters11
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 13, 2015 03:33 AM |
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Heroes7 Orcs = Sahaar Desert Orcs
Minion said:
Orcs don't like Light magic, it burns them.
The Sahaar Desert is one of the most hostile regions of Ashan. Apart from the Wizards of the Silver Cities, who have used their magic powers to tame its blistering sands, the Sahaar is only populated by small tribes of nomadic Orcs
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 13, 2015 04:18 AM |
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Orcs focuse on Air and earth, but hate prime. Mages on prime, plus specialization in all school. Necros have a big part of prime aswell.
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
