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gourley4p
gourley4p


Adventuring Hero
posted May 14, 2015 03:15 AM

I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

Granted, I am not really sure why we got options as news today. I could understand it if they wrote at length about the ways to use the options to get the best performance out of the game given that so many people were alarmed by the system requirements. As they did not focus on that, I can only offer conjecture that it was an attempt to throw a bone to crowd that only wants blood.

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Kenishi
Kenishi


Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted May 14, 2015 08:40 AM
Edited by Kenishi at 08:41, 14 May 2015.

As an side note, funny jokes people, I don't see the option to choose random skill on or off in the menus I would have expected to see it in Gameplay tab ... or wasn't implemented yet but considering it's a picture how hard can it be to Photoshop it ... maybe it's an option you choose before launching the map and there for a different menu altogether.


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Dies_Irae
Dies_Irae


Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
posted May 14, 2015 09:14 AM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 09:16, 14 May 2015.

Kenishi said:
As an side note, funny jokes people, I don't see the option to choose random skill on or off in the menus I would have expected to see it in Gameplay tab ... or wasn't implemented yet but considering it's a picture how hard can it be to Photoshop it ... maybe it's an option you choose before launching the map and there for a different menu altogether.


According to Ubi-Nox on the SC, this feature will be added to the/a "Game creation menu". Maybe that will be part of Gameplay, or a seperate tab. The 'work in progress' banner actually covers a possible tab space as you can see in the pictures, so maybe that part is reserved for this purpose.

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Sempai said:
Next article on SC revealed:


etc.


for creativity. Of course, my soul already belongs to the Great Erwan, my money has supported Ubi and I eagerly await the arrival of the Beta, but the things you posted here still made me smile. Of course I don't agree and I do not share your vision, but at least you found a creative way of expressing your discontent. This is of course way, way better than the crap people dump at the SC with CAPS LOCK SHOUTING, insult and harassment.

Also, your screen says that there is no way to exit the screen, but there is nothing guarding the little red X-button on the top right of it :3. Shouldn't you put a spider up there to prevent anyone from clicking said button in an attempt to close the install wizard?

Now that we are at it, shouldn't there be a seperate "Bash Heroes 7/Ubisoft here" topic, so we can keep the discussion thread clear of these side-jokes?
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Avonu
Avonu


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted May 14, 2015 09:19 AM

gourley4p said:
I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.
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Dies_Irae
Dies_Irae


Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
posted May 14, 2015 09:23 AM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 09:25, 14 May 2015.

Avonu said:
gourley4p said:
I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.


I am under the impression that some of that bashing is just for the sake of it. No matter what the article is about, skills or more practical information, people hate on it because....Because. Somehow their morale has dropped below zero and everything that leaves Dev Avenue is automatically disliked because previous information was also considered unsatisfactory. That's a kind of black/white vision, really. Some features may not be as good as others, but it may help to see the good things as well. Now people are only focusing on what's bad, without taking into account the things that may very well be of good use in the game.

It turned into something like "I hate it because I hate it". It becomes a vicious circle.
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Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted May 14, 2015 10:07 AM

Some people translate warranted criticism into bashing.

Nothing new under the sun.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


Famous Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted May 14, 2015 10:28 AM
Edited by Kenishi at 10:29, 14 May 2015.

Stevie said:
Some people translate warranted criticism into bashing.

Nothing new under the sun.


  Criticism is welcomed as long is constructive like for me the whole color scheme is brow reddish which could present some issue to color blind people I would hope it can be changed somehow also I dislike it and would hope I don't have to "live with it" and have an option to change it.
  So far so good but coming and saying that this color scheme is once again chosen for the taste of Erwan and probably the great overlord is to blame for it is not criticism is bashing, and I feel is a bit tedious when vast majority of posts go this direction.  
 Take this as an example not a concrete mater but it can be applied to a lot of older post.
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Sempai
Sempai


Known Hero
Ubi is love
posted May 14, 2015 10:36 AM
Edited by Sempai at 11:18, 14 May 2015.

Hey, hey, guys, relax. Caricature is a pure sarcasm and irony, I don't bash them. Just consider explanations like: "Music: Set volume for music" as silly in the last article. So was trying to make fun of it.

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than the crap people dump at the SC with CAPS LOCK SHOUTING, insult and harassment.


Well, dude, I tried it with CAPS LOCK SHOUTING on SC after weeks of correct criticism but both ways didn't work lol.
So I'm just relaxed and having fun. And in case if I wanted to bash them, I see no problems with that since they have shown total disrespect by ignoring us at all. This stuff I don't respect. As I've said many times, they could answer with any stuff, even negative, but ignoring is such a bad thing especially when you are claiming that you develop the game with the community lol.

Kenishi said:
As an side note, funny jokes people, I don't see the option to choose random skill on or off in the menus I would have expected to see it in Gameplay tab



Random option will be on a game creation screen.

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted May 14, 2015 11:24 AM

Dies_Irae said:
Avonu said:
gourley4p said:
I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.

It turned into something like "I hate it because I hate it". It becomes a vicious circle.

Which is exactly why I come here less and less.
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ninjata12
ninjata12


Adventuring Hero
posted May 14, 2015 11:48 AM

There are like 5 people bashing, but they are really vocal and persistant. It's like they try to convince us how much they hate Ubisoft and the game...

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Hermes
Hermes


Famous Hero
posted May 14, 2015 11:55 AM

ninjata12 said:
There are like 5 people bashing, but they are really vocal and persistant. It's like they try to convince us how much they hate Ubisoft and the game...


You might join them too one day lol

It is a 'sheep behaviour' people like to be in the 'herd'. Exactly why Sandro movement happened. Most people in it had no clue about the game. Just trying to belong. Conformism.

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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 14, 2015 12:01 PM

Avonu said:
gourley4p said:
I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.

THIS and I'm also tired of th other side of the coin
Dies_Irae said:
(...)skills or more practical information, people love it because....Because. Somehow their morale has raised above one hundred and everything that leaves Dev Avenue is automatically liked because previous information was also considered satisfactory. That's a kind of black/white vision, really.

Fixed, it really is black AND white

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Sempai
Sempai


Known Hero
Ubi is love
posted May 14, 2015 12:03 PM
Edited by Sempai at 12:16, 14 May 2015.

ninjata12 said:
5 people bashing


Ahhahhahaha

I see counting problems is a common issue for ubi-lovers

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Most people in it had no clue about the game. Just trying to belong. Conformism.


Do you have some statistics or just talky-talk?

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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted May 14, 2015 12:04 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 12:05, 14 May 2015.

Minastir said:
Avonu said:
You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.
THIS and I'm also tired of th other side of the coin
I agree.

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Sligneris
Sligneris


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2015 12:18 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 13:08, 14 May 2015.

Ehh, this again? It's so silly, I shouldn't be even trying by now. 'Warranted criticism', lol.

Sempai said:
I see no problems with that since they have shown total disrespect by ignoring us at all. This stuff I don't respect. As I've said many times, they could answer with any stuff, even negative,

They couldn't, actually - reactions to the skillwheel design philosophy article are proof of that. It's an insult to disagree with you. It's arrogant of them to say they don't share your beliefs.

There's nothing wrong with ignoring people who impose their will on others and won't take 'no' as an answer.

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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted May 14, 2015 01:07 PM
Edited by kiryu133 at 13:17, 14 May 2015.

i dunno. i call out whatever is bullsnow (the skillsystem is not something that is deserving of hate, mind) and praise when appropriate. there's just been so little to praise lately

Sligneris said:
Ehh, this again? It's so silly, I shouldn't be even trying by now. 'Warranted criticism', lol.


The bashing of game play mechanics just gets silly However there is a lot of criticism that is more than warranted. everything around the skill system (not worthy of this much bashing, guys. cut it off) did bring out what a huge lie the shadow council actually was and rage about that is very justified. Rage against the skill system is harder to justify.

Keep in mind that Criticism should never stop. Criticism is good and necessary but a lot of what is going on is not criticism. it's just raging about changing game mechanics. Not worthy of getting your panties in a bunch.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 14, 2015 01:15 PM

To be fair

Avonu said:
You are not only one who is tired of constant Ubi/Erwan bashing, no matter about what news is today.

To be fair a consequent amount of people are being tired of constant failures from Ubi/Ashan-Heroes since the last ten years.

Kenishi said:
Criticism is welcomed as long is constructive

To be fair constructive criticism is not welcomed by Ubi nor its defenders, but rather being ignored years after years. At least it is a pretty strong impression I have.

War-overlord said:
Which is exactly why I come here less and less.

To be fair at least 90% of people from H3 don’t even visit this section, and keep creating their mods in their corner. Soon people from H5 will be chased the same way because they will eventually grow tired of being demonized.

Hermes said:
Exactly why Sandro movement happened

To be fair I saw no one complaining about the Sandro movement nor caps locks shouting when it was about replacing h6 assets for Arachnopolis.

Cleglaw said:
heroes title should have ended with 4. [...] i really dont understand the point of making 7th game, just name it something else, and do whatever you want with it...

I agree with this very much. People wouldn’t be able to say Heroes is not Heroes anymore if it was named something else (as it should be?). But Ubi would have to drop the rights for that, and I don’t see that happening, because they are still making money from it.

gourley4p said:
At any rate, I hope that we all can unite as fans of the series rather than continuing pointless bickering.

gourley4p said:
I almost hate when news posts because the forums I like to visit turn into a contest of one-upmanship to see who hate on the game the hardest.

lol

Minastir said:
I'm also tired of th other side of the coin

That’s the thing. The “other side of the coin” keeps repeating they are tired of people voicing their discontentment about the game, yet they keep baiting everyone with biased statements in an attempt to condemn their opinions.

Erwan leBreton said:
This game is made for the fans and with them.

I don’t think I even need to explain anymore why this is not true.
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Sligneris
Sligneris


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2015 01:16 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 13:23, 14 May 2015.

It's impossible to have a clear, objective judgement after being influenced by this community, I think. I believe that at this point literally the only ones capable of judging the game fairly are people who didn't have any contact with this fanbase - a type of fan I certainly wish I could be, as this community definitely left a stain on my experience with Might & Magic.

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kiryu133
kiryu133


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted May 14, 2015 01:22 PM
Edited by kiryu133 at 13:23, 14 May 2015.

Sligneris said:
It's impossible to have a clear, objective judgement after being influenced by this community, I think.


That's a contradiction by its very nature. "Objective judgement" is an impossibility, especially when it comes to criticism and fanbases.

EDIT: objectivity is an impossibility when it comes to games, period.
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Sligneris
Sligneris


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2015 01:24 PM

Individual judgement then. I'm just sick of this herd mentality.

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