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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 01, 2015 09:23 PM |
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druid angry face is best face
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:25 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 21:26, 01 Jul 2015.
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Sorry but I really had to do it
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Findan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:30 PM |
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Edited by Findan at 21:34, 01 Jul 2015.
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So what ChrisD1? Instead of improoving and polishing excellent concepts it is better to draw rape guys, angry PMS lady and bambi? Where is your logic in that? Poop instead of diamond seems great for you? Have you hit your head? Everyone knows the description. What's the point then? Expecting something worse? The picture you posted is the image of people I have in my head when i read posts like yours.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted July 01, 2015 09:34 PM |
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Findan said: So what ChrisD1? Instead of improoving and polishing excellent concepts it is better to draw rape guys, angry PMS lady and bambi? Where is your logic in that? Poop instead of diamond seems great for you? Have you hit your head? The picture you posted is the image of people I have in my head when i read posts like yours.
Agreed. Some people based their votes solely on design. Does not matter if it is not the final product, people expected something like that, not to be ditched away for something new.
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:34 PM |
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Well i dont really think that the concept arts were better, but its a very big change. that should not happen even if they said its not actual in game model/artwork. some of the units are totaly different.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 01, 2015 09:41 PM |
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The only big change was sprite. Otherwise their concepts got either acceptable (blade dancer) or more combat-oriented (druid). Nothing got worse so i don't see the problem. quite the contrary, they all (excepting maybe the pixie but it's still great) got way better. Especially the dancer. We got a complete jackpot with him .
...disregarding that it's still a blade dancer of course, but you can't win everything .
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:42 PM |
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Findan said: So what ChrisD1? Instead of improoving and polishing excellent concepts it is better to draw rape guys, angry PMS lady and bambi? Where is your logic in that? Poop instead of diamond seems great for you? Have you hit your head? Everyone knows the description. What's the point then? Expecting something worse? The picture you posted is the image of people I have in my head when i read posts like yours.
Agreed. Sure they were not final, but when 99% of the comments about the blade dancer concept art was that it was absolutely great, then what is the point in changing it so much? Now, I do find the in game models much better than the concept art and the icon in the Ui can easily be modded to use one of the edited arts.
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:39 PM |
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Edited by Minastir at 22:40, 01 Jul 2015.
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Nothing really new but namtaru really is necropolis warfare just like it was in beta files becasue there is namtaru icon on mmh7 site:
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:48 PM |
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Booby spiders ?
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adriancat
Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
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posted July 01, 2015 11:11 PM |
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Findan said: Sorry but I really had to do it:
Sorry, but if I remember correctly, the majority of the fans voted for Warcraft Night Elf Townscreen. Thus, the actual townscreen is an obvious consequence
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 11:26 PM |
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Edited by alexine at 23:51, 01 Jul 2015.
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In that case :
(sorry Findan, I know its too awesome )
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Haregar
Famous Hero
of destruction
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posted July 01, 2015 11:27 PM |
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It's been a while.
Galaad said:
Haregar said: does it have "that-old-Heroes" feel?
No.
Hmm... I heard it has some good mixes of old elements (that returned, but mostly are based on HoMM V ones) and new ones; some features were also described in an oppinion I read as being good, like ability to control terrain.
I don't like this pizza-skill thingy... I will leave without a comment that Bambi-like unit or evolving from doe to deer...
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Findan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 12:16 AM |
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Edited by Findan at 00:21, 02 Jul 2015.
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adriancat said:
Sorry, but if I remember correctly, the majority of the fans voted for Warcraft Night Elf Townscreen. Thus, the actual townscreen is an obvious consequence
The idea of night has nothing to do with maturity and quality of the image. It's not the idea here but artistic skill that determines art.
Just look at Alexine post :-)
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Hotarubi
Known Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 01:59 AM |
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Findan said: Sorry but I really had to do it:
I hate to say it but I actually agree with this.
The only comparison I disagree with is the Sprite's models. I think they both have their good and bad points, but ultimately, I'd go with the H7 model. Conceptually, the H6 model looks more offensive and hence, more in line to fit in the Fury lineup. But the H7 model is a bit more creative and vibrant. For once, a non-green creature in the faction.
The H6/H7 concept artworks for the Dancer, Druidess, and the town are simply too beautiful. It's a minor shame we're getting what we're getting, but I'm still willing to love Sylvan as much as I have loved its previous incarnations. *crosses fingers for voting options in the future for model reworks LOL*
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted July 02, 2015 02:10 AM |
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ChrisD1 said: I hated the idea of the black dragon in heroes 6. I wanted the faceless as a champion. But loud nostalgia fans won again! I hope they enjoyed their blackie hahahahah!
Really? Where was your lineup? I don't recall being given the option for a Faceless champion.
We did not "win", every lineup had the dragon, so keep your holier than thou gloating to yourself.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 03:00 AM |
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 04:17 AM |
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Raenus said:
ChrisD1 said: I hated the idea of the black dragon in heroes 6. I wanted the faceless as a champion. But loud nostalgia fans won again! I hope they enjoyed their blackie hahahahah!
Really? Where was your lineup? I don't recall being given the option for a Faceless champion.
We did not "win", every lineup had the dragon, so keep your holier than thou gloating to yourself.
Chris meant Heroes 6 expansion which added Dungeon. Even though Faceless would fit better as a champion, all the "bring back the dragons" complaints voiced on the forums obviously forced their hand.
Although I quite like the dragon to be honest.
Now to the Sylvan reveal. Most of the models look better than the arts. I especially liked Pixie - looks very magical, Blademasters animations are badass, Treants are just great all around. Moon doe is a little disappointing - especially considering it has no abilities and just kicks enemies. Sorry I find it kinda hard to believe Rakshassa bing trampled to death by the Does.
Emerald dragon indeed looks worse than Green. It needs to be bulkier not skinnier.
Dryads are alright but I would prefer root snake in their stead, although their abilities are intersting.
Quite like the Druid - and while two abilities to use per combat - really surprising!
Anyway I hope to see them in the next 3 weeks or so in the Beta.
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Raenus
Famous Hero
Grouchy curmudgeon
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posted July 02, 2015 06:18 AM |
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Edited by Raenus at 07:02, 02 Jul 2015.
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Hermes said:
Raenus said:
ChrisD1 said: I hated the idea of the black dragon in heroes 6. I wanted the faceless as a champion. But loud nostalgia fans won again! I hope they enjoyed their blackie hahahahah!
Really? Where was your lineup? I don't recall being given the option for a Faceless champion.
We did not "win", every lineup had the dragon, so keep your holier than thou gloating to yourself.
Chris meant Heroes 6 expansion which added Dungeon. Even though Faceless would fit better as a champion, all the "bring back the dragons" complaints voiced on the forums obviously forced their hand.
Although I quite like the dragon to be honest.
Ah, I was unaware of that. My whole previous post was a bit over the top and I am sorry about that Chris.
A champion faceless is something I would be fine with, I think it fits their lore much better than being relegated to elite tier.
I am glad that you like the design of the dragon Hermes, that is the first time I have read anything positive about it. I personally am rather ambivalent towards it.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 06:45 AM |
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Yes, I still remember the time when Ubisoft stance on dragons was pretty straight forward - no dragon creatures, ever - dragons are gods. And faceless champions actually made a lot of sense since they are supposed to be extremely rare.
Shadow dragons in Heroes 6 were pretty terrible - giant purple butterflies , but blackies are quite intimidating and unique in their appearance.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 06:59 AM |
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Hermes said: Yes, I still remember the time when Ubisoft stance on dragons was pretty straight forward - no dragon creatures, ever - dragons are gods. And faceless champions actually made a lot of sense since they are supposed to be extremely rare.
Mistake #1: Making that stance on dragons in the first place.
Mistake #2: Not making Faceless as champions during the roster vote.
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