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verriker
verriker


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posted July 16, 2015 09:26 PM

dark-whisperer said:
From blog:
"Enemy brothers sharing a bitter history, they will show no mercy to each other…"

With that in mind I don't think that's hydra monologue on the picture, its more like faction's philosophy towards one another.


I dunno man I'm pretty sure the image of the hydra implies it's a quote of the hydra, just like in this image where the character of Gandalf is seen behind the famous quote he uttered to Harry


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articun
articun


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posted July 16, 2015 09:47 PM

dark-whisperer said:
From blog:
"Enemy brothers sharing a bitter history, they will show no mercy to each other…"

With that in mind I don't think that's hydra monologue on the picture, its more like faction's philosophy towards one another.


Verriker is just being himself

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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


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Maths, maths everywhere!
posted July 16, 2015 10:05 PM
Edited by Pawek_13 at 22:14, 16 Jul 2015.

kiryu133 said:
Seeing forward is very important to any large predator like the hydra while eyes to the side are especially unnecessary since they shouldn't have to watch out for predators themselves and is even weirder since the large amount of heads should do that anyway.

god, this annoys me way more than it should

This is important as it allows for 3D vision. Placement of eyes like in human beings allows to determine the distance between a prey and a predator and hence to make a decision whether to attack or not. In case of Heroes 7's Hydras it is more or leass right, as it resembles position of eyes among snakes (a cobra's head for example) but the only problem is that their eyes aren't convex enough.

Speaking of colouring - black snakes do exist, there is even one with blue eyes (see here). Colours of this hydra are dark, which gives them advantage in lightless environment of caves. Dark blue vivid elements would make sense if Hydras had some ability connected to poison/venom, as vibrant colours very often mean in nature: "Don't touch me or you'll get poisoned." Most caves are dark but since in Ashanese caves there are many sources of (violet ) light, such marks can be spotted and will prove to be useful.

Everything would be sensible but the glowy eyes break it all. If someone would remove them or change their colour to black, I would be satisfied. It seems that Ubilimb devs have high affinity to glowy eyes.

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Gryphs
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posted July 16, 2015 10:11 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 22:31, 16 Jul 2015.

Pawek_13 said:
but the only problem is that their eyes aren't convex enough.
It's not just that; their eyes are blocked by the growth of their head shell.
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kiryu133
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posted July 16, 2015 10:17 PM

I can only imagine it as having a cap with the screen pointing down.
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Pawek_13
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Maths, maths everywhere!
posted July 16, 2015 10:37 PM
Edited by Pawek_13 at 22:58, 16 Jul 2015.

kiryu133 said:
I can only imagine it as having a cap with the screen pointing down.

Something like this?

PS. Regarding this video - nothing too spectacular, a girl.from Limbic seemed very stressed and didn't say anything too spectacular but we have confirmation that Treants are shooters. At least that's good. Sadly, no acorn-spitting.

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LizardWarrior
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posted July 16, 2015 10:47 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:47, 16 Jul 2015.

So... we got:

-disastrous skill pizza
-very unbalanced perks
-very little spells and too many magic schools
-boring and repetitive heroes specialties
-limited skill choices and copy-cat hero classes
-terrible townscreens
-restrictive town leveling and every building is dirt cheap
-everything is too zoomed out
-75% of the battlefield are only out-field decorations and units look like ants
-boring creature abilities
-a broken flanking system
-over(re)used models
-high requirements for not so outstanding graphics
-spiderpolis
-bugs (including spiders ^^)
-etc.

yeah, hydra looking like alien is the biggest flaw h7 got

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ChrisD1
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posted July 16, 2015 10:50 PM

LizardWarrior said:
So... we got:

-disastrous skill pizza
-very unbalanced perks
-very little spells and too many magic schools
-boring and repetitive heroes specialties
-limited skill choices and copy-cat hero classes
-terrible townscreens
-restrictive town leveling and every building is dirt cheap
-everything is too zoomed out
-75% of the battlefield are only out-field decorations and units look like ants
-boring creature abilities
-a broken flanking system
-over(re)used models
-high requirements for not so outstanding graphics
-spiderpolis
-bugs (including spiders ^^)
-etc.

yeah, hydra looking like alien is the biggest flaw h7 got

i agree with all of these except spiderpolis.
damn when put together like this it's sad but hope remains for the gameplay aspects
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Gryphs
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posted July 16, 2015 10:51 PM

LizardWarrior said:
-bugs (including spiders ^^)
But spiders are arachnids.
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LizardWarrior
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posted July 16, 2015 10:55 PM

Doesn't "bug" refer to any non-aquatic arthropod?

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Gryphs
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posted July 16, 2015 10:56 PM

Scientifically no, that is an insect.
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EnergyZ
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posted July 16, 2015 11:05 PM

ChrisD1 said:
LizardWarrior said:
So... we got:

-disastrous skill pizza
-very unbalanced perks
-very little spells and too many magic schools
-boring and repetitive heroes specialties
-limited skill choices and copy-cat hero classes
-terrible townscreens
-restrictive town leveling and every building is dirt cheap
-everything is too zoomed out
-75% of the battlefield are only out-field decorations and units look like ants
-boring creature abilities
-a broken flanking system
-over(re)used models
-high requirements for not so outstanding graphics
-spiderpolis
-bugs (including spiders ^^)
-etc.

yeah, hydra looking like alien is the biggest flaw h7 got

i agree with all of these except spiderpolis.
damn when put together like this it's sad but hope remains for the gameplay aspects


Spiderpolis... despite my personal preferences, it would be good if it was unique in the whole faction. Meaning we would only have spider banners, not actual spiders nor spider tattoos.

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LizardWarrior
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posted July 16, 2015 11:11 PM

Gryphs said:
Scientifically no, that is an insect.


nope, insects are a sub-class of arthropods, along with arachnids, crustaceans and such

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kiryu133
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posted July 16, 2015 11:17 PM

where does land-living crabs fit in?
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alexine
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posted July 16, 2015 11:22 PM
Edited by alexine at 23:24, 16 Jul 2015.

LizardWarrior said:
So... we got:

-disastrous skill pizza
-very unbalanced perks
-very little spells and too many magic schools
-boring and repetitive heroes specialties
-limited skill choices and copy-cat hero classes
-terrible townscreens
-restrictive town leveling and every building is dirt cheap
-everything is too zoomed out
-75% of the battlefield are only out-field decorations and units look like ants
-boring creature abilities
-a broken flanking system
-over(re)used models
-high requirements for not so outstanding graphics
-spiderpolis
-bugs (including spiders ^^)
-etc.

yeah, hydra looking like alien is the biggest flaw h7 got


Oh man, after reading this list I am asking my self what am I still doing here Not so excited about this game anymore.. but you guys grew on me, your posts are nice and makes sense, sometimes constructive, sometimes joke, nice balance I just like to read here
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Gryphs
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posted July 16, 2015 11:28 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 23:56, 16 Jul 2015.

LizardWarrior said:
nope, insects are a sub-class of arthropods, along with arachnids, crustaceans and such
But that does not change that they are not bugs as bugs are insects; therefore, spiders are not bugs.

kiryu133 said:
where does land-living crabs fit in?
They are crustaceans like most crabs.
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Storm-Giant
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posted July 16, 2015 11:36 PM

Gryphs said:
You are still annoyed by Ashan unit design I thought after all the reveals we would have expected this.

Expecting to be awful doesn't make it any less painful :[
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EnergyZ
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posted July 16, 2015 11:50 PM

Pawek_13 said:
Regarding this video - nothing too spectacular, a girl.from Limbic seemed very stressed and didn't say anything too spectacular but we have confirmation that Treants are shooters. At least that's good. Sadly, no acorn-spitting.


Treants? Shooters? Of what? I don't even get why did they put those abilities if it is going to shoot. It does not make sense... at all.

I can understand by making Sylvan a shooter faction (even if we have Academy for that). Just that if they *had* to bring in a Champion as a shooter, they could've brought in sharpshooter (or arcane archer).

Even more OUTRAGING is the FACT that it was not written that treant will be a ranged unit. Hunter and druid, yes, but no word about treant. *spits*

And I don't want any sentences how "it was work in progress* or how *the creature may look different in the game* or somesuch. Treant was in all line-ups, but I can't make tails nor heads why would they be shooters with such melee abilities.

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dark-whisperer
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posted July 16, 2015 11:50 PM
Edited by dark-whisperer at 23:53, 16 Jul 2015.

Only units with design problems are Necro ones. Rest are very good.

*edit*
For Verriker


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EnergyZ
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posted July 16, 2015 11:53 PM

dark-whisperer said:
Only units with design problems are Necro ones. Rest are very good.


Even the... emerald dragon?

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