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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted July 24, 2015 09:22 AM |
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Edited by Marzhin at 09:25, 24 Jul 2015.
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Avonu said:
That wasn't the problem with Heroes Online and MMX, which both used H5 models (Treants and Dwarves for example). MMX also used models from Dark Messiah.
We did, and trust me, it was enough to realize just how nightmarish it was to mix assets from different sources, with different bone structures, different animation rigs, and different formats 
edit: also, it's worth noting that while some of the HoF and TotE assets don't look too bad nowadays, the 3D models of H5 vanilla look very crude and blocky for a 2015 game.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted July 24, 2015 09:23 AM |
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Marzhin said:
Too much work on my secret project.
#ShamelessTeasing
That sounds like either Sandro or Jorgen! Which is it? 
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted July 24, 2015 09:24 AM |
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Hi Layn, welcome to the community. I guess it must be equally entertaining and aggravating to see all us wise-asses here who are waiting in line to point out all the things we feel you did wrong with the game, but thank you for taking the time to answer some of our questions.
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted July 24, 2015 09:27 AM |
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Maurice said:
Marzhin said:
Too much work on my secret project.
#ShamelessTeasing
That sounds like either Sandro or Jorgen! Which is it?
You'll have all the answer before the end of August, unless an asteroid falls on me or something 
Until then, I'm not saying anything else 
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 09:27 AM |
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Layn said:
*shrug* i have no idea. But I am super curious what you all think about the faction.
Anyone going to be at Gamescom? Most of my coworkers will be busy working on heroes 7, but i'll be around the halls on the 5. (wednesday)
Im really looking forward to seeing Dungeon. Its my favorite... Can you reveal your own personal opinion on them? Do you like H7 Dungeon? Are the Troglodytes super awesome like in H3? 
Have fun in Gamescon (on wednesday)
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 10:13 AM |
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PandaTar said:
Just be sure not to color code these units purple or anything, or people will rage like a storm. ^^
I don't care how they colour it (purple is no issue for me, as it's my second-favourite colour) - I just want the assassins to not be flamboyantly adorned in feathers.
*shudder*
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted July 24, 2015 10:19 AM |
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Edited by Avonu at 10:21, 24 Jul 2015.
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Layn said:
But I am super curious what you all think about the faction.
Let me try to guess typical reactions:
- It sucks!
- It's too/not enough purple!
- Basic unit looks much better then upgraded (and should be it)!
- Medusa is reused H6 Coral Priestess model!
- Black Dragon is reused H6 model!
- Town Screen doesn't have civilian dwellings (add here more complains about TS in general)!
- Ashan sucks! Bring back Enroth and NWC!
- lol
Marzhin said:
You'll have all the answer before the end of August, unless an asteroid falls on me or something
Until then, I'm not saying anything else
You can always sing or just write it. 
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted July 24, 2015 10:23 AM |
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Avonu said:
Layn said:
But I am super curious what you all think about the faction.
Let me try to guess typical reactions:
- It sucks!
- It's too/not enough purple!
- Basic unit looks much better then upgraded (and should be it)!
- Medusa is reused H6 Coral Priestess model!
- Black Dragon is reused H6 model!
- Town Screen doesn't have civilian dwellings (add here more complains about TS in general)!
- Ashan sucks! Bring back Enroth and NWC!
- lol
I think that's a pretty good prognostic, actually
Although at the very least we did our best to cut down the purple as much as possible, even on creatures that are reused from H6.
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Layn
Shaper of Lore
Technical Artist, Limbic Ent.
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posted July 24, 2015 10:33 AM |
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Edited by Layn at 10:38, 24 Jul 2015.
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Marzhin said:
Sadly I won't be at Gamescom either this year. Too much work on my secret project.
#ShamelessTeasing
Is it the cool thing you mentioned a few weeks ago? Looking forward to that
Marzhin said:
We did, and trust me, it was enough to realize just how nightmarish it was to mix assets from different sources, with different bone structures, different animation rigs, and different formats
I am so glad for that!
alcibiades said:
Hi Layn, welcome to the community. I guess it must be equally entertaining and aggravating to see all us wise-asses here who are waiting in line to point out all the things we feel you did wrong with the game, but thank you for taking the time to answer some of our questions.
It's so damned fascinating. I mean, of course when you dislike something it's quite a blow and a bit demoralizing. But it's also so interesting sending what you made out in the world and see what reactions it gets. Will it be something expected, or something you didn't predict at all? Will it be something i thought myself, or will it be a wholly new perspective you didn't even think of?
ThatRedSarah said:
Im really looking forward to seeing Dungeon. Its my favorite... Can you reveal your own personal opinion on them? Do you like H7 Dungeon? Are the Troglodytes super awesome like in H3?
Have fun in Gamescon (on wednesday)
Thanks
I do like our Dungeon. I think most of my complaints about them come from a developer side ("URGH artist! Why did you do that? It just makes my work harder! Multiple heads? You know the extra work that causes me? URRGH" ). They have a cool look about them.
I do really like the troglodytes. I was worrying they'd end up really silly, but the artist made something i find pretty cool.
Marzhin said:
I think that's a pretty good prognostic, actually
Although at the very least we did our best to cut down the purple as much as possible, even on creatures that are reused from H6.
that's true. Sometimes i open H6 to take a look on how they did the VFX and ... wow. purple. so purple.
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 10:53 AM |
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Layn said:
I do like our Dungeon. I think most of my complaints about them come from a developer side ("URGH artist! Why did you do that? It just makes my work harder! Multiple heads? You know the extra work that causes me? URRGH" ). They have a cool look about them.
I do really like the troglodytes. I was worrying they'd end up really silly, but the artist made something i find pretty cool.
That is nice to hear! I have been on the edge of my seat waiting to see the line up for ages. Just my luck that Dungeon is the last faction to be revealed
Now i have even higher hopes for troglodytes! Loved those guys in H3
What worries me the most is the new unit... i dont remember the name but i think it was some shadow/armor/insect thingy... all bugs are yuck!  I miss Manticore :/
EDIT: OH and what is your favorite faction by the way??
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 10:58 AM |
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You mean Strider/Soulless, I guess. Tall, gaunt with insectoid appearence. I'm also curious how it will end up.
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted July 24, 2015 11:04 AM |
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Hex said:
You mean Strider/Soulless, I guess. Tall, gaunt with insectoid appearence. I'm also curious how it will end up.
"Almost insectile" appearance. Not exactly the same thing
In the end (after several round of sketches and research going in different directions), the "insectile" part has been downplayed a lot (as it seemed to rub the community the wrong way).
It doesn't look like a bug at all, but there's still something disjointed, disturbing when it moves that can remind of insects.
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 11:04 AM |
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Hex said:
You mean Strider/Soulless, I guess. Tall, gaunt with insectoid appearence. I'm also curious how it will end up.
Yes thats him! But im not sure if im curious... more like scared
Hex... hmmm... you are the guy with the smiley face avatar before that gargoyle one?
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 11:10 AM |
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Marzhin said:
"Almost insectile" appearance. Not exactly the same thing
In the end (after several round of sketches and research going in different directions), the "insectile" part has been downplayed a lot (as it seemed to rub the community the wrong way).
It doesn't look like a bug at all, but there's still something disjointed, disturbing when it moves that can remind of insects.
Im torn between happiness and disgust Heavily downplayed insectile features: yay! disjointed and disturbing movement: that is something straight out of my nightmares! Yikes! *shivering*
What is your favorite faction Marzhin?
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Marzhin
Shaper of Lore
Designer & Writer, Ubisoft
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posted July 24, 2015 11:16 AM |
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ThatRedSarah said:
Marzhin said:
"Almost insectile" appearance. Not exactly the same thing
In the end (after several round of sketches and research going in different directions), the "insectile" part has been downplayed a lot (as it seemed to rub the community the wrong way).
It doesn't look like a bug at all, but there's still something disjointed, disturbing when it moves that can remind of insects.
Im torn between happiness and disgust Heavily downplayed insectile features: yay! disjointed and disturbing movement: that is something straight out of my nightmares! Yikes! *shivering*
What is your favorite faction Marzhin?
I don't have one favourite. Usually I play Academy, Dungeon, Sylvan or Stronghold. The ones I play less are Haven and Necropolis, but I can't say it's because I dislike them, just that I like them a little less. The one I always disliked however, even back in H3, is Inferno.
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 11:22 AM |
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Yeah not sure if insect fits in Dungeon.. but Im still hoping to see a Hive faction or something similiar, full of disgusting abominatinos and insects
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We´re beautiful like diamonds in the sky ...
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 24, 2015 11:26 AM |
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Marzhin said:
In the end (after several round of sketches and research going in different directions), the "insectile" part has been downplayed a lot (as it seemed to rub the community the wrong way).
aw 
Marzhin said:
It doesn't look like a bug at all, but there's still something disjointed, disturbing when it moves that can remind of insects.
Oh! 
Avonu said:
- Basic unit looks much better then upgraded (and should be it)!
- Black Dragon is reused H6 model!
- Town Screen doesn't have civilian dwellings (add here more complains about TS in general)!
That's what you're gonna hear from me, except for the TS. I've already said my piece on that
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 11:27 AM |
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alexine said:
Hive faction or something similiar, full of disgusting abominatinos and insects
Hahaha! Alexine! NO! That it is not what we want at all...
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Hex
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2015 11:39 AM |
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Edited by Hex at 11:40, 24 Jul 2015.
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ThatRedSarah said:
Yes thats him! But im not sure if im curious... more like scared
Hex... hmmm... you are the guy with the smiley face avatar before that gargoyle one?
Yes, it's me. 
So, I guess, tall and gaunt features remains intact?
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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted July 24, 2015 11:45 AM |
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Edited by articun at 11:46, 24 Jul 2015.
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alexine said:
Yeah not sure if insect fits in Dungeon.. but Im still hoping to see a Hive faction or something similiar, full of disgusting abominatinos and insects
I disagree! Insectoids do fit Dungeon. If you think about it, where else will you find insect predators able to grow big enough if not in caves and ancient tunnels? Centipedes, Scarabs and the likes can evolve without predators and thus become the primary predator. The lack of light also helps them. Even bats and snakes tend to nest closer to the entrances rather than deep down
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