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War-overlord
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posted November 03, 2014 10:51 AM |
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Stevie said:
Are we really debating why they're called Faceless? Come on people.
No, only Avirosb is. The rest of us don't have a problem with it.
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Minion
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posted November 03, 2014 11:05 AM |
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Nah it's just Avirosb going on and on about it  At least he is funny though.
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Stevie
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posted November 03, 2014 11:05 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 11:06, 03 Nov 2014.
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I'm far more concerned about the vote. I can't decide between Blade and Faces, although I've voted Faces for now. I just feel that I want Medusa back so much, but it comes at such a great cost, like that Strider construct and not so many fliers. In Blade I really appreciate the tactical approach and Nightmares and Faceless, but Faceless are Elite instead of Champions, and too repetitive abilities.
To me it all boils down to which compromise I can accept better, which ratio of what I get for what I lose suits my interests.
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Caracal
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posted November 03, 2014 11:16 AM |
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Edited by Caracal at 11:33, 03 Nov 2014.
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I changed from blades to shield atm and Faces is what I would like to see gone. I have no love for medusa nor trogs. Btw I rofled hard at the "wingfolk" xD. About that debate few posts ago regarding sex changing in the case of the deer. Personally I have NEVER assumed upgrades to be the same units. I mean how on earth do U expect green dragon turn golden?? or Centaurs turning WHITE when U upgrade them to Centaur Captains?? Red/Shadow dragons changing scales to black ?? What kind of nonsense is that? Manticore and Scorpicore?? That's TWO different creatures. Hell Hounds growing two extra heads to become Cerberi? I don't get HOW on earth coud U think they are the same creatures xD.
The way I always saw it is that upgraded buildings give U access to creatures of higher rank/more powerful of the specific FAMILY or GROUP of creatures (similar in appearance but not quite the same species). If You can afford to build simple buiilding no elite creature would be found there so You will be getting only mediocre units. When U upgrade the building suddenly U can hire elite specimens of the given group.I'ts like getting leopard and tiger. Two belong the the cat family but by no means U can upgrade one into another. That's how I see it. To me upgrades are totally different stronger and more expensive creatures of the same group/family. When You upgrade computer do You take the parts out and improve them or do U put in different stronger newer parts  ?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 03, 2014 11:22 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 11:23, 03 Nov 2014.
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Caracal said:
What kind of nonsense is that?
Because fantasy games are well-known for their clear rationality and realism 
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Caracal
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posted November 03, 2014 11:25 AM |
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hehe in that case I have nothing more to say xD
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Storm-Giant
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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted November 03, 2014 11:31 AM |
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Blade percentage keeps getting higher and higher
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Darkem
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posted November 03, 2014 11:35 AM |
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Call me weirdo, but I like all of the lineups. Each of them have pros and cons, none is perfect, none is terrible.
I just don't like strider and two elves in the core.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted November 03, 2014 11:43 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 11:44, 03 Nov 2014.
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Lousy job, keeping me away from important internet discussions
Stevie said:
Are we really debating why they're called Faceless? Come on people.
No, we're debating why that is their only name. Wanna contribute?
War-overlord said:
No I was referring to Dwarves. But your Halfling point is very well made.
Except Tolkien was a linguist who rarely gave less than two names for each race.
Hobbits are called halflings by people other than themselves, although they seemingly tolerate this.
In games 'halfling' are prefered mainly because it's less infringing, or so I'm lead to believe.
For instance, Humans are called Atani by the Elves.
Another example are the mer races in Elder Scrolls, commonly refered to as elves.
Excuse me for wanting some fantasy in a fantasy game,
I guess I'm just not a proponent of mediocrity.
Anyway, back to voting on which lineup will be considered imbalanced upon the day of release.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted November 03, 2014 11:49 AM |
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Avirosb said:
Anyway, back to voting on which lineup will be considered imbalanced upon the day of release.
That doesn't matter. Since they will all be Imbalanced on the release.
Necro will be OP and all post-release the devs will struggle with nerfing Necro and buffing everything else to be able to withstand Necro, as is tradition. And much whining will ensue.
One other line-up will also be OP against everything that isn't Necro, since you cannot have only one OP faction.
This will cause people to complain that the beta was too short to properly balance the factions. And once everything is reasonably resolved, people will complain how Ubi dumbs everything down and how much better 3DO/NWC was for their lack of post-release development.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted November 03, 2014 11:58 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:03, 03 Nov 2014.
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Storm-Giant said:
Blade percentage keeps getting higher and higher
And people blame Vokial for being negative.
@War-Overlord : lol
EDIT : As usual I see voting results here quite differs from the official boards.
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Stevie
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posted November 03, 2014 12:02 PM |
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I hope that won't happen, but if it does I'll at least enjoy the drama. 
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Minion
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posted November 03, 2014 12:05 PM |
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Haha Necro will totally be OP in the release.
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SepSpring
Known Hero
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posted November 03, 2014 12:13 PM |
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Don't like the idea of a Strider at all and prefer Troglodyte as a neutral creature. Nightmare among Dungeon troops is absolutely OK for me, Lurker is present, so "The Blade from the Shadows" is my obvious choice.
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Storm-Giant
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posted November 03, 2014 12:19 PM |
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It wouldn't be a Heroes if Necro wasn't OP at the release
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Minion
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posted November 03, 2014 12:27 PM |
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I also dislike the construct on Dungeon, as I imagine Mages holding the monopoly to them. That being said if I were to design a construct for dungeon it would look something like this:
Something with blades at least, nice sharp shadowsteel blades.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted November 03, 2014 12:30 PM |
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 03, 2014 12:34 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 12:35, 03 Nov 2014.
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Only thing different in that picture is that it's not a construct at all.
That and not Purple.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted November 03, 2014 12:44 PM |
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So? I said that is the look I would be going for, something metallic with sharp blades.
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LRN
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 03, 2014 12:56 PM |
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Minion said:
So? I said that is the look I would be going for, something metallic with sharp blades.
The Shrike ?
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