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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 06:15 PM |
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You calling it 'expressing yourself' makes me lol. Writting in caps lock, making fun of the other options, spamming on the blog, fueling a fire that needs to be extinguished...
Come on dude, how old are you?
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 06:17 PM |
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Galaad said:
Dies Irae said: You are allowed to express yourself, but do it....differently.
So basically, you don't agree with the way I express myself, so you decide to change your vote which was the one you liked, just as a protest against my poor, insignificant, person lol
This sounds way more virtuous and righteous than what I do lol
I did say before, somewhere around here, that if people were to go on a spamming spree to campaign for one of the designs, I would go for something else. Yes, the Undead Sorcerer is a design I like (just like the other two), but now that I get to see the way it is being propagated....I'm like 'out with the snows and vote something else'. Which does not mean that I haven't seen other people shouting about as well.
It is a protest, you got that right. You can still convince me to return to my original vote, but do it in a constructive, well-argumented way. And I don't mind if the Undead Sorcerer wins, or the Mummy.
You call yourself poor and insignificant, I wouldn't go that far. You have been...present a lot on that blog and helped bring about changes, but there has to be a line somewhere. Okay, the necro-hate may have been justified, but now it should be enough. We were granted this vote, we have been heard. And now we are to choose WHAT WE WANT. Not what YOU want .
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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 06:24 PM |
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Galaad said:
The_Green_drag said: You calling it 'expressing yourself' makes me lol. Writting in caps lock, making fun of the other options, spamming on the blog, fueling a fire that needs to be extinguished...
Come on dude, how old are you?
Oh I'm such a bad guy, making fun of designs and concepts I consider dubious. What is hilarious is that it seems some people are offended by it.
Or are you already too old and grumpy for these passionates impulses?
im not personally offended by anything, I just figured I would speak up while we are on the topic. Can't I just "express myself" without you jumping on me and calling me old?
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 06:26 PM |
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Galaad said: Ok.
I have to soon go to the theater lol, but I will try to explain you how huge your misunderstanding is.
Although, knowing you love Heroes VI, I will really think it through before posting so give me some time.
My misunderstanding? Of what? The Lich-concept? The Priest?
The Undead Sorcerer looks a lot like its H5 counterpart which is a good thing continuity-wise, but that doesn't mean the other two aren't badass either (in my most humble and honest opinion, of course). The lich of H6, fleshy, different, was not a problem to me. I mean, so many hundreds of years ago they could have looked different, and only later turned skeletal for some reason. My first response when I saw it return in the original reveal wasn't immediately negative. However, seeing these new designs do spark in me the 'this is much better anyway'-feeling .
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 27, 2015 06:29 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 23:18, 27 Mar 2015.
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Dies_Irae said: My misunderstanding? Of what? The Lich-concept? The Priest?
No, your misunderstanding about you thinking I am the one trying to manipulate every one, but I see I already made you switch your vote to something you like lesser so I don't really know what to think anymore, I promise, this was not intentional!
The_Green_drag said: Come on dude, how old are you?
The_Green_drag said: Can't I just "express myself" without you jumping on me and calling me old?
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 06:33 PM |
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Galaad said:
Dies_Irae said: My misunderstanding? Of what? The Lich-concept? The Priest?
No, your misunderstanding about you thinking I'm trying to manipulate every one lol, but I see I already made you switch your vote to something you like lesser so I don't really know what to think anymore lol, I promise, this was not intentional!
If the Priest is a lesser choice, at least it's not by a long shot.
I mean, I was glad the website was down so I could spend a night thinking about it. I went for the Undead Sorcerer for its appearance, with staff and book, and overall familiarity. However, the Priest had grown on me too, but I could only choose one. I think they are close to equal rather than being 'lesser' or 'better'. Which is why I didn't go for the Mummy. Even though he's cool too, in my view he is definately a lesser one than the other two, although I wouldn't mind seeing him win. I just didn't vote for him.
That Priest needs a staff, though. That's one drawback and I hope he'll get one in the end.
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The_Green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 06:35 PM |
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Lol whatever dude continue your strange crusade. You can win this vote and every other vote from here on, it doesn't seem to help you liking this game any better.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 06:51 PM |
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Personally, I feel like Galaad is too self-righteous to give any solid arguments as to why his choice it the best option - he'll simply talk about how his preference is the only natural choice.
The_Green_drag said: Lol whatever dude continue your strange crusade. You can win this vote and every other vote from here on, it doesn't seem to help you liking this game any better.
Don't you know? It's our life's mission to ensure that everything in the game is exactly the way Galaad wants it, even if afterwards he'll hate it regardless.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 07:11 PM |
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Another thread derailed by Galaad anthics and moderation still doesnt do anything. Hmm
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 07:12 PM |
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GenyaArikado said: Another thread derailed by Galaad anthics and moderation still doesnt do anything. Hmm
I'd call it a 'minor disagreement'.
I guess we're over it now xD.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 07:39 PM |
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My two cents on this whole thing (to get away from the bickering)
I love the old factions because they are theme based. They seem to be going for this egyptain theme with necro and I like it. The TS has little pyramids and what not, we have a flying sphinx, and a mummy would have been a great addition. Improving the Egyptian theme with a lich-mummy hybrid seems like a better option. It also leaves room for new necro units in the future, assuming they add more elites and cores to pick from.
Reasons I did not pick the Sorcerer:
- only the face looks skeletal, looks more like a wraith from H3 with a hat and staff.
- Resembles the ghost/Banshee
- Still floating...what is the point of the magic carpet if all magic users can just float around?
Reasons I did not pick the Priest:
- Also floats
- Resembles the lower form of the abbot
- Doesn't seem to be undead
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted March 27, 2015 07:40 PM |
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Actually, the undead sorcerer looks more Egyptian than the ancient mummy
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 27, 2015 07:45 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
- only the face looks skeletal, looks more like a wraith from H3 with a hat and staff.
that...
sounds like my ideal Lich i don't see it in the sorcerer though.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 07:45 PM |
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Personally, I liked how commanding the mummy looked. Almost as if it was ordering its undead servants to rip its enemies apart. ...Now I can't help but imagine Blood Monster as his sidekick xD
That being said, I also like the death-mask and the outfit.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 07:47 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Reasons I did not pick the Sorcerer:
- only the face looks skeletal, looks more like a wraith from H3 with a hat and staff.
- Resembles the ghost/Banshee
- Still floating...what is the point of the magic carpet if all magic users can just float around?
Reasons I did not pick the Priest:
- Also floats
- Resembles the lower form of the abbot
- Doesn't seem to be undead
Marzhin said: Don't read too much into the posings. The artists was asked to make them look different in attire and pose, but that doesn't mean the final unit will float or point fingers ingame. Since it will be a brand new model all animations will have to be done from scratch anyway.
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The Young Traveler
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 27, 2015 07:49 PM |
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Sligneris said: Personally, I liked how commanding the mummy looked. Almost as if it was ordering its undead servants to rip its enemies apart. ...Now I can't help but imagine Blood Monster as his sidekick xD
That being said, I also like the death-mask and the outfit.
looks like Jason Vorhees as played by Disco stu if you ask me.
frikkin great
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 07:51 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Reasons I did not pick the Priest:
- Also floats
- Resembles the lower form of the abbot
- Doesn't seem to be undead
Not undead? Maybe you should take another look at the model's face. It looks quite skeletal to me, but it's partially covered.
The Mummy wouldn't have a Blood Monster as his sidekick, he would raise them by the masses and send them to do their master's bidding .
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 08:01 PM |
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Dies_Irae said: The Mummy wouldn't have a Blood Monster as his sidekick, he would raise them by the masses and send them to do their master's bidding .
Of course. Did you expect anything else?
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted March 27, 2015 08:01 PM |
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Stevie said:
The_Green_Drag said:
Reasons I did not pick the Sorcerer:
- Still floating...what is the point of the magic carpet if all magic users can just float around?
Reasons I did not pick the Priest:
- Also floats
Marzhin said: Don't read too much into the posings. The artists was asked to make them look different in attire and pose, but that doesn't mean the final unit will float or point fingers ingame. Since it will be a brand new model all animations will have to be done from scratch anyway.
This is definitely a good thing but I don't like that it doesn't have legs. Which is why I compared it to the wraith. Skeleton lich is not the same as a ghost/wraith lich. Even with a skeletal face.
I suppose it would look most similar to the h5 lich (if not floating), which I wasn't a fan of.
@Dies_Irae
I stand corrected, the face looks like a skull. But if that is the case, why cover it Still, the dark priest is my 2nd favorite.
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Dies_Irae
Supreme Hero
with the perfect plan
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posted March 27, 2015 08:06 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
@Dies_Irae
I stand corrected, the face looks like a skull. But if that is the case, why cover it Still, the dark priest is my 2nd favorite.
Covering faces is a fashion statement in Ashan around the time of H7 .
I guess the Priest thinks that his eyes are terrifying enough and that weak mortals don't need to see his entire face ...
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