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verriker
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posted March 26, 2015 09:02 PM |
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Edited by verriker at 21:03, 26 Mar 2015.
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Galaad said:
Marzhin said: Why not?
Just wondering, is he ashamed of his desiccated face to the point he feels the need of hiding it for no one else to see in the beautiful world of Ashan or something?
I agree, even a dessicated face or no face at all can be beautiful in its own unconventional way,
and any self-respecting Lich should be confident and take pride in his imposing appearance
you didn't see Sandro or Lord Haart or Moander or Gauldoth or Baron Von Tarkin try to hide their badass countenance (unless trying to trick people),
hell even the grotesque Orson and Vladimir in Heroes 5, who probably would have done us all a favour to consider wearing masks, couldn't be bothered lol
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Minastir
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posted March 26, 2015 09:05 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Minastir said: Marzhin can I ask You what did you vote for vampire and lich ? Just out of curiosity
Priest of Death for Lich and Blood Monster for Vampire.
Thanks The good thing about the lich is that every new design is better than the previous one, so ther's no bad choice.
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Sligneris
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posted March 26, 2015 09:06 PM |
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verriker said: hell even the grotesque Orson and Vladimir in Heroes 5, who probably would have done us all a favour to consider wearing masks, couldn't be bothered lol
Naadir from Heroes V is the only one wearing a mask, ironically so, considering that he looks like he has a human face underneath it.
Raven, on the other hand, provided us with undead fanservice:
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LizardWarrior
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posted March 26, 2015 09:06 PM |
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Stevie
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posted March 26, 2015 09:09 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 21:10, 26 Mar 2015.
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Marzhin said:
Minastir said: Marzhin can I ask You what did you vote for vampire and lich ? Just out of curiosity
Priest of Death for Lich and Blood Monster for Vampire.
Oh, really now. I saw something else.
(still have a page open from before you changed your vampire vote)
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Sligneris
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posted March 26, 2015 09:11 PM |
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Stevie said: Oh, really now. I saw something else.
(still have a page open from before you changed your vampire vote)
What were his votes before?
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Stevie
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posted March 26, 2015 09:12 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 21:33, 26 Mar 2015.
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You'll see soon enough, I gave Galaad a screenshot
Edit: Or.. not? Well anyway, Marzhin voted the Vampire Knight at first, then he changed it to the Blood Monster right after he was asked about it.
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted March 26, 2015 09:40 PM |
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LizardWarrior said: But why all vampires look like twilight wannabees?
That's easy. It's because, just like in Twilight they aren't realy vampires. It's only a name, but every other characteristic is missing.
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verriker
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posted March 26, 2015 09:47 PM |
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Stevie said: Edit: Or.. not? Well anyway, Marzhin voted the Vampire Knight at first, then he changed it to the Blood Monster right after he was asked about it.
see kids, now that's how we can use our powers of peer pressure for a good cause lol
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Marzhin
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posted March 26, 2015 09:47 PM |
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Stevie said: Edit: Or.. not? Well anyway, Marzhin voted the Vampire Knight at first, then he changed it to the Blood Monster right after he was asked about it.
Well the original vote was done to test if the votes were working, I had just forgotten to update it.
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Sligneris
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posted March 26, 2015 09:50 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said: That's easy. It's because, just like in Twilight they aren't realy vampires. It's only a name, but every other characteristic is missing.
Eternal youth - check
Thirst for blood - check
Cold body - check
No heartbeat - check
These traits are what makes a vampire, not some childish gimmicks, like fear of garlic or cross symbols. So I see no validation in your argument.
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Marzhin
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posted March 26, 2015 09:52 PM |
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Also, if Bram Stoker's original Dracula novel, while sunlight weakens the titular character a little bit, it doesn't kill him. That came later, from the movies I think.
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Stormcaller
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posted March 26, 2015 10:09 PM |
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Went for Undead Sorcerer. Seems like a safe bet. Albeit It would be nice if someone coloured them somewhat, cause it may be a trap.
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Sligneris
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posted March 26, 2015 10:12 PM |
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I'm going to safely bet that Priest of Death would wear black robes, while Mummy looks like it'd be rotting, dark green.
Sorcerer? Might use necro!purple, blue and green, I can't tell.
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LizardWarrior
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posted March 26, 2015 10:14 PM |
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All may use purple/blue/green, ALL h7 spiderpolis units use these colors
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Zombi_Wizzard
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posted March 26, 2015 10:14 PM |
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Cold body, No hartbeat, and thirst for blood, can all be also atributed to a zombie. I have read original Dracula, and also Carmila, that came before that. I am aware, that most of other stuff was added later, as vampire genre developed in popularity... and in almost no case all of these atributes appear at once. But atleast some of them do. Stakes and fear of sun are almost always present, as well as bat transformation, or other kind of morphing ... like to more monstrous form.
As far as appearence goes. Vampire is supposed to be indistingushable from normal human ... almost. One of his basic abilities is that he or she blends into society, specialy upper classes. In Dracula, people around the count don't realize he's a vampire. He's a bit odd, but that's it. A lot of rich people are realy weird. Some even like spiders.
And that's the core issue I suppose. Spiders and Vampires have realy nothing in common.
So to recap. A proper Vampire on battlefield would look like a dark knight, that has maybe ability to turn into bat, OR have 2 forms. A human aristocrat form, that is weak ... maybe wields a rapier, and bestial form that can do lots of damage and flys.
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verriker
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posted March 26, 2015 10:14 PM |
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Sligneris said: These traits are what makes a vampire, not some childish gimmicks, like fear of garlic or cross symbols. So I see no validation in your argument.
well come on now, it's very very subjective what makes a vampire, there are tens and tens of contradictory (and sometimes self-contradictory) mythological influences behind them,
however I am sure the last thing most people think of when they hear "vampire" is a guy who drank spider venom, turned into a lich and then magically aged backwards to regrow all his flesh lol
the Sumerian/Mesopotamian blood drinkers were actually pretty cool though, so if they would borrow a bit more from those source legends instead of making up this weird ass backstory of their own fixated on spiders (and Arthas, minor deity of the Azerothian culture in North American mythology lol), that wouldn't be bad
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Storm-Giant
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posted March 26, 2015 10:19 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said: He's a bit odd, but that's it. A lot of rich people are realy weird. Some even like spiders.
I see what you did there
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Sligneris
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posted March 26, 2015 11:00 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Zombi_Wizzard said: He's a bit odd, but that's it. A lot of rich people are realy weird. Some even like spiders.
I see what you did there
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Stormcaller
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posted March 26, 2015 11:01 PM |
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